Mafia 57 Matrix

[Foxcastle]

DAY 1

flash2015 (5) Tom Bombadil summit_fever e.m.c^42 Hellenic Riot BunnyGo
damo666 (4) DemonRHK rdrivera2005 bozotheclown BismarckAlive
e.m.c^42 (4) Jamiet99uk damo666 flash2015 goldfinger0303
BunnyGo (3) bo_sox48 Foxcastle Hamilton Brian
summit_fever (3) Nanook therul ghug
bozotheclown (1) TheFlyingBoat
ghug (1) Chaqa
goldfinger0303 (1) worcej

DAY 3

TheFlyingBoat (8) Hellenic Riot BunnyGo e.m.c^42 damo666 Tom Bombadil goldfinger0303 ghug Foxcastle
Nanook (2) Jamiet99uk bo_sox48
Hellenic Riot (2) Nanook rdrivera2005
BismarckAlive (2) Temasek22 therul
e.m.c^42 (2) Hamilton Brian TheFlyingBoat

Based on how I expect scum to distribute themselves, I'd say Day 1 points to: either therul/yoyo or ghug; one of bo/ezio or Hamilton (or me, for completness); one of Jamiet or Gold; and then two of Tom, EMC, HR, and Bismark.

Similarly, Day 3 points to: maybe one or both of therul and Hamilton; one of Jamiet and Bo/ezio; and then 2-3 of Tom, EMC, HR, Gold, ghug, and myself. Bismark, EMC, and HR were main wagons on D3 and there was a lot of swapping around before FlyingBoat came up from nowhere. I think saving EMC two days in a row is a lot riskier than just bussing him, so that makes me think if anyone was saved, it was Bismark or HR; but if EMC was a scum PR, then it could have been him too.

Anyway, none of this matters, because ghug is just trying to get me killed so the game can be over. He's not doing anything but waiting, he's overconfident that he doesn't need to think past today.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Foxcastle: What about when you factor in the fact that we know HR was trying to save EMC on both of those days, because HR has said so?

[Foxcastle]

DAY 1

flash2015 (5) Tom Bombadil summit_fever e.m.c^42 Hellenic Riot BunnyGo
damo666 (4) DemonRHK rdrivera2005 bozotheclown BismarckAlive
e.m.c^42 (4) Jamiet99uk damo666 flash2015 goldfinger0303
BunnyGo (3) bo_sox48 Foxcastle Hamilton Brian
summit_fever (3) Nanook therul ghug
bozotheclown (1) TheFlyingBoat
ghug (1) Chaqa
goldfinger0303 (1) worcej

DAY 3

TheFlyingBoat (8) Hellenic Riot BunnyGo e.m.c^42 damo666 Tom Bombadil goldfinger0303 ghug Foxcastle
Nanook (2) Jamiet99uk bo_sox48
Hellenic Riot (2) Nanook rdrivera2005
BismarckAlive (2) Temasek22 therul
e.m.c^42 (2) Hamilton Brian TheFlyingBoat

Based on how I expect scum to distribute themselves, I'd say Day 1 points to: either therul/yoyo or ghug; one of bo/ezio or Hamilton (or me, for completness); one of Jamiet or Gold; and then two of Tom, EMC, HR, and Bismark.

Similarly, Day 3 points to: maybe one or both of therul and Hamilton; one of Jamiet and Bo/ezio; and then 2-3 of Tom, EMC, HR, Gold, ghug, and myself. Bismark, EMC, and HR were main wagons on D3 and there was a lot of swapping around before FlyingBoat came up from nowhere. I think saving EMC two days in a row is a lot riskier than just bussing him, so that makes me think if anyone was saved, it was Bismark or HR; but if EMC was a scum PR, then it could have been him too.

Anyway, none of this matters, because ghug is just trying to get me killed so the game can be over. He's not doing anything but waiting, he's overconfident that he doesn't need to think past today.

Bleh. I mismarked Tem here.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also @Foxcastle, why are you not voting?

[Foxcastle]

@Foxcastle: What about when you factor in the fact that we know HR was trying to save EMC on both of those days, because HR has said so?

I assume HR is trying to save EMC because he believe that EMC is town?

I don't think that I've seen the actual content.

[Foxcastle]

Also @Foxcastle, why are you not voting?

