MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[summit_fever]

Yeah I'm actually pretty comfortable with this vote

I know i'm being lazy af by asking you this but @summit do you remember if HB voted for anyone d1 in his scum game?

You picked a hell of a career if you don't like perusing previous games on the bot :)

[Chaqa]

Why in the hell would we use day 2 to try and get more info out of day 1, and why would you ask this instead of seeing if you can't find reason to scumread one of the other wagons from day 1?

My thinking is, usually Day 1 that involves TvT has a lot of people (typically scum) on one-off wagons or very minor wagons. Day 1 with such a close flip that was town and so many wagons makes me really think there was a scum up on the block, and if that's the case, EMC, Damo, and Yoyo/Bob make the most sense.

So, that said, the Yoyo/Bob wagon probably is fine too, and I'd vote for any of those three, and probably no one else. The only thing going against this theory is the HR kill, which I would expect someone from a wagon that isn't the main one to be killed (to protect my theorized scum in EMC/Damo/YoyoBob), but HR could just be a fearkill type situation.

This does not answer my question in the slightest. Please answer my question.

Furthermore, if day 1 is town v town, why would the second leading wagon be someone you're willing to vote for today?

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Read my post. I was saying typically TvT Day 1 have lots of singleton voters, but since we didn't have that, I suspect scum was on the block and therefore the normal ones who are singletons (scum) were not.

I'm not sure what sort of answer you were expecting. I'm not going to be able to or motivated to re-read most of day 1, so better to just get summaries and work from there. I think, barring scumslips, etc., ignoring most things people say in favor of vote analysis is better anyway.

[Vecna]

You were in both of those minigames, a GM mistake caused the abandonment of M1012 and Brian was town in M1013, M57, M1014.

thanks

I don't see anything too scummy about HB, but in the last games he was town then he was obviously town at some point and on this game this didn't happen.

I did notice a bit of a jump in playstyle when he started playing in the large games as opposed to the mini's. On the surface his play here seems somewhat similair to M57 (he also was a bit more held back there and not really jumping to conclusions and his own deductions as fast as in the mini's).

Im not sure if what were seeing is a continuation of that trend, but as Summit noticed, in that scum game he also did the weird statements that he's been doing a bunch here.

[Chaqa]

I'm online until around 4:15 my time (about 2 hours from now) and then I have to get ready for and leave for a date, so I'll try to keep an eye on things as I wrap up work.

I'm not super crazy about the flash wagon, but Hamilton seems like a reasonable option, though I'd prefer Bob, damo, or EMC.

Wear a mask

Not sure if COVID reference or calling me ugly. :D

[Chaqa]

Starting a 10th wagon

##vote HamB

You know what, I think I will ##vote hamilton

He's been somewhat less aggresive than I recall his town game being, let's see if prodding will do anything.

This is the most suspicious post all game.

[summit_fever]

Yeah I'm actually pretty comfortable with this vote

I know i'm being lazy af by asking you this but @summit do you remember if HB voted for anyone d1 in his scum game?

You picked a hell of a career if you don't like perusing previous games on the bot :)

He voted Bozo and stuck to it. His seth vote seemed sticky to me as well. M1014 Brian seemed to grow more comfortable with throwing his vote around as town.

[Vecna]

Yeah I'm actually pretty comfortable with this vote

I know i'm being lazy af by asking you this but @summit do you remember if HB voted for anyone d1 in his scum game?

He did one vote there, with 8 hours to go till deadline, and never changed it.

[Durga]

thanks

I don't see anything too scummy about HB, but in the last games he was town then he was obviously town at some point and on this game this didn't happen.

I did notice a bit of a jump in playstyle when he started playing in the large games as opposed to the mini's. On the surface his play here seems somewhat similair to M57 (he also was a bit more held back there and not really jumping to conclusions and his own deductions as fast as in the mini's).

Im not sure if what were seeing is a continuation of that trend, but as Summit noticed, in that scum game he also did the weird statements that he's been doing a bunch here.

Oh interesting, yeah, I wasn't following the large game so I don't know what he was like there.

Did he vote tho? Why is he not voting now

[Vecna]

wait, but in that game, wasnt there a scum that had not received their role pm?

