MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Vecna]

Also @Becca iyo is there anyone you think I can eliminate from my list of 7 possible scum? Anyone I sould have included and haven't?

Well, we also have to keep in mind there might be a scum convincingly hiding in the town core. I dont think we can convincingly say that everyone that was on the right side of that wagon is automatically ruled out.

[BobMcBob]

Reads part 1! (Please note due to time constraints that I have not read most of these people in-depth. More reads will be delivered later)
Flash - you'll never believe it, but I'm really liking the way flash looks at the moment. Yeah good on me for that read, he's town, he's probably gonna die, nuff said.
Emc - also unsurprisingly looks pretty good. I mean sure he lurked a bit but also he seemed fairly genuine and I was getting solid vibes, although nothing stood out. Also got pushed real hard by chaqa which looks pretty good I think.
Rdrivera - I mean, rdr is a player who exists. Really not feeling much either way here, at least not from my somewhat shallow reading.
Seth - um, holy heck is this guy seriously new? He's already better than me. As far as I could see he was doing some really good analysis and stuff, looks like a super good guy to have around. I didn't think he felt scared or forced or anything either so I'm really digging this guy. Welcome aboard Seth!
Worcej - man I love sassy worcej. His whole day two thing is exactly what I expect and like to see from him. I'm not sure I've ever played with scum worcej (and if I have I can't recall off the top of my head) but this is behaviour I associate with town worcej, so he's good with me. Also it's just hilarious to watch.

[Vecna]

Can you point us to any of his day2 posts that you thought were sassy? Or town indicative?

[BobMcBob]

Can you point us to any of his day2 posts that you thought were sassy? Or town indicative?

Perhaps I used the wrong word there, but I meant all those posts where he's just kinda in people's faces or going "go on, lynch me, it won't get you anywhere". Perhaps asshole worcej (as he puts it) was a better term. And I find this behaviour from worcej town indicative in and of itself, because, like I said, that's the sort of town behaviour I associate with home from past games. Did you really need that extra degree of clarification?

[bo_sox48]

The following slots have unfavourable voting both days

Bob
Bo
ghug
Ham
Worcej

What is your definition of unfavorable?

[damo666]

The following slots have unfavourable voting both days

Bob
Bo
ghug
Ham
Worcej

What is your definition of unfavorable?

Not town friendly

Ghug and worcej day 2 not so bad I guess.

[Vecna]

Can you point us to any of his day2 posts that you thought were sassy? Or town indicative?

Perhaps I used the wrong word there, but I meant all those posts where he's just kinda in people's faces or going "go on, lynch me, it won't get you anywhere". Perhaps asshole worcej (as he puts it) was a better term. And I find this behaviour from worcej town indicative in and of itself, because, like I said, that's the sort of town behaviour I associate with home from past games. Did you really need that extra degree of clarification?

Ehm, yeah?

One would think if you felt you had good reasons to have an opposing read to most people you'd go that extra mile to convince them theyre wrong, no?

Instead you seem almost agitated to be asked about it, while your original framing clearly wasnt very clear?

[damo666]

Also @Becca iyo is there anyone you think I can eliminate from my list of 7 possible scum? Anyone I sould have included and haven't?

Why you didn't include Fox and Bozo?

They are both towny enough to warrant exclusion.

I might not have all 4 in that 7 but doubt less than 3.

[Vecna]

Its very possible the 3P is among the very towny people as well though, since that role is effectively town in its scum hunting capabilities, and is actively incentivized to do so

[bo_sox48]

Also @Becca iyo is there anyone you think I can eliminate from my list of 7 possible scum? Anyone I sould have included and haven't?

Why you didn't include Fox and Bozo?

They are both towny enough to warrant exclusion.

I might not have all 4 in that 7 but doubt less than 3.

This is some hilariously subjective conversation disguised as honest and objective analysis

[BobMcBob]

Can you point us to any of his day2 posts that you thought were sassy? Or town indicative?

Perhaps I used the wrong word there, but I meant all those posts where he's just kinda in people's faces or going "go on, lynch me, it won't get you anywhere". Perhaps asshole worcej (as he puts it) was a better term. And I find this behaviour from worcej town indicative in and of itself, because, like I said, that's the sort of town behaviour I associate with home from past games. Did you really need that extra degree of clarification?

Ehm, yeah?

One would think if you felt you had good reasons to have an opposing read to most people you'd go that extra mile to convince them theyre wrong, no?

Instead you seem almost agitated to be asked about it, while your original framing clearly wasnt very clear?

I thought I was pretty clear. Like literally all you had to do was look at worjec's day 2 and legit half his posts or more were the kind of thing I was talking about. Not sure how you can miss that. I don't even know how most people are reading him, from what I saw I thought people were backing off toward the end of the day. And like I said I don't know how scum worcej plays, so I'm really not fully qualified in that regard. You asked what felt like a stupid question which literally required nothing but restating on my part, so of course I approached it cynically. That's what I do.

[Durga]

Anyways, I propose we fully make the assumption that were playing against the witch, and play as such. I have a feeling were going to dumpster the mafia, but might have an uphill battle in finding the 3p before it is too late. 2 Pr's are dead (sorry flash), so if were facing the witch itll be sort of a race to find them before the remaining 4 PR's are revealed.

The PR's that might die if using their role: Complete holster for now, unless you really feel that you'll be up for lynch tomorrow due to your voting record/play today.

The other 2: Just keep hidden and gather results. No outing it for a while, please.

Two? What did I miss

[Durga]

Its very possible the 3P is among the very towny people as well though, since that role is effectively town in its scum hunting capabilities, and is actively incentivized to do so

Absolutely. Mafia is also hunting for 3p so they are also doing some scum searching

[Durga]

Not me this time

Durga, if you're still around can you read Worcej's end of day 2? Is that as bad as it looks?

:)

Why did you respond like this Vecna?

Also summit, I remember feeling yikes about him but I'll read it later

[flash2015]

Just patiently waiting my ascension to the God thread...

[BobMcBob]

Bozo - a big ol' meh for me. I can't find anything in his day 2 that warrants much town or scum on him. (I'm not looking at D1 to save time, he's high on my D1 priority list if I get time after finishing all my other reads) Some of his questioning I did find slightly odd but bozo will be bozo, I think it's pretty much NAI.

Foxcastle - first thing I notice here that I missed somehow while reading worcej is that worcej only came in and went asshole mode after FoxC pointed out that he wasn't doing it. Which means worcej can get some town points taken off, but not too many. FoxC's day 2 was mostly fine, jumped a lot back and forth between votes. I didn't like his Prado "push" and he was on flash or up against worcej a lot. I'd put him as a slight scumlean I guess, there were just a couple moments that felt slightly off.

[damo666]

Its very possible the 3P is among the very towny people as well though, since that role is effectively town in its scum hunting capabilities, and is actively incentivized to do so

Yes, this is true

[damo666]

Why you didn't include Fox and Bozo?

They are both towny enough to warrant exclusion.

I might not have all 4 in that 7 but doubt less than 3.

This is some hilariously subjective conversation disguised as honest and objective analysis

yawn

[bo_sox48]

They are both towny enough to warrant exclusion.

I might not have all 4 in that 7 but doubt less than 3.

This is some hilariously subjective conversation disguised as honest and objective analysis

yawn

If by that you mean I quoted the wrong post, you’d be right. Let me try again.

[bo_sox48]

The following slots have unfavourable voting both days

Bob
Bo
ghug
Ham
Worcej

What is your definition of unfavorable?

Not town friendly

Ghug and worcej day 2 not so bad I guess.

This is some hilariously subjective conversation disguised as honest and objective analysis