MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Foxcastle]

Seems I am a common scum read.

Come at me people, you will be disappointed.

Ask and you shall receive!

##VOTE WORCEJ

What's scummy about worcej?

Sometimes, it's what's missing that says more about what's there.

Do you think he's town?

[Vecna]

Would I be wrong to infer that there was Weak Doctor activity last night and someone was read as town? Based on this statement: "There were two bodies. But only one so-called witch had been hanged."

Sounds like he was talking about the day + nightkill?

[Durga]

Ask and you shall receive!

##VOTE WORCEJ

What's scummy about worcej?

Sometimes, it's what's missing that says more about what's there.

Do you think he's town?

I feel like this is how he usually is. I'd say null, there's nothing that makes me think one way or another.

[Vecna]

Idk what to make of Vecna hounding on rdr. I'm not sus of rdr so the tunnelling is weird

But the tunneling would be normal if you were suspicious of Rdr?

Anyways, my read is not super strong, and i dont think ive hounded him that much. I am more surprised about the way the slot is treated by people like Bozo.

Anyways, I shall ask you for your feelings next time im about to tunnel someone to avoid this awkward situation

[ghug]

Would I be wrong to infer that there was Weak Doctor activity last night and someone was read as town? Based on this statement: "There were two bodies. But only one so-called witch had been hanged."

That's odd, but it's generally accepted that flavor isn't supposed to give any additional information.

[Durga]

Idk what to make of Vecna hounding on rdr. I'm not sus of rdr so the tunnelling is weird

But the tunneling would be normal if you were suspicious of Rdr?

Anyways, my read is not super strong, and i dont think ive hounded him that much. I am more surprised about the way the slot is treated by people like Bozo.

Anyways, I shall ask you for your feelings next time im about to tunnel someone to avoid this awkward situation

What's with you? Why are you so hedgy just because I don't agree with your read

[bozotheclown]

##vote bozo for making us all give scum a bunch of info

Do you think any of the "information" was useful to scum? I believe we had half the players participate in the hypo claims. The scum do not know what roles exist, or if any PRs chose to participate.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE Vecna

Vecna may have flipped HR to make himself look better.

[Durga]

##vote bozo for making us all give scum a bunch of info

Do you think any of the "information" was useful to scum? I believe we had half the players participate in the hypo claims. The scum do not know what roles exist, or if any PRs chose to participate.

Bozo, anyone who said they'd WD someone who's scum has already been ruled out to not be WD and that could be a significant amount. We don't want that. We're not doing this hypo shit again. WD can find a way to tell us the answer.

And don't worry, I remembered last game and no longer scum read you for shitty mechanics

@vecna what did you think about everyone giving out hypo claims. I thought you'd be angrier about this

[Durga]

##vote Vecna

Sure why not bozo let's go

[Vecna]

Idk what to make of Vecna hounding on rdr. I'm not sus of rdr so the tunnelling is weird

But the tunneling would be normal if you were suspicious of Rdr?

Anyways, my read is not super strong, and i dont think ive hounded him that much. I am more surprised about the way the slot is treated by people like Bozo.

Anyways, I shall ask you for your feelings next time im about to tunnel someone to avoid this awkward situation

What's with you? Why are you so hedgy just because I don't agree with your read

The last part was a joke. Anyways, it is a bit odd that this specific read you do not agree with is reason for you to call me out at this moment.

I did not think ive attacked Rdrivera hard at all, especially not to warrant it being called tunneling. Ive stated he's been very low on commentary on the game so far, and most of the things he has done are very low hanging fruit type of comments.

And yes, I do think this is how he plays scum. Or town if he's just not paying a lot of attention.

I love to hedge. Why pretend that everything is absolute when we dont have a fucking clue.

[Vecna]

##VOTE Vecna

Vecna may have flipped HR to make himself look better.

I was openly attacking HR. So please, explain this statement?

[ghug]

##VOTE Vecna

Vecna may have flipped HR to make himself look better.

Can you elaborate on this?

[Vecna]

##vote bozo for making us all give scum a bunch of info

Do you think any of the "information" was useful to scum? I believe we had half the players participate in the hypo claims. The scum do not know what roles exist, or if any PRs chose to participate.

Bozo, anyone who said they'd WD someone who's scum has already been ruled out to not be WD and that could be a significant amount. We don't want that. We're not doing this hypo shit again. WD can find a way to tell us the answer.

And don't worry, I remembered last game and no longer scum read you for shitty mechanics

@vecna what did you think about everyone giving out hypo claims. I thought you'd be angrier about this

I actually wanted to join the hypo claims, but got called away just before EoD.

I dont really see how its that much of a negative. The Prs themselves are quite capable of deciding whether they want to partake, and like (I think?) yoyo said before, it might be interesting if they just hide so all the VT's take bullets.

