MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[ghug]

No Visit

Why would you no visit as doctor? Just cause you think you're amazing?

Because, if you read the Weak Doctor role, it dies if it visits mafia.

I think it would be best utilised by not visiting until we have some outed PR claims, and then it could be used as a claim-confirmer.

That was the "you think you're amazing" part. I think it's way more valuable as a cop.

[rdrivera2005]

I would WD Fox and Desperado Yoyo (but not this night).

[Durga]

Hmmm. I do feel like we're given scum a lot of info with this

[Vecna]

ye u guys better pick different targets and post em at eon.

[damo666]

What can scum do with the info? Confine their NK to someone not listed as a WD target? Is that so bad?

[ghug]

What can scum do with the info? Confine their NK to someone not listed as a WD target? Is that so bad?

It also tells them definitively that people aren't weak doctor, which is useful even if the role isn't in the game.

[damo666]

What can scum do with the info? Confine their NK to someone not listed as a WD target? Is that so bad?

It also tells them definitively that people aren't weak doctor, which is useful even if the role isn't in the game.

Sorry, please explain.

[ghug]

What can scum do with the info? Confine their NK to someone not listed as a WD target? Is that so bad?

It also tells them definitively that people aren't weak doctor, which is useful even if the role isn't in the game.

Sorry, please explain.

Sorry, I'll rephrase that as "useful even though we don't know for sure if the role is in the game". Just because it's a little more cloudy doesn't mean it isn't bad.

[Hellenic Riot]

Why would you no visit as doctor? Just cause you think you're amazing?

Because, if you read the Weak Doctor role, it dies if it visits mafia.

I think it would be best utilised by not visiting until we have some outed PR claims, and then it could be used as a claim-confirmer.

That was the "you think you're amazing" part. I think it's way more valuable as a cop.

I think lategames with no clears are not worth the trade-off for a single early scum, not least when that scum is confirmed by mechanics and therefore we can't get much reads from their death

[ghug]

Because, if you read the Weak Doctor role, it dies if it visits mafia.

I think it would be best utilised by not visiting until we have some outed PR claims, and then it could be used as a claim-confirmer.

That was the "you think you're amazing" part. I think it's way more valuable as a cop.

I think lategames with no clears are not worth the trade-off for a single early scum, not least when that scum is confirmed by mechanics and therefore we can't get much reads from their death

I agree. Which is why we should be using the role that can clear people rather than saving it to save people.

[Hellenic Riot]

That was the "you think you're amazing" part. I think it's way more valuable as a cop.

I think lategames with no clears are not worth the trade-off for a single early scum, not least when that scum is confirmed by mechanics and therefore we can't get much reads from their death

I agree. Which is why we should be using the role that can clear people rather than saving it to save people.

When we (possibly) have a 3P that wins when all PR's are dead, sacrificing a PR for some pseudo-clear VT's ain't a great trade

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

If you have night actions, please ensure you send them by PM to both GMs.

[bo_sox48]

What exactly was the Bismarck wagon? It was basically a constant thing the entire day but on the rare occasion it took the lead it was quickly replaced by someone else.

Of particular interest, seth dropped his first vote on the Bismarck wagon, giving it a lead, then leaves it, then gets on Bunny with a tie vote and a chance to basically decide the lynch...

[bo_sox48]

Which came after saying he didn't understand the Bunny wagon and preferred Bismarck.

[bo_sox48]

Seth, why did you vote Bismarck first and why did you vote Bunny at the deadline?

[ghug]

What exactly was the Bismarck wagon? It was basically a constant thing the entire day but on the rare occasion it took the lead it was quickly replaced by someone else.

Of particular interest, seth dropped his first vote on the Bismarck wagon, giving it a lead, then leaves it, then gets on Bunny with a tie vote and a chance to basically decide the lynch...

You think a new player opened the game with a bus?

[bo_sox48]

Seth has been around the site since when I joined, I don’t think this is his first game here is it?

Either way, I don’t know. I’m asking him for some clarity.

[ghug]

Seth has been around the site since when I joined, I don’t think this is his first game here is it?

Either way, I don’t know. I’m asking him for some clarity.

Read the thread

[seth24c]

What exactly was the Bismarck wagon? It was basically a constant thing the entire day but on the rare occasion it took the lead it was quickly replaced by someone else.

Of particular interest, seth dropped his first vote on the Bismarck wagon, giving it a lead, then leaves it, then gets on Bunny with a tie vote and a chance to basically decide the lynch...

I realize this was a really suspicious and stupid thing to do and looks really bad for me. But this was me being overwhelmed in the end of the phase when I realized I was likely to be the deciding vote.. This was not me being scum, I just didn't know what to do and several people had been making a huge deal about the Bismarck wagon being for no reason so I second guessed myself. I still don't think I probably should have ever voted Bismarck either..

[Durga]

What exactly was the Bismarck wagon? It was basically a constant thing the entire day but on the rare occasion it took the lead it was quickly replaced by someone else.

Of particular interest, seth dropped his first vote on the Bismarck wagon, giving it a lead, then leaves it, then gets on Bunny with a tie vote and a chance to basically decide the lynch...

I realize this was a really suspicious and stupid thing to do and looks really bad for me. But this was me being overwhelmed in the end of the phase when I realized I was likely to be the deciding vote.. This was not me being scum, I just didn't know what to do and several people had been making a huge deal about the Bismarck wagon being for no reason so I second guessed myself. I still don't think I probably should have ever voted Bismarck either..

Yeeeeah. I'm town reading Seth too