Why do you think?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Foxcastle: What about when you factor in the fact that we know HR was trying to save EMC on both of those days, because HR has said so?

I assume HR is trying to save EMC because he believe that EMC is town?

I don't think that I've seen the actual content.

Then you have missed a lot because it has been talked about a whole lot, including by HR himself.

[Hellenic Riot]

@Foxcastle: What about when you factor in the fact that we know HR was trying to save EMC on both of those days, because HR has said so?

I assume HR is trying to save EMC because he believe that EMC is town?

I don't think that I've seen the actual content.

Both Tom and I openly said so.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also @Foxcastle, why are you not voting?

Why do you think?

I am not in the business of asking rhetorical questions.

[Hellenic Riot]

Also @Foxcastle, why are you not voting?

Why do you think?

You're leaving it awful late if you want to start a wagon that isn't on one of you, me, or emc.

[Foxcastle]

@Foxcastle: What about when you factor in the fact that we know HR was trying to save EMC on both of those days, because HR has said so?

I assume HR is trying to save EMC because he believe that EMC is town?

I don't think that I've seen the actual content.

Both Tom and I openly said so.

Again, sorry, this game has not been at the forefront of my mind.

But I also defended EMC early on because I didn't like the policy votes on him, and I don't think he's scum now.

It's great that Tom and HR are doing their best to protect players they think are town. In this case, I agree with them, but just wish they'd realize that we need to actually skill scum, not just protect EMC.

[Hellenic Riot]

I assume HR is trying to save EMC because he believe that EMC is town?

I don't think that I've seen the actual content.

Both Tom and I openly said so.

Again, sorry, this game has not been at the forefront of my mind.

But I also defended EMC early on because I didn't like the policy votes on him, and I don't think he's scum now.

It's great that Tom and HR are doing their best to protect players they think are town. In this case, I agree with them, but just wish they'd realize that we need to actually skill scum, not just protect EMC.

Well the difference is that I now believe I was wrong to defend emc, which I stated three phases ago prior to the whole virus timewaste yesterday. I'm not sure if Tom concurs or if he still townreads emc though

[Foxcastle]

Also @Foxcastle, why are you not voting?

Why do you think?

I am not in the business of asking rhetorical questions.

Are you kidding, Jamiet? Rhetoricalquestions.com is just a picture of you and all the times you as "What is this?" about other players' posts.

But I'm obviously going to vote to save myself. Just like I presume EMC is doing. I may think he's town, but I know I am, so I have to save that shot. But I think these are three town wagons. How many times has this happened now, where I've looked scummy and gone down in the end game? You've been there for a bunch of them, Jamiet.

[Hamilton Brian]

It's an interesting observation to suggest ghug is playing as though today/tomorrow is the end. Do I get that right? Miskill today, night kill puts the numbers at 5/5.

There's still game remaining.

I need to understand why Foxcastle is the leading wagon.
Is is a) meta, b) misleading, c) evasiveness, or d) other that's leading to such a vote?

I'm not crazy about my vote on EMC. I've been back and forth with it. I am also not confident in Foxcastle as the kill.

[Hamilton Brian]

@foxcastle, you think all three wagons are town? Then who would you put up instead?

[Foxcastle]

Jamiet, do you really believe that there's anything I could say to sway ghug and others? Because I don't think there is.

[Foxcastle]

@foxcastle, you think all three wagons are town? Then who would you put up instead?

Ghugh, peterlund, you, bismark.

[Foxcastle]

@foxcastle, you think all three wagons are town? Then who would you put up instead?

Ghugh, peterlund, you, bismark.

Oh, and yoyo.

[ghug]

@foxcastle, you think all three wagons are town? Then who would you put up instead?

Ghugh, peterlund, you, bismark.

Oh, and yoyo.

And he calls himself low-hanging fruit.


@HB, the game is over at 5-5, because the scum can prevent themselves from being daykilled.

[Ezio]

Why?

Because you and gold are the only identity-unknown players who voted emc day 3, and gold is right that it's unlikely nobody was busing.

What if emc is an important scum role though? There are certain scum roles they might look to protect more than others.

This line reads like a cheeky scum saying exactly what's been happening so far this game. Maybe Fox vs EMC is scum vs scum? If so, HR is scum.