[Durga]

I think d1 was likely town v town because of the lack of movement. I don't think we can really read into the wagons, I doubt the Bismarck slot is going to flip scum, I think Seth is likely town for flipping the way he did.

I'm a little lost to be honest, no one is really standing out strongly to me as scum, I think I'll go back and read in a bit to see if anything can enlighten me.

I would really like to hear from yoyo and Chaqa and probably more people that I'm even forgetting are in this game.

[ghug]

I think d1 was likely town v town because of the lack of movement. I don't think we can really read into the wagons, I doubt the Bismarck slot is going to flip scum, I think Seth is likely town for flipping the way he did.

I'm a little lost to be honest, no one is really standing out strongly to me as scum, I think I'll go back and read in a bit to see if anything can enlighten me.

I would really like to hear from yoyo and Chaqa and probably more people that I'm even forgetting are in this game.

I think there's a decent chance you're right here, but it's worth noting that many of us were expecting EoD to be an hour later, which could be another explanation for the lack of movement.

[Durga]

Do you think any of the "information" was useful to scum? I believe we had half the players participate in the hypo claims. The scum do not know what roles exist, or if any PRs chose to participate.

Bozo, anyone who said they'd WD someone who's scum has already been ruled out to not be WD and that could be a significant amount. We don't want that. We're not doing this hypo shit again. WD can find a way to tell us the answer.

And don't worry, I remembered last game and no longer scum read you for shitty mechanics

@vecna what did you think about everyone giving out hypo claims. I thought you'd be angrier about this

I actually wanted to join the hypo claims, but got called away just before EoD.

I dont really see how its that much of a negative. The Prs themselves are quite capable of deciding whether they want to partake, and like (I think?) yoyo said before, it might be interesting if they just hide so all the VT's take bullets.

Why didn't you say anything before you got called away. You even reacted to me saying I'd save you. Why would it have to be EoD itself if you wanted to participate

Also, it really helps narrow it down for scum? Like I said oh I'm gonna save Vecna, and you're actually scum, and you didn't die, you know I'm not wd. That's got to help somewhat? Don't you think?

[Durga]

I think d1 was likely town v town because of the lack of movement. I don't think we can really read into the wagons, I doubt the Bismarck slot is going to flip scum, I think Seth is likely town for flipping the way he did.

I'm a little lost to be honest, no one is really standing out strongly to me as scum, I think I'll go back and read in a bit to see if anything can enlighten me.

I would really like to hear from yoyo and Chaqa and probably more people that I'm even forgetting are in this game.

I think there's a decent chance you're right here, but it's worth noting that many of us were expecting EoD to be an hour later, which could be another explanation for the lack of movement.

If anyone is scum there it's probably damo. Do you think damo is town this time? Although you got it wrong last time anyway.

It sounded like a fair amount of people knew the EoD time. I only remember me and Foxy being confused by it (I could be wrong)

What kind of interesting things are you looking for people to claim, ghug? That statement felt really weird.

[Vecna]

Bozo, anyone who said they'd WD someone who's scum has already been ruled out to not be WD and that could be a significant amount. We don't want that. We're not doing this hypo shit again. WD can find a way to tell us the answer.

And don't worry, I remembered last game and no longer scum read you for shitty mechanics

@vecna what did you think about everyone giving out hypo claims. I thought you'd be angrier about this

I actually wanted to join the hypo claims, but got called away just before EoD.

I dont really see how its that much of a negative. The Prs themselves are quite capable of deciding whether they want to partake, and like (I think?) yoyo said before, it might be interesting if they just hide so all the VT's take bullets.

Why didn't you say anything before you got called away. You even reacted to me saying I'd save you. Why would it have to be EoD itself if you wanted to participate

Also, it really helps narrow it down for scum? Like I said oh I'm gonna save Vecna, and you're actually scum, and you didn't die, you know I'm not wd. That's got to help somewhat? Don't you think?

I think its a lot more upside to town to actually get cop reports. Instead of us risking the WD just dying without us knowing the visits.

Id expect the WD to die naturally before scum figure it out if done smartly.

As for the EoN thing: scum might choose to change their NK to people that are not mentioned in any WD reports to make sure no save happens from that role.

Anyways, you can drop the attack dog attitude towards me, theres nothing here worth barking at. pinky promise

[bo_sox48]

mostly =/= only. I chose to do my best to save a townread, given not much else was happening.

Thank you for taking the time to answer one question. Can you answer the others?

Regarding that one answer you gave, you're contradicting yourself. How is voting for Bismarck and (literally) shrugging when everyone else doesn't magically follow you around doing your best to save Bunny? You did nothing to save Bunny other than vote for Bismarck, which in itself is hardly meaningful because you tied the vote and left it up to someone else to decide whether or not to save him rather than trying to convince someone else to vote with you and put your chosen wagon over the top. That is my point.