Mini-Mafia M1014

[rdrivera2005]

ghug don't take my place.

I feel very comfortable with ##Vote yoyo

My reasoning? He's posting like I do. Like, I'm seeing his posts and going "yeah, I'd say that"

Except I'm always scum, and only know to play the game as such. Ergo, yoyo is scum.

This comment seems so not Gold. You finally is town or you are forcing to change your meta?

How's it going, rd?

How would you say gold normally plays as scum? What's different here?

Find the question.

Gold usually looks scummy as any alignment and he has rolled scum a lot lately. But this game he looks more towny and I like his questioning of Yoyo.

[Yoyoyozo]

Oh and rd's questions were really good vibes in isolation but the fact that he missed the part where my question to yoyo was shitposting and was answered gives me pause.

I knew you were joking and I was joking too. But I really get scum vibes from Yoyo.

I get town vibes from Ghug and Moscow.

I think I miss a question, will have to get back to it.

MoscowFleet didn’t know ghug was joking and noted that I ignored his question clearly I’m scum paired with him.

[MoscowFleet]

Hamilton made a point to introduce himself to Yoyoyozo, even though they were both in the last game, although for a short amount of time, since Yoyoyozo was a late sub:



However, you are the only player Hamilton has not been in a mafia game with, yet he responded to you without any introduction. That is why I asked him if he already knew you. Did you already know Hamilton?

Hamilton going out of his way to explain himself to Yoyoyozo specifically seemed odd to me, enough to consider they could be scum partners. Hamilton's explanation was not unreasonable, but Yoyoyozo has not responded to my question.

The colors are not random, but they are not a crumb.

This is a huge stretch. You think Hamilton, as scum, posts an easily verifiable lie pretending to never have played with yoyo, all as an excuse to do what exactly - introduce himself? Cmon.

And btw, I know Hamilton from dip, and we were on team Canada together a few years ago as well.

That could be what he wants you to think.

Sure, it could be. Or it could not be. What's your point?

[MoscowFleet]

Hamilton made a point to introduce himself to Yoyoyozo, even though they were both in the last game, although for a short amount of time, since Yoyoyozo was a late sub:



However, you are the only player Hamilton has not been in a mafia game with, yet he responded to you without any introduction. That is why I asked him if he already knew you. Did you already know Hamilton?

Hamilton going out of his way to explain himself to Yoyoyozo specifically seemed odd to me, enough to consider they could be scum partners. Hamilton's explanation was not unreasonable, but Yoyoyozo has not responded to my question.

The colors are not random, but they are not a crumb.

This is a huge stretch. You think Hamilton, as scum, posts an easily verifiable lie pretending to never have played with yoyo, all as an excuse to do what exactly - introduce himself? Cmon.

And btw, I know Hamilton from dip, and we were on team Canada together a few years ago as well.

Maybe the scum team is Canadian. I do not know who is more likely to be scum, Durga for calling my insightful, well formulated questions pointless, or Moscow for agreeing with her.

Insighted and well formulated? Get a load of this guy.

[MoscowFleet]

As for HB's supposed townslip, I'm inclined to believe it, but that could just be me wanting to confirm my previous townread of him.

[rdrivera2005]

As for HB's supposed townslip, I'm inclined to believe it, but that could just be me wanting to confirm my previous townread of him.

Agree, it's not exactly a townslip, but I really don't see scum HB saying something like this.

[ghug]

Dark mode doesn't change the little messages to red when they're unread.

[Hamilton Brian]

What do you mean know each other? You knew Jamie was your partner in the mini game before the night.

Not in the mini-game we played in. I don't think it was supposed to be revealed until D1 was done. Anyway, that was the debacle where I was Mafia all by myself until I PM'd Foxcastle in a tizzy because I was just talking to myself.

[Hamilton Brian]

Yoyo, don't overestimate HB. He can pass off reasonably well as an AI that *just* fails the Turing Test

2nd friggin' game where this has been thrown my way. Last game I laughed it off. This time I need to figure out what the joke is that I'm laughing at.

[Durga]

What do you mean know each other? You knew Jamie was your partner in the mini game before the night.

Not in the mini-game we played in. I don't think it was supposed to be revealed until D1 was done. Anyway, that was the debacle where I was Mafia all by myself until I PM'd Foxcastle in a tizzy because I was just talking to myself.

What are you talking about? Didn't Fox PM you with the name of your partner?

[Durga]

As for HB's supposed townslip, I'm inclined to believe it, but that could just be me wanting to confirm my previous townread of him.

Agree, it's not exactly a townslip, but I really don't see scum HB saying something like this.

It's not a townslip. It's just downright confusing. But he was downright confusing in the last game I played with him and he was town too. So yeah, this doesn't say anything one way or another.

[Hamilton Brian]

What are you talking about? Didn't Fox PM you with the name of your partner?

Nope. So I was just as surprised as anyone else. I was posting in that QT...crickets. Then Fox scrambled, let Jamie know, then we had some conversations. We agreed to kill Bo since he was zeroing in on me. Then, game was reset.

