MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[summit_fever]

I need to read some more of Brian but I'm pretty comfortable with this vote.
Trying to scumread seth seems reasonable. Who could predict seth would end up looking obvtown to several people. How would scum!Brian react to that?

[Vecna]

The context was a response to Vecna's question.

Would it kill you to explain what part you're talking about?

Vecna said I was scum reading him for something he did not do, and I was giving examples of the thing I said he did, which was going after Bismarck voters N1.

So youre thinking I -only- went after bismarck voters?

I was just doing my usual catchup and questioning whatever i came across that needed it. Like, you think I was sitting there with a notebook singling out the people that voted Bismarck?

I really dont know what curious type of logic goes on in your head at times. I bet itd be fun to do some recreative drugs with you.

[flash2015]

This can’t be scum emc. No way he’s this good

I would like to think I'm this good, but everyone else would say otherwise ;p

You are quite good, and you love to butter people up to make them feel good about themselves. Its working on Durga already

E.m.c hasn't shown anything yet indicating he is town.

[bozotheclown]

Would it kill you to explain what part you're talking about?

Vecna said I was scum reading him for something he did not do, and I was giving examples of the thing I said he did, which was going after Bismarck voters N1.

So youre thinking I -only- went after bismarck voters?

I was just doing my usual catchup and questioning whatever i came across that needed it. Like, you think I was sitting there with a notebook singling out the people that voted Bismarck?

I really dont know what curious type of logic goes on in your head at times. I bet itd be fun to do some recreative drugs with you.

I also never said you were only going after Bismarck voters.

[flash2015]

Woohoo! Caught up.

And here he claims he is caught up, yet all he has done is responded a little bit to the last 3 pages of the game with very vapid thoughts.

Claims im latching on to easy votes (not realizing the timing of my vote I bet), and then does it himself. Then does it again with the Worcej statement.

Flash is just trying to fly under the radar by agreeing a bunch with people

Also no other participating whatsoever since. 4 posts and a vote.

##vote Flash

Here you go looking for another easy mis-kill.

[Vecna]

I need to read some more of Brian but I'm pretty comfortable with this vote.
Trying to scumread seth seems reasonable. Who could predict seth would end up looking obvtown to several people. How would scum!Brian react to that?

Since you've been doing the digging already, do you happen to know which games he participated in? Or at least one of his towngames?

[Chaqa]

@Fox - summary of Flash case?

Lurking, not contributing, making easy votes with little thought or explanation.

I mean... Flash is usually a relative lurker, is he not? This would be like saying EMC is scummy for not voting in the first day.

[bozotheclown]

Something doesn't stand well here. 3rd vote on the wagon, then it's the lead.

##unvote

You are the one who put flash's wagon in the lead, what has changed?

Just contrasting my original read of flash to re-reading Bob's vote. Don't like it.

Will you vote for flash to save yourself?

[flash2015]

And here he claims he is caught up, yet all he has done is responded a little bit to the last 3 pages of the game with very vapid thoughts.

Claims im latching on to easy votes (not realizing the timing of my vote I bet), and then does it himself. Then does it again with the Worcej statement.

Flash is just trying to fly under the radar by agreeing a bunch with people

Also no other participating whatsoever since. 4 posts and a vote.

##vote Flash

I’m down for some fresh blood, ##VOTE flash

So no actual reasoning too?

[summit_fever]

I need to read some more of Brian but I'm pretty comfortable with this vote.
Trying to scumread seth seems reasonable. Who could predict seth would end up looking obvtown to several people. How would scum!Brian react to that?

Since you've been doing the digging already, do you happen to know which games he participated in? Or at least one of his towngames?

You were in both of those minigames, a GM mistake caused the abandonment of M1012 and Brian was town in M1013, M57, M1014.

[Vecna]

Vecna said I was scum reading him for something he did not do, and I was giving examples of the thing I said he did, which was going after Bismarck voters N1.

So youre thinking I -only- went after bismarck voters?

I was just doing my usual catchup and questioning whatever i came across that needed it. Like, you think I was sitting there with a notebook singling out the people that voted Bismarck?

I really dont know what curious type of logic goes on in your head at times. I bet itd be fun to do some recreative drugs with you.

I also never said you were only going after Bismarck voters.

