MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[bozotheclown]

So your case is I am OMGUS'ing summit?

That, and the fact that you never mentioned summit before so strongly agreeing with TrPrado's scum read of him, especially since TrPrado's reason for voting for summit was for things summit specifically did to TrPrado, like not responding to his questions.

Now replying from where I left off last.

Strongly agree? I am saying I couldn't say it better myself, not that I strongly believed him. Maybe you need to go re-read what Prado actually said to understand.

I took what to said to mean that you could not express your reasons for scum reading summit any better than TrPrado did, which would imply that you agree with his reasons.

TrPrado gave 3 reasons:

1. "Summit has consistently been responding to pressure by cherry picking or ignoring it."

2. "I told him he ignored my question, he asked me to repeat it and when I did I didn't get an answer."

3. "But he REALLY needed to post his EON reads instead."

Which of these reasons do you agree with?

[Hamilton Brian]

This can’t be scum emc. No way he’s this good

What has he done other than post here and there and not really be caught up?

That's incredibly easy to do as scum, especially if you're a sub.

If the vote ended five minutes from now would you be confident in slipping your vote from summit to emc?

[Durga]

More banter is hand less investigating? What? What does this mean?

And if I'm different why do you think I'm still scummy.

Stupid iPad typing. Should have read as "more bantering and less investigating."

And I just feel like there's something weird in your interactions with ghug. Just something I feel suspicious of. Not logical at all.

So I'm doing less investigating then when I was scum? Sounds weird.

There's nothing to be sus of. You could probably go back to games from two years ago and it would be like that too. It's NAI

[rdrivera2005]

If we are going to kill a low information slot today, I would prefer it be someone other than Bob.

behold, a wild flash wagon has already appeared

Yes, that was my point, that most of the votes are now on low information slots.

Bozo, as you seems to be around and catch up, could you comment on Prado post about you townreading Yoyo for something he didn't do? (page 73, hard to quote on the cell).

[flash2015]

In short the only person who really seemed to even make a case for bunny with their vote was HR and now he is dead. The others on the wagon. Myself, ghug, venca, and worcej are obvious scum candidates. I've made my case about my unfortunate thought process for my vote.

Ghug at least tried to defend his Bunny vote...it feels like Vecna is just flailing around to create mis-kills. Vecna is scum this game.

[Durga]

In short the only person who really seemed to even make a case for bunny with their vote was HR and now he is dead. The others on the wagon. Myself, ghug, venca, and worcej are obvious scum candidates. I've made my case about my unfortunate thought process for my vote.

Ghug at least tried to defend his Bunny vote...it feels like Vecna is just flailing around to create mis-kills. Vecna is scum this game.

The fact that Vecna is on your wagon right now makes me feel like you're right. I don't really get why he's voting you when he's had this weird hard on for rdr - I can't recall Vecna voting lurkers so much but my memory is also shit.

The other issue is that whenever Vecna posts I think "damn that's townie"

But his actions are really meh to me. Him voting you bc you've posted 4 times is meh to me.

[worcej]

I’m kind of annoyed that I just woke up in the middle of the night, decided to read up on this thread because I hate myself, and found nothing more than a page and a half of ghug shitposting

Is there anything about it that is AI to you?

[Vecna]

behold, a wild flash wagon has already appeared

Yes, that was my point, that most of the votes are now on low information slots.

Bozo, as you seems to be around and catch up, could you comment on Prado post about you townreading Yoyo for something he didn't do? (page 73, hard to quote on the cell).

or scumreading me for something I didnt do, and commented on like 3 times, while you keep repeating the same argument...

[ghug]

Why have non of my null reads either obv towned or obv scummed yet

Why is this important when you're the judge and the jury for your own opinion on this?

Is there anything lazier or less productive than questioning each individual post from a known drunk person after the fact?

[flash2015]

Why?

Why'd you vote Yoyo?

Didn’t like his D1, when I looked at his posts he seemed kinda unnatural like he wanted to look helpful without actually being helpful. He’s my other solid scum read so now I’m going to vote for him since summit has put a little doubt into that read on him.

