MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Foxcastle]

Worcej in M54: "If I get lynched for being an asshole then those who vote for me are actually not trying to sort this game out," and "I understand why you would be upset, but I am an asshole/bully when it comes to things like these." Before ultimately..

worcej has died, he was Albert Caquot, a Vanilla Town

But it's M47 where he really shines. "Being an asshole like I am is not scummy btw, it’s just rude," and "I know I am rough and annoying and an asshole..." and "No, I am just simply an asshole." Which led to...

The town gathered again to try to continue their streak and cornered worcej, unaware that a creature of myth would be their victim. They truly did not know shit about the Congo.

WORCEJ has died. He was the OKAPI, a Vanilla Town.

Contrast that to M1010 where, as I pointed out before, he won as scum in no small part because he was congenial and kept his nose clean.

Congratulations to Jamiet, worcej, and damo for the win as mafia!

I was also worried about him buddying me in that game, because worcej and I often butt heads, but we hadn't that game, and we haven't this game. It's not proof, but it's good enough for me on D2.

Huh? Isn’t it realistic for someone to want to be better at the game if they get repeatedly voted out as VT for the same behavior?

Maybe! Worcej could very well be on a quest to better himself, like a Buddhist monk of WebDip Mafia... But I think the simpler explanation is scum meta (motivation to be less abrasive and obtrusive) versus town meta (lack of a need to control).

[Durga]

##vote worcej

[Vecna]

##vote Worcej

[Vecna]

I dont often listen to other people their meta-cases, but Fox is like all zen next to a river, so who knows, this could lead to some good stuff.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.3

worcej (5) - Foxcastle, summit_fever, bozotheclown, Durga, Vecna
summit_fever (3) - TrPrado, bo_sox48, worcej
Yoyoyozo - (1) rdrivera2005
Durga (1) - damo666
TrPrado (1) - ghug

30 hours and 40 minutes are left in Day Two

Currently WORCEJ is under the greatest suspicion of witchcraft.

e.m.c^42, flash2015, Chaqa, seth24c and Yoyoyozo should remember to participate in the game.

[worcej]

What's scummy about worcej?

I haven't been an asshole. Remember his crappy post about that?

I don’t! What was it and why has it struck a cord with you?

The cord it strikes is only that I am trying to not flame/yell/antagonize people. It's a 'damned if I do, damned if I don't' situation from my point of view.

It is also a weak case to put me as scum and incredibly lazy. My crimes are:

1. being busy and not posting a lot, but definitely giving content
2. being nice.

I'm okay being a wagon, but at least have something I can counter or explain.

[worcej]

Summit has consistently been responding to pressure by cherry picking or ignoring it. I told him he ignored my question, he asked me to repeat it and when I did I didn't get an answer. But he REALLY needed to post his EON reads instead. Not liking this.

Couldn't say it any better. I like this wagon.

##vote summit

You think I'm scum due to my interactions with Prado?

I don't really get it. Foodcoats did a lot of damage tunnelling xorxes and myself in M1011. Why condone this type of behaviour? At least Foodcoats was pleasant enough to apologise after. If that is forthcoming in this instance I'll be genuinely surprised.

This guy has been on my ass with disingenuitiy since early in day 1 with a "I don't think you're town" and then has the temerity to act insulted I didn't respond to that. Then it goes on and on with disagreement over shit I didn't even say. He isn't asking questions trying to ascertain the truth. He's in a tunnel.

I think you're scum for your behavior and voting patterns.

The TrPrado interaction does not influence my opinions, he just articulated my opinion better than I could.

[worcej]

If you pick any 5 players in this game, there is a 78.3% chance that at least one is scum.

This is noise and not helpful.

[worcej]

Summit has consistently been responding to pressure by cherry picking or ignoring it. I told him he ignored my question, he asked me to repeat it and when I did I didn't get an answer. But he REALLY needed to post his EON reads instead. Not liking this.

Couldn't say it any better. I like this wagon.

##vote summit

These were some very specific things for worcej to complete agree with, especially about a player he had not previously mentioned and had voted for him D1.

##VOTE worcej

So your case is I am OMGUS'ing summit?

[worcej]

##vote worcej

##vote Worcej

These are also pathetic and low effort.

[worcej]

I dont often listen to other people their meta-cases, but Fox is like all zen next to a river, so who knows, this could lead to some good stuff.

I've never had a larger scum boner for you from a statement like this.

You usually always push your own cases and make your opinion known. Now you are sheeping?

[worcej]

worcej (5) Foxcastle, summit_fever, bozotheclown, Durga, Vecna

Foxcastle: Meta
Summit: OMGUS
Bozo: accusing me of OMGUS (my opinion)
Durga: Sheeping
Vecna: Sheeping

Well done guys. Good cases.

For any actual town, do me the favor and don't forget about my posts like most people do in EVERY game.

[worcej]

No one is here to offer a discussion chance with me, so I guess I cannot really offer more pieces at this moment.

My general comment to Foxcastle's case is he cherry-picked his choices on games to represent me how he wants, not to show an actual portrayal of my personality. There are a couple games where his theory is completely broken and I can only assume he purposely excluded those.

Notable examples:

1. M44, where I was a complete dick/tool and was scum
2. M41, where I was both blunt/not rude and considered one of my best games and was 3P
3. M48 when I was also nice/jokey/non-dick and was a PR

Why were these purposely excluded? Like I said - cherry picking for a stupid case.

In general, if you want to punish me for trying to be nice and not hostile, fine - Go for it. But just be honest that it's a shit case and there are a lot of actual scummy behavior going on in this game.

[worcej]

And before you say I am OMGUS'ing, here is a little nugget for you meta fans.

Fox did this exact same thing (cherry picked a case to frame me) in M37 and was scum and caught for it.

[Foxcastle]

Oh, I absolutely cherrypicked the games that I remember being good examples. I'm not going to do a full deep dive of every game you've played, let alone the ones I wasn't in—I'm a lazy WebDipper, not a scientist. But M1010 was a real eye opener for me in terms of what you're capable of as scum.

[Foxcastle]

And before you say I am OMGUS'ing, here is a little nugget for you meta fans.

Fox did this exact same thing (cherry picked a case to frame me) in M37 and was scum and caught for it.

Isn't this exactly OMGUS'ing? "Fox cherrypicked a case on me, and now look at the case I'm cherrypicking on him!"

[Foxcastle]

Anyway, I like all of today's wagons—except maybe Durga's, where I've come around that she's possibly town, and we should make Flash a wagon instead.

[Foxcastle]

And before you say I am OMGUS'ing, here is a little nugget for you meta fans.

Fox did this exact same thing (cherry picked a case to frame me) in M37 and was scum and caught for it.

This is my M37 game. Can you explain what you mean about me cherrypicking a case on you? Because to me, it looks like a pretty generic scum push on you rather than any cherrypicking.

[Vecna]

I dont often listen to other people their meta-cases, but Fox is like all zen next to a river, so who knows, this could lead to some good stuff.

I've never had a larger scum boner for you from a statement like this.

You usually always push your own cases and make your opinion known. Now you are sheeping?

usually always!

[Durga]

I dont often listen to other people their meta-cases, but Fox is like all zen next to a river, so who knows, this could lead to some good stuff.

I've never had a larger scum boner for you from a statement like this.

You usually always push your own cases and make your opinion known. Now you are sheeping?

Yeah wait - he's got a point. And why couldn't you remember your vote between summit and worcej?