So then what is scummy about making comments about people that just also happened to be voting Bismarck? Because I really really dont understand your reasoning, but apparently its important enough to you to keep repeating it.

[flash2015]

Oh hi Bob, welcome. Please participate more so I can get a good read on you.

I'm not opposed to a flash wagon either. I know it's shitty to keep going after low posters but it's so much easier to hide as scum when you're just not posting.

I'd rather flush out Flash, given that we can surmise that Yoyo's absence wasn't intentional since he had to be subbed out. Yoyo might still have been scum, but let's give Bob a day or two to talk.

I am here now. I have decided to try to read in batches more so I can manage my time better on this and don't forget context.

[Durga]

I need to read some more of Brian but I'm pretty comfortable with this vote.
Trying to scumread seth seems reasonable. Who could predict seth would end up looking obvtown to several people. How would scum!Brian react to that?

Since you've been doing the digging already, do you happen to know which games he participated in? Or at least one of his towngames?

You were in both of those minigames, a GM mistake caused the abandonment of M1012 and Brian was town in M1013, M57, M1014.

Wait Vecna, do you not remember this?

[Chaqa]

Yoyo hasn't posted today and just got replaced. His replacement should either get lynched because he's scummy today or he should not get lynched.

Why in the hell would we use day 2 to try and get more info out of day 1, and why would you ask this instead of seeing if you can't find reason to scumread one of the other wagons from day 1?

My thinking is, usually Day 1 that involves TvT has a lot of people (typically scum) on one-off wagons or very minor wagons. Day 1 with such a close flip that was town and so many wagons makes me really think there was a scum up on the block, and if that's the case, EMC, Damo, and Yoyo/Bob make the most sense.

So, that said, the Yoyo/Bob wagon probably is fine too, and I'd vote for any of those three, and probably no one else. The only thing going against this theory is the HR kill, which I would expect someone from a wagon that isn't the main one to be killed (to protect my theorized scum in EMC/Damo/YoyoBob), but HR could just be a fearkill type situation.

Chaqa, my friend, did you sub in as scum this time? Lol. This post reads kind of...bleh, is it just me?

I was thinking the same about you.

[Vecna]

I need to read some more of Brian but I'm pretty comfortable with this vote.
Trying to scumread seth seems reasonable. Who could predict seth would end up looking obvtown to several people. How would scum!Brian react to that?

Since you've been doing the digging already, do you happen to know which games he participated in? Or at least one of his towngames?

You were in both of those minigames, a GM mistake caused the abandonment of M1012 and Brian was town in M1013, M57, M1014.

thanks

[Vecna]

Since you've been doing the digging already, do you happen to know which games he participated in? Or at least one of his towngames?

You were in both of those minigames, a GM mistake caused the abandonment of M1012 and Brian was town in M1013, M57, M1014.

Wait Vecna, do you not remember this?

The actual numbers of the games in which brian hamilton played? How would I remember that lol, im not an excel sheet.

[flash2015]

This 100%

And I can't shake the feeling that yoyo is scum based on his d1 and his decision to quit the game.

Is there a precedent? Has he done this before...or given any indication in the past that he doesn't like playing scum?

[flash2015]

Starting a 10th wagon

##vote HamB

Because?

[bozotheclown]

So youre thinking I -only- went after bismarck voters?

I was just doing my usual catchup and questioning whatever i came across that needed it. Like, you think I was sitting there with a notebook singling out the people that voted Bismarck?

I really dont know what curious type of logic goes on in your head at times. I bet itd be fun to do some recreative drugs with you.

I also never said you were only going after Bismarck voters.

So then what is scummy about making comments about people that just also happened to be voting Bismarck? Because I really really dont understand your reasoning, but apparently its important enough to you to keep repeating it.

My point was that you were voting for BunnyGo, BunnyGo flipped town, and you seemed to immediately find reasons to scum read those voting for Bismarck, perhaps as a defense of voting for BunnyGo over Bismarck.

[Chaqa]

I'm online until around 4:15 my time (about 2 hours from now) and then I have to get ready for and leave for a date, so I'll try to keep an eye on things as I wrap up work.

I'm not super crazy about the flash wagon, but Hamilton seems like a reasonable option, though I'd prefer Bob, damo, or EMC.