MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Foxcastle]

Yoyo’s replacement possibly means he wasn’t lurking and just couldn’t play. I’d rather kill Flash, who I think is very capable of trying to coast as scum.

##VOTE FLASH

No I really don't think it means this lmao

You think he quit because he rolled scum? Can you explain a little more why you think it’s more likely that Yoyo is a shitty person rather than a busy person?

[ghug]

Okay so the Bunny wagon was kinda awful I have to say, as far as I can tell he was lynched for having a "bad start", going to bed, and then coming back and reacting badly? I mean his start was actually fine IMO, at least his actions. Not a huge fan of the pedantics but it's way too small for it to be worth voting over, especially given he was going to sleep. That's a perfectly acceptable excuse for absence. (Speaking of which, it's 12am here so I'll probably only be around for another couple of hours before I go to sleep and wait to get drawn and quartered). Is there anything I missed in my somewhat brief analysis of the bunny votes?

Oh cool I like Aussies

[ghug]

Hello boys and girls

A friend invited me to her lakehouse, so I havent been home or really checking the internets, but I'm back now.

Tl'DR on Yoyo wagon?

From a vote count analyis perspective, maybe resolving a BismarckEMC or damo flip to get more outof Day 1 makes sense?

Yoyo hasn't posted today and just got replaced. His replacement should either get lynched because he's scummy today or he should not get lynched.

Why in the hell would we use day 2 to try and get more info out of day 1, and why would you ask this instead of seeing if you can't find reason to scumread one of the other wagons from day 1?

This 100%

And I can't shake the feeling that yoyo is scum based on his d1 and his decision to quit the game.

I was getting more confident he was scum based on the lurking, but I don't think he'd quit the game without an actual reason (or getting really tilted, which would require actually playing first).

[BobMcBob]

Aaaaand I'm back, after a considerably briefer than I was expecting hiatus. But here I am now, and I fully expect to be lynched by the end of the day because that's exactly what happened last time. I'm gonna be a little busy (again) but I'll try to post enough to contribute and then some. Okay? Don't get up me for it (or do, your choice I guess).

Somebody tell me about this guy.

I presume you meant anyone but me, but this is like my 5th or 6th game, I'm not great, I tend to get overly defensive, make somewhat indecisive reads, come off as hedgy and forced and spend most of my time trying to get people off my back. Only ever been hung as mafia. I think last game I managed to do a lot less of the stuff I mentioned above, but still not a great performance. Never a particularly valuable player, but still a decent guy to have around.

[Durga]

Yoyo’s replacement possibly means he wasn’t lurking and just couldn’t play. I’d rather kill Flash, who I think is very capable of trying to coast as scum.

##VOTE FLASH

No I really don't think it means this lmao

You think he quit because he rolled scum? Can you explain a little more why you think it’s more likely that Yoyo is a shitty person rather than a busy person?

Why would you frame it like that? You know I love yoyo. Being scum requires a lot of effort, far more than being town, maybe that's why

[ghug]

Yoyo’s replacement possibly means he wasn’t lurking and just couldn’t play. I’d rather kill Flash, who I think is very capable of trying to coast as scum.

##VOTE FLASH

##VOTE Hamilton

He's had most of the day to obvtown himself since vacation ended and I'm not seeing anything good.

[Foxcastle]

No I really don't think it means this lmao

You think he quit because he rolled scum? Can you explain a little more why you think it’s more likely that Yoyo is a shitty person rather than a busy person?

Why would you frame it like that? You know I love yoyo. Being scum requires a lot of effort, far more than being town, maybe that's why

I do know that, which is why I wonder that you’re landing on Yoyo’s departure being scum indicative instead of NAI. Someone who is too busy to play scum can also be too busy to play town.

[seth24c]

Yoyo’s replacement possibly means he wasn’t lurking and just couldn’t play. I’d rather kill Flash, who I think is very capable of trying to coast as scum.

##VOTE FLASH

##VOTE Hamilton

He's had most of the day to obvtown himself since vacation ended and I'm not seeing anything good.

I would also like to see more out of HB. I’ve felt like he’s been reserved with the exception of the pressure he tried to put on me for the end of day one. When that had largely been already hashed out.

[seth24c]

Hamilton making it glaringly obvious that he is not actually reading the game

Interesting point of view. What is the inaccuracy or flaw?

He's already answered and philosofied over this very point for quite some time, and quite in depth, with feelings and all.

Vecna potentially coaching?

[ghug]

Interesting point of view. What is the inaccuracy or flaw?

He's already answered and philosofied over this very point for quite some time, and quite in depth, with feelings and all.

Vecna potentially coaching?

You think he's coaching Hamilton?

[BobMcBob]

Well it's after 2am and I probably won't be up for EoD, so I'm just gonna go to sleep and pray I'm still alive when I wake up. (And even if I die, at least I get a bit of time back for doing other things, so it wouldn't be a complete loss I guess).