[Durga]

What are you talking about? Didn't Fox PM you with the name of your partner?

Nope. So I was just as surprised as anyone else. I was posting in that QT...crickets. Then Fox scrambled, let Jamie know, then we had some conversations. We agreed to kill Bo since he was zeroing in on me. Then, game was reset.

Because I'm curious, can you find Fox's PM and post it here?

[Hamilton Brian]

Alright...my reads.

Gold...last game, I felt like he was tucking me in to bed each night. Pocketing, he called it, later. I'm not getting any of that so far. As a matter of fact, it sounds like I am annoying the shit out of him. If he were scum, he'd be cultivating me on to his side, and that's not happening. Town.

Durga...the one game we were in together; I made an inadvertent suggestion, becasue my memory is shit. They made me feel like I was on the witness stand and my testimony was getting ready to get tossed out AND I'd be in for perjury. At this point, I am not the recipient of that treatment, and it is something to look out for. Perhaps the scum Durga is "less" like that? Town.

Ghug...can't get a handle on them. Comedian. Charlatan. Throws some one-liners that make me rethink my position. Leaning town.

Bozo...so far, town. Didn't get enough of them the last game to detect a pattern. The first game I was in, I named them scum but it was wholly intuitive. I couldn't prove it, but I think it was the way they tagged in on arguments against me. RIght now, pretty null.

RDR...they're good. Pretty scalpel-like with the right questions. Town the first game we were in, relatively early deceased the 2nd. At this point, null.

MoscowFleet, Damo... I have to go back to reread. Really nothing so far. Damo reads me as town, but that's not the be all to end all.

YoYo...Claiming some of this behaviour is excitement to be playing the game again; active then not active. I think you're my strongest scum read.

[goldfinger0303]

What are you talking about? Didn't Fox PM you with the name of your partner?

Nope. So I was just as surprised as anyone else. I was posting in that QT...crickets. Then Fox scrambled, let Jamie know, then we had some conversations. We agreed to kill Bo since he was zeroing in on me. Then, game was reset.

Because I'm curious, can you find Fox's PM and post it here?

I'm not sure if that's allowed...

I'm also not sure why this is a topic of conversation

[Hamilton Brian]

What are you talking about? Didn't Fox PM you with the name of your partner?

Nope. So I was just as surprised as anyone else. I was posting in that QT...crickets. Then Fox scrambled, let Jamie know, then we had some conversations. We agreed to kill Bo since he was zeroing in on me. Then, game was reset.

Because I'm curious, can you find Fox's PM and post it here?

After I went back through, I think you're right. I don't have the original PM but I have this one from Fox:

You are only allowed to communicate during the Night Phase (which will begin on Friday at 6:00 PM ET, after a player is voted out at the end of the Day Phase). At that point, you and Jamiet can communicate in the QuickTopic link provided in your Role PM. You can only communicate during the Night Phase, though, the QuickTopic thread is closed during the day phase.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

So Fox must have included Jamie in the original PM to me. Again, my memory...short on the details. This PM was just me trying to clarify when I could communicate with them.

Shit! I do this as town and it comes back to bite me in the ass or get me killed. I guess the lesson is have my facts straight before I put something in print.

[Durga]

Sigh.

[Durga]

Nope. So I was just as surprised as anyone else. I was posting in that QT...crickets. Then Fox scrambled, let Jamie know, then we had some conversations. We agreed to kill Bo since he was zeroing in on me. Then, game was reset.

Because I'm curious, can you find Fox's PM and post it here?

I'm not sure if that's allowed...

I'm also not sure why this is a topic of conversation

Of course it's allowed. It isn't this game.

Also, it's a topic of conversation because if HB wasn't lying about Fox not telling him Jamiet was his partner then it WAS a townslip. Now it's probably that he...forgot? I don't know frankly. :/ I don't understand how someone's memory could be this bad but also why would he pretend to not know this as scum

[goldfinger0303]

I don't know if scum are pushing this HB "townslip" fake conversation crap, but I am 100% sure they are just fine with it being the topic of conversation. At least last game we didn't have to do anything and town just tunneled on HB - allowing a couple of us to get easy townreads by defending him.

I'm also aware that's what I'm doing now.

However, I want to cut this crap out early. HB is for all intents and purposes NAI until we start getting flips and voting records. Cop would probably be best to just scan him tonight so we can get something concrete and prevent his existence from being used to scum's advantage. You can find something in his posts on any given day that is inconsistent and scummy, so pointing it out and digging into it will literally get us nowhere.

Or, we decide his very existence is to scum's advantage, and we take him out today. I don't rather much care either way, but I do know that these tunnels Durga, bozo and others are diving down are most likely harmful to town. Personally, I'm inclined to townread the ones tunneling and scumread those who are shying away (assuming HB is inno townie).

I'm also not sure if Durga's request to post a GM's PM is within the rules of the game.

[goldfinger0303]

Oops, posted that last bit twice.

Looking back through to see who hasn't commented on HB's case.