OK, you answered the question

[rdrivera2005]

In short the only person who really seemed to even make a case for bunny with their vote was HR and now he is dead. The others on the wagon. Myself, ghug, venca, and worcej are obvious scum candidates. I've made my case about my unfortunate thought process for my vote.

Ghug at least tried to defend his Bunny vote...it feels like Vecna is just flailing around to create mis-kills. Vecna is scum this game.

I really don't like your wagon Flash. I don't have a solid townread on any of the voters. Maybe a little on Bo, but not on my top town reads.

[Durga]

Agh I miss xorxes I just want to sheep someone smarter than me ((

[worcej]

Answer mine first

Because he actually has a reason unlike your apparent sheeping.

Why do you keep making it seem like people sheeping someone else is inherently bad? If people agree with someone, maybe they had a decent argument.

Trying to convince people is at the core of this game. Ghugs reasoning was really much worse than all the other people that voted you, yet you take an arbitrary choice to just cuddle up to him for whatever reason.

Perhaps it is my own opinion, but sheeping multiple times in the same phase strikes me as scum being present but without risking themselves. I expect people to have reasons for their votes and if they seem to just be agreeing with other people, it stands out.

And I guess I need you to explain how I cuddled? He actually said I came off as scummy and I'd respect that more. 3 people who voted for me did so because they'd effectively be 'okay' with it.

[Vecna]

In short the only person who really seemed to even make a case for bunny with their vote was HR and now he is dead. The others on the wagon. Myself, ghug, venca, and worcej are obvious scum candidates. I've made my case about my unfortunate thought process for my vote.

Ghug at least tried to defend his Bunny vote...it feels like Vecna is just flailing around to create mis-kills. Vecna is scum this game.

The fact that Vecna is on your wagon right now makes me feel like you're right. I don't really get why he's voting you when he's had this weird hard on for rdr - I can't recall Vecna voting lurkers so much but my memory is also shit.

The other issue is that whenever Vecna posts I think "damn that's townie"

But his actions are really meh to me. Him voting you bc you've posted 4 times is meh to me.

You really are characterizing my reasoning in a way that I do not approve of.

[Hamilton Brian]

EoD was really darn empty. I'm surprised. Was it because everybody thought it was an hour later? Regardless, I'm still struggling to work out who to vote for. Out of the closest wagons to me, I think there's a better case for flash than Tr, flash has been pretty absent and vague. (I mean yes you could argue I'm the same, but I just subbed off the back of someone who'd been missing for liket hree days, and I haven't had much time to read. I'll be back with a good bit more tomorrow if I'm still alive, promise). I'm not a huuuge fan of the flash wagon but I don't have anyone better to vote for and a decent chance of hitting scum or at worst a lurker is better than guaranteed town as far as I'm concerned.

Something doesn't stand well here. 3rd vote on the wagon, then it's the lead.

##unvote

[worcej]

So you think he reason is good?????

It is the best out of any one presented. If you think my defense is scummy, then that is in game and a decision you made yourself.

You really gonna sit there and claim that taking a random post and saying "this is scummy" after a bunch of people start a wagon on you is a better reasoning for hopping on than the meta case fox brewed up?

Yes, because of all the reasons I already addressed with Fox's case.

Go read that post and process it before you make an obviously bad post like this one.

[ghug]

Agh I miss xorxes I just want to sheep someone smarter than me ((

Hi

[flash2015]

From what I've read of ghug, venca, and worcej so far I would feel relatively comfortable voting for any of them. For now I will ##vote ghug since he is the one who gave me the bot link. Thanks

So this is largely because you believe there must be at least one scum on the Bunny wagon? So your ghug vote is completely a random choice from the three?

[flash2015]

What's the rationale for the Yoyo wagon?

Is it because they're a non-poster? Durga has made the closest thing resembling a case.

Is it better to kill off someone we're not hearing from (their inactivity can impede town, unless they're really scum and it doesn't matter) than to kill someone we can build an actual case on because of their interactions?

I think the latter is more viable, especially if Yoyo really is town.

I haven't been a fan of the Yoyo wagon either on D2. Since he hadn't been around it looks like a lazy attempt at a miskill.

[Durga]

Agh I miss xorxes I just want to sheep someone smarter than me ((

Hi

Maybe in a lot of things but I'm afraid mafia is not one of them ghuggles