MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2041 Post by flash2015 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:15 pm

Durga wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:06 pm
flash2015 wrote:
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Durga wrote:
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What should we do about the VP being outted? Is there any benefit to keeping specifics hidden?
I think it is still useful to hide whether it is an investigative or protective role.
Why? Can anything save you from a roleblock or kill?
If they do both to me, yes, I am screwed.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2042 Post by flash2015 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:21 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:13 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:05 pm
Durga wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:50 pm
What should we do about the VP being outted? Is there any benefit to keeping specifics hidden?
I think it is still useful to hide whether it is an investigative or protective role.
Your first indication of a PR role was made with 5 min to go. If the witch is in the game it is possible you have lost control of the power.
Bonus!

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2043 Post by flash2015 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:25 pm

It is frustrating as I was hoping to lay low and perhaps stay alive into the end game, but it is what it is.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2044 Post by summit_fever » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:28 pm

flash2015 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:25 pm
It is frustrating as I was hoping to lay low and perhaps stay alive into the end game, but it is what it is.
Easy to criticise but that was a chaotic end of day, and obviously being too late would be far worse than being too early.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2045 Post by flash2015 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:31 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:28 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:25 pm
It is frustrating as I was hoping to lay low and perhaps stay alive into the end game, but it is what it is.
Easy to criticise but that was a chaotic end of day, and obviously being too late would be far worse than being too early.
I looked at the bot and saw 6-5 with Chaqa still to move. With only 3 minutes to go, I thought I had to make sure I didn't get killed. I wish I had seen that another vote switch to Chaqa.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2046 Post by summit_fever » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:38 pm

flash2015 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:21 pm
summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:13 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:05 pm


I think it is still useful to hide whether it is an investigative or protective role.
Your first indication of a PR role was made with 5 min to go. If the witch is in the game it is possible you have lost control of the power.
Bonus!
On the plus side if the warlock is in the game I doubt they wet their beak on that day.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2047 Post by flash2015 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:40 pm

I will be upset summit if you are scum and I didn't vote for you at least once...

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2048 Post by summit_fever » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:41 pm

flash2015 wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:40 pm
I will be upset summit if you are scum and I didn't vote for you at least once...
I should have taken these rolls to the craps table.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2049 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:54 pm

TrPrado wrote:
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Foxcastle wrote:
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But like why?
He learned something from when I bussed EMC.
What does that mean?
A few games ago, I was scum with EMC and pushed his policy wagon policy wagon to completion on D1. I can see Rdr doing that to Sarah.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2050 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:55 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:54 pm
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Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:03 pm
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He learned something from when I bussed EMC.
What does that mean?
A few games ago, I was scum with EMC and pushed his policy wagon policy wagon to completion on D1. I can see Rdr doing that to Sarah.
If I have rolled scum with her I could totally do this, but it wasn't the case and I didn't even push a policy wagon.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2051 Post by summit_fever » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm

If 3P is a witch it wouldn't surprise me if he's the role. Very late move to Chaqa. No posts from 10 min to 1 min to go. Waiting for claims?

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2052 Post by summit_fever » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
If 3P is a witch it wouldn't surprise me if he's the role. Very late move to Chaqa. No posts from 10 min to 1 min to go. Waiting for claims?
Referring to Rdrivera

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2053 Post by Durga » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
If 3P is a witch it wouldn't surprise me if he's the role. Very late move to Chaqa. No posts from 10 min to 1 min to go. Waiting for claims?
Who? What?

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2054 Post by Durga » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:07 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
If 3P is a witch it wouldn't surprise me if he's the role. Very late move to Chaqa. No posts from 10 min to 1 min to go. Waiting for claims?
Referring to Rdrivera
Nvm

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2055 Post by summit_fever » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:07 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
If 3P is a witch it wouldn't surprise me if he's the role. Very late move to Chaqa. No posts from 10 min to 1 min to go. Waiting for claims?
Referring to Rdrivera
His day 1 end was pretty lame too. But I don't read him as mafia scummy, that's for sure.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2056 Post by BobMcBob » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:24 pm

Well that was a great turnout! Even when I went to bed I was feeling hopeful, and I was right! And chaqa... was chaqa. That's a very Chaqa thing to do. I'm a little annoyed that flash was outed, as we all are, but I can see where he's coming from, he was in a tough position at the end there and wanted to ensure his safety. And I have no clue why the heck yoyo came back, as is the case for the GMs apparently. I am the officially sanctioned player though, so ignore him and devote all your attention to me. When I'm active that is, I'll be out for a large chunk of the day and don't really be active again until about the same time I subbed yesterday.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2057 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:26 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:07 pm
summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
summit_fever wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:06 pm
If 3P is a witch it wouldn't surprise me if he's the role. Very late move to Chaqa. No posts from 10 min to 1 min to go. Waiting for claims?
Referring to Rdrivera
His day 1 end was pretty lame too. But I don't read him as mafia scummy, that's for sure.
Summit, I told, more then once, that EOD is on the middle of my return from work to home. Sometimes I can wait a bit at work, sometimes I can't.
I even told I won't be online at EOD, but decided to stop at a gas station to be on at EOD. I voted Chaqa when I saw the claim.
If you don't believe me, fine, but I already told this in other games and it's annoying when people use this to scumread me.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2058 Post by Durga » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:28 pm

Wait but town rdr always yells at me at least once and you haven't yelled at me yet rdr sooooo

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2059 Post by seth24c » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:37 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:34 pm
bo_sox48 wrote:
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Chaqa wrote:
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My thinking is, usually Day 1 that involves TvT has a lot of people (typically scum) on one-off wagons or very minor wagons. Day 1 with such a close flip that was town and so many wagons makes me really think there was a scum up on the block, and if that's the case, EMC, Damo, and Yoyo/Bob make the most sense.

So, that said, the Yoyo/Bob wagon probably is fine too, and I'd vote for any of those three, and probably no one else. The only thing going against this theory is the HR kill, which I would expect someone from a wagon that isn't the main one to be killed (to protect my theorized scum in EMC/Damo/YoyoBob), but HR could just be a fearkill type situation.
This does not answer my question in the slightest. Please answer my question.

Furthermore, if day 1 is town v town, why would the second leading wagon be someone you're willing to vote for today?

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Read my post. I was saying typically TvT Day 1 have lots of singleton voters, but since we didn't have that, I suspect scum was on the block and therefore the normal ones who are singletons (scum) were not.

I'm not sure what sort of answer you were expecting. I'm not going to be able to or motivated to re-read most of day 1, so better to just get summaries and work from there. I think, barring scumslips, etc., ignoring most things people say in favor of vote analysis is better anyway.
Another post to reference from chaqa about the day 1 wagons.

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Re: MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

#2060 Post by seth24c » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:40 pm

Wow after reading through chaqa was really out to get emc. Is there bad blood from previous games or what lol.

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