[Hamilton Brian]

Starting a 10th wagon

##vote HamB

I'm honoured, I guess? Doesn't happen often.

With time ticking down, not a fan of the BoYo wagon. They just got in.

Town reads thus far are Vecna and Seth. Small pool, unfortunately.

Suspicious of Durga, ghug, Bozo, Fox, and Damo.

[Durga]

You think he quit because he rolled scum? Can you explain a little more why you think it’s more likely that Yoyo is a shitty person rather than a busy person?

Why would you frame it like that? You know I love yoyo. Being scum requires a lot of effort, far more than being town, maybe that's why

I do know that, which is why I wonder that you’re landing on Yoyo’s departure being scum indicative instead of NAI. Someone who is too busy to play scum can also be too busy to play town.

Maybe. But his d1 where he was like "you're scum again Durga I'm sticking to my gut this time" was so fucking fake

[bozotheclown]

So your case is I am OMGUS'ing summit?

That, and the fact that you never mentioned summit before so strongly agreeing with TrPrado's scum read of him, especially since TrPrado's reason for voting for summit was for things summit specifically did to TrPrado, like not responding to his questions.

Well, to be fair, I did not say they were all specifically my questions, because they were not only mine. Is there much of a distinction between this and voting for someone else for how their interactions look?

It is not just that he voted for summit for his interaction with you, but that he confirmed your reasons as if he was thinking the same thing despite never mentioning summit previously:

Summit has consistently been responding to pressure by cherry picking or ignoring it. I told him he ignored my question, he asked me to repeat it and when I did I didn't get an answer. But he REALLY needed to post his EON reads instead. Not liking this.

Couldn't say it any better. I like this wagon.

##vote summit

[Durga]

Well it's after 2am and I probably won't be up for EoD, so I'm just gonna go to sleep and pray I'm still alive when I wake up. (And even if I die, at least I get a bit of time back for doing other things, so it wouldn't be a complete loss I guess).

Agh you're putting me in a difficult position. Damn it

[Durga]

HB why are you so reserved this game?

[Hamilton Brian]

Well it's after 2am and I probably won't be up for EoD, so I'm just gonna go to sleep and pray I'm still alive when I wake up. (And even if I die, at least I get a bit of time back for doing other things, so it wouldn't be a complete loss I guess).

Agh you're putting me in a difficult position. Damn it

Who would your second be?

[bozotheclown]

Wanting to find an alternative in what now looks like the likely case of Yoyo not meeting the requirements in time, going back to the interactions he had and ugh.

I believe the grammar was well covered. I do not think there is much with the setup to discuss yet, there are 81 possible combinations of town PRs. I think there would be some value in a mass claim so that we know what we are dealing with, but it is not obvious that the benefit would outweigh the cost of our PRs getting killed early, so I am confident there would be little or no support for a mass claim.

Bruh.
If it already wasn’t clear to you, this is a really shitty idea. I’d say this was super fishy if it weren’t such an obviously bad idea, and we weren’t fresh off a loss due to one of your genius plans. You’re doing me no favors in my effort to convince myself that you’re going to be useful this game.

the bolded text [added bold] funny

immediately after he supports hypo claim idea, gets slightly hedgy on it when it catches flak

most (almost all) of his substance is about the "i am town" statements or the hypo claim idea, and the only person who can be SOMEWHAT incriminated by them if Yoyo flips scum would be bozo

who's talked about him? thats a lot more content from the looks of it

[snip]

##vote Yoyo, just on a feeling that his push on Durga seems so fake.

theres something about this that feels almost off, to anyone else?

went and reread bozo's town read of Yoyo and it's literally "yeah he was vocally in favor of my hypo claim idea no scum would be!" got a good chuckle

Yoyoyozo was arguing the benefits of the Weak Doctor hypo claims, all things (Prado note: this was included with Bunny and damo town reads for other reasons) that I felt they would not be doing as scum.

Funny, but true.

[Durga]

Well it's after 2am and I probably won't be up for EoD, so I'm just gonna go to sleep and pray I'm still alive when I wake up. (And even if I die, at least I get a bit of time back for doing other things, so it wouldn't be a complete loss I guess).

Agh you're putting me in a difficult position. Damn it

Who would your second be?

I'm not sure yet.

Why are you sus of me?

[dargorygel]

Okay so the Bunny wagon was kinda awful I have to say, as far as I can tell he was lynched for having a "bad start", going to bed, and then coming back and reacting badly? I mean his start was actually fine IMO, at least his actions. Not a huge fan of the pedantics but it's way too small for it to be worth voting over, especially given he was going to sleep. That's a perfectly acceptable excuse for absence. (Speaking of which, it's 12am here so I'll probably only be around for another couple of hours before I go to sleep and wait to get drawn and quartered). Is there anything I missed in my somewhat brief analysis of the bunny votes?

Please do not use the word, "Lynch." Thank you