[Durga]

wait, but in that game, wasnt there a scum that had not received their role pm?

Yeah it was jamiet

[dargorygel]

VOTING COUNTING 2.10
Flash2015 (5) vecna, bo, bob, foxy, bozo
Hamilton Brian (5) damo, ghug, durga, emc, summit
BobMcBob (2) rdr, prado
Summit_fever (1) worcej
e.m.c^42 (1) chaqa
Vecna (1) flash
Ghug (1) seth
Unvote (1) HB

Right now, no one looks like a witch
ALL have voted
ALL have posted

2 hours and 21 minutes remain in this day, today.

[flash2015]

You really are characterizing my reasoning in a way that I do not approve of.

Sorry, why are you voting flash then?

I believe he's randomly just quoting stuff from a stretch of page 60-64, to appear to be participating and being active. There is no coherence, just to show us he is "caught up".

In those few posts he first sheeps Fox, saying he can go along with the meta wagon. Then the next post he asks Worcej for advice. Then the next post he sheeps Worcej's overdefensive attack on me.

He votes. He vanishes. But not before letting us know he is fully caught up.

But go ahead. Quiz him on stuff that happened this game. See if he actually has coherent reads. Prove me wrong if im so wrong, dont just judge the wagon because its "on a lurker". The lowest posters always have scum in them

I didn't ask anyone for advice...and I was following what you yourself had done in the past when you caught up (respond to posts as you read). I waited around for responses...not seeing any I went back to work.

Apart from me, who are your scumreads?

[flash2015]

Sorry, why are you voting flash then?

I believe he's randomly just quoting stuff from a stretch of page 60-64, to appear to be participating and being active. There is no coherence, just to show us he is "caught up".

In those few posts he first sheeps Fox, saying he can go along with the meta wagon. Then the next post he asks Worcej for advice. Then the next post he sheeps Worcej's overdefensive attack on me.

He votes. He vanishes. But not before letting us know he is fully caught up.

But go ahead. Quiz him on stuff that happened this game. See if he actually has coherent reads. Prove me wrong if im so wrong, dont just judge the wagon because its "on a lurker". The lowest posters always have scum in them

This is better. All I remembered was you saying he only posted 4 times.

@flash - thoughts on this?

Gave my thoughts above.

[Vecna]

wait, but in that game, wasnt there a scum that had not received their role pm?

never mind, that was jamiet, HB did have it

[rdrivera2005]

I agree that Yoyo's wagon looks sketchy...

Who do you think is scum in Yoyo wagon?

It feels wrong voting for someone that hasn't even appeared at all today. Yoyo/Chaqa is still your top scumread?

Do you mean Yoyo/Bob? I don't know, I did a re-read on Yoyo and it wasn't as bad as I remembered. But I still would not mind flipping this slot or HB. And honestly flipping you doesn't seems too bad considering how you are not really paying attention to the game.

Chaqa subbed Sarah if I remember well and didn't do shit yet.

[flash2015]

And now that the wagon of him gathers steam he magically appears again, and does the same "look im catching up thing".

And apparently im flailing just to get mislynches.

You are grasping at straws to justify a wagon which has no reason for existing.

[rdrivera2005]

I agree that Yoyo's wagon looks sketchy...

Who do you think is scum in Yoyo wagon?

It feels wrong voting for someone that hasn't even appeared at all today. Yoyo/Chaqa is still your top scumread?

And why you didn't answer my question?

[summit_fever]

wait, but in that game, wasnt there a scum that had not received their role pm?

Yeah, it's tainted because he would have been observing a town Jamie while believing Jamie was playing his scum game.

[Durga]

And now that the wagon of him gathers steam he magically appears again, and does the same "look im catching up thing".

And apparently im flailing just to get mislynches.

You are grasping at straws to justify a wagon which has no reason for existing.

He really isn't flash. Why are you just trying to trigger him specifically?

[Vecna]

Starting a 10th wagon

##vote HamB

You know what, I think I will ##vote hamilton

He's been somewhat less aggresive than I recall his town game being, let's see if prodding will do anything.

This is the most suspicious post all game.

I actually thought EMC's post calling you out was pretty pretty good