Mafia 57 Matrix

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Jamie, remembered I should not leave it last minute lol

OMGUS much?

I am not the wagon today.

[Jamiet99uk]

To our less ahem understanding players. It's important that we coalesce at the end of the day here once it's clear who's won the vote, as scum control a large enough number of the votes to flip a split [redact] at the last second.

I firmly agree.

Do you want to coalesce on EMC, or HR?

[goldfinger0303]

Why are you even voting for me, Gold?

Because you wanted to roleblock ghug but didn't follow through.

[Foxcastle]

Why are you even voting for me, Gold?

Because you wanted to roleblock ghug but didn't follow through.

So you don't actually have a reason?

[ghug]

Why are you even voting for me, Gold?

Because you wanted to roleblock ghug but didn't follow through.

The fact that I wasn't roleblocked is honestly a fairly significant piece of evidence in favor of gold being town.

[Jamiet99uk]

I was not Roleblocked.

[ghug]

To our less ahem understanding players. It's important that we coalesce at the end of the day here once it's clear who's won the vote, as scum control a large enough number of the votes to flip a split [redact] at the last second.

I firmly agree.

Do you want to coalesce on EMC, or HR?

Still prefer emc. Still prefer Fox most.

[Jamiet99uk]

To our less ahem understanding players. It's important that we coalesce at the end of the day here once it's clear who's won the vote, as scum control a large enough number of the votes to flip a split [redact] at the last second.

I firmly agree.

Do you want to coalesce on EMC, or HR?

Still prefer emc. Still prefer Fox most.

What are the chances that Foxcastle and EMC are both scum.

Can you see scum Foxcastle playing dumb and pretending not to know that EMC was saved twice, to distance himself?

[e.m.c^42]

##vote Jamie, remembered I should not leave it last minute lol

OMGUS much?

I am not the wagon today.

That's not my case, I don't think.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi, Peterlund.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Jamie, remembered I should not leave it last minute lol

OMGUS much?

I am not the wagon today.

That's not my case, I don't think.

No? Then I suppose you are just voting me because you like wasting your vote. It's one of the things you do.

[goldfinger0303]

@Jamiet - I want you ghug and I to be together. Would you join on Fox, or do you want to convince us to emc?

I don't care to hear about your erotic fantasies.

The problem for me is that Fox comes across as playing badly not playing like scum necessarily. I think he has made very little effort to keep up with the game, to the extent that he was apparently unaware of HR deliberately saving EMC twice, despite this having been the subject of a LOT of discussion.

So I really don't like the way he has played.

The problem is, I have a history of voting people for playing badly when this does not actually equal scum, so I am hesitant to move to Foxcastle.

Why do you think that EMC is town?

I think what you just used to describe Fox's play can just as easily be used to describe emc's play, or Temasek's play.

My main town case for emc is based off the votes. I genuinely don't see any bussing that happened on either D1 or D3 wagons, and to me - especially on D3 - that is implausible if emc is scum. I'm aware of what people said to potentially *save* emc, but there was no bussing. Maybe there's 1-2 scum roles that are worth saving in this setup, and nobody would bus those roles, but the odds of a detached person like emc being a very important scum role are low. I mean yes they might lurk, but emc was minutes away from a modkill.

[peterlund]

What if emc is an important scum role though? There are certain scum roles they might look to protect more than others.

This line reads like a cheeky scum saying exactly what's been happening so far this game. Maybe Fox vs EMC is scum vs scum? If so, HR is scum.

I tend to agree with you Ezio that HR is way too cool about everything in this game. I voting for him did not render in much reaction. It's a long time since I played a game with HR so I might be misremembering his meta. But this low key HR could very well be scum!HR and I am thus very happy with keeping my vote on Rdriv's first scum name in his last message.

[Hellenic Riot]

@Jamiet - I want you ghug and I to be together. Would you join on Fox, or do you want to convince us to emc?

I don't care to hear about your erotic fantasies.

The problem for me is that Fox comes across as playing badly not playing like scum necessarily. I think he has made very little effort to keep up with the game, to the extent that he was apparently unaware of HR deliberately saving EMC twice, despite this having been the subject of a LOT of discussion.

So I really don't like the way he has played.

The problem is, I have a history of voting people for playing badly when this does not actually equal scum, so I am hesitant to move to Foxcastle.

Why do you think that EMC is town?

I think what you just used to describe Fox's play can just as easily be used to describe emc's play, or Temasek's play.

My main town case for emc is based off the votes. I genuinely don't see any bussing that happened on either D1 or D3 wagons, and to me - especially on D3 - that is implausible if emc is scum. I'm aware of what people said to potentially *save* emc, but there was no bussing. Maybe there's 1-2 scum roles that are worth saving in this setup, and nobody would bus those roles, but the odds of a detached person like emc being a very important scum role are low. I mean yes they might lurk, but emc was minutes away from a modkill.

What do you think about EoD4, and the fact that nobody at all gave enough of a damn to move votes despite many people being around?

[Jamiet99uk]

"Minutes away from a modkill" is easily faked, though.

[Foxcastle]

I think what you just used to describe Fox's play can just as easily be used to describe emc's play, or Temasek's play.

Temasek lurked the entire game. Neither EMC nor myself have lurked like that, so that's simply untrue.

I admit I have looked more like EMC the past couple days, with long abscences, but that has not been the case for most of the game before that.

The three of us simply aren't comparable.

[Ezio]

I become a bundle of anxious nerves capable of making all sorts of sudden switches in these situations. Just ask Ezio.

I don't think I'm ever gonna forget that game. Greatest moment of all time.

[Hellenic Riot]

What if emc is an important scum role though? There are certain scum roles they might look to protect more than others.

This line reads like a cheeky scum saying exactly what's been happening so far this game. Maybe Fox vs EMC is scum vs scum? If so, HR is scum.

I tend to agree with you Ezio that HR is way too cool about everything in this game. I voting for him did not render in much reaction. It's a long time since I played a game with HR so I might be misremembering his meta. But this low key HR could very well be scum!HR and I am thus very happy with keeping my vote on Rdriv's first scum name in his last message.

I asked you why you picked me out over his other options and you failed to respond. What else were you anticipating me to do? The persons you've replaced have spent the entire game doing fuck all. Dropping a vote and disappearing is just more of the same there.

I don't recall ever being someone who got super angry at games, but perhaps I have rose-tinted goggles in that regard. I'm not about to now.

I do find it extremely ironic that after other people spent the whole game trying to kill emc, when I attempt to do what they ask the traction isn't there though. Clearly it was not just me that made emc so difficult to eliminate.

[peterlund]

@non-voters and HR voters - join a wagon and push your case. We can't have 3 viable wagons at EOD or scum could rush one.

Scum buddy trying to protect his scum buddy. Gold was the second name on Rdriv's list!!!

[Jamiet99uk]

@non-voters and HR voters - join a wagon and push your case. We can't have 3 viable wagons at EOD or scum could rush one.

Scum buddy trying to protect his scum buddy. Gold was the second name on Rdriv's list!!!

Which of the current wagons is Goldfinger trying to protect?

Be specific.