Mafia 57 Matrix

[Nanook]

That’s not how it works lulz

Big cases don’t suddenly get better at KILO

[ghug]

So now that I am back and can actually post decently,

@nanook, what evidence do you have that the following are scum?

Myself (and something beyond the "posting immediately after I posted means they're scum).

Foxcastle?

Bo?

How do you feel about Jamie's work around HR? Think that's a solid enough case to vote for HR Day 6?

I don’t do big cases, I explicitly believe they’re bad

Smartest thing you've said all game.

[Hellenic Riot]

Good job Bunny, 3P wins are nice (even if this does seem like a very easy one to win as).


@Hamilton

I responded to Jamie's 'case' already, and both myself and ghug have debunked the complete logic flaws present in his argument that I was goading TFB when TFB wasn't here (and as every 'Hi emc' post that ghug made attested to, people do not stick around in that tracker at the bottom for long). So what exactly do you find so convincing about said case?

[Hamilton Brian]

Macca/Temasek might be considered easy to pick on, but I'll work through the exercise.

Day 1, Macca gets called out for trying too hard to not appear to be scummy by Bunny. 4 posts that day didn't amount to a significant change.

Temasek comes in to replace and offers the "I guess I'll catch up" on Night 1.

Day 2, jumps in with only a few posts to ask about RHK getting wagoned, gets told by Jamie because of Damo, and then that's it.

Night 2: "Oh dear, not looking good for us town now... finally understood the setup at least after all that posting." Does that not come across as trite and minimizing? Perhaps the thought is to say something, anything, and quickly scoot back out of the picture.

Day 3: An active day from Temasek; some conversation around meta behaviour. Starts on a wagon for EMC but then shifts it to Bismarck upon the declaration that the EMC wagon had no traction. They're vote for EMC is the second vote, while their vote for Bismarck is decided with 12 hours to go.

Night 3: Reaction to the kill is that there was a lot of movement; going to go try to catch up.

Day 4: Drops a vote on therul based on a "sketchy" post. I re-read therul's post...I think it was genuinely to make sense of the set-up. Not as unseemly to me. Vote stays there all day. Did they plant it on someone safe? Assuming other active scum would run up a case for another wagon? And RDR was that wagon, and that's going to be another hunt.

Night 4: No posts.

I think Temasek is scum; having a hard time playing it so laying VERY low, probably benefiting from that all day open QT that scum have.

[Hamilton Brian]

Good job Bunny, 3P wins are nice (even if this does seem like a very easy one to win as).


@Hamilton

I responded to Jamie's 'case' already, and both myself and ghug have debunked the complete logic flaws present in his argument that I was goading TFB when TFB wasn't here (and as every 'Hi emc' post that ghug made attested to, people do not stick around in that tracker at the bottom for long). So what exactly do you find so convincing about said case?

Let me spend some time working through it again; I want to re-read the debunkings, especially from ghug. There's little I am sold on and the well-written, spelled-out arguments have a way of convincing than the "I feel like so and so is scum..."

[dargorygel]

##GM note
For the bot
BunnyGo has died. He was the 3P virus and WON

[goldfinger0303]

Got them, Nanook. Had to read a bit further back

Gold, do you think my assessment of you as the sort of person who would make those posts in the Bunny QT is a fair one?

You mean posting movie quotes? Yeah I do that all the time.

I personally had some good Obi-wan ones lined up in case our JOAT killed an inno with their shots. But alas, bozo died too soon.

[ghug]

Good job Bunny, 3P wins are nice (even if this does seem like a very easy one to win as).


@Hamilton

I responded to Jamie's 'case' already, and both myself and ghug have debunked the complete logic flaws present in his argument that I was goading TFB when TFB wasn't here (and as every 'Hi emc' post that ghug made attested to, people do not stick around in that tracker at the bottom for long). So what exactly do you find so convincing about said case?

It's a little disingenuous to just say I debunked it when I also said I agreed with large chunks of it.

[ghug]

Got them, Nanook. Had to read a bit further back

Gold, do you think my assessment of you as the sort of person who would make those posts in the Bunny QT is a fair one?

You mean posting movie quotes? Yeah I do that all the time.

I personally had some good Obi-wan ones lined up in case our JOAT killed an inno with their shots. But alas, bozo died too soon.

How about doing it in the scum QT?

[Jamiet99uk]

Good job Bunny, 3P wins are nice (even if this does seem like a very easy one to win as).


@Hamilton

I responded to Jamie's 'case' already, and both myself and ghug have debunked the complete logic flaws present in his argument that I was goading TFB when TFB wasn't here (and as every 'Hi emc' post that ghug made attested to, people do not stick around in that tracker at the bottom for long). So what exactly do you find so convincing about said case?

Your responses nit-pick at details because you can't argue with the fact that you aggressively pushed two mis-removals in a row for really, really crappy reasons. Timestamps or not, your reason for pushing TFB to his death was really weak and you repeatedly shouted about him not answering to give the wagon traction it would not otherwise have had.

You have also not properly addressed my observation that you repeatedly voted and pushed counter-wagons to EMC, for the explicit reason of saving EMC, and yet when you gave your reads, EMC didn't feature among your townreads.

I can't remember seeing someone go to such great efforts to save the life of a null read.

[ghug]

Good job Bunny, 3P wins are nice (even if this does seem like a very easy one to win as).


@Hamilton

I responded to Jamie's 'case' already, and both myself and ghug have debunked the complete logic flaws present in his argument that I was goading TFB when TFB wasn't here (and as every 'Hi emc' post that ghug made attested to, people do not stick around in that tracker at the bottom for long). So what exactly do you find so convincing about said case?

Your responses nit-pick at details because you can't argue with the fact that you aggressively pushed two mis-removals in a row for really, really crappy reasons. Timestamps or not, your reason for pushing TFB to his death was really weak and you repeatedly shouted about him not answering to give the wagon traction it would not otherwise have had.

You have also not properly addressed my observation that you repeatedly voted and pushed counter-wagons to EMC, for the explicit reason of saving EMC, and yet when you gave your reads, EMC didn't feature among your townreads.

I can't remember seeing someone go to such great efforts to save the life of a null read.

I would like to hear an answer to this.

[goldfinger0303]

Gold, do you think my assessment of you as the sort of person who would make those posts in the Bunny QT is a fair one?

You mean posting movie quotes? Yeah I do that all the time.

I personally had some good Obi-wan ones lined up in case our JOAT killed an inno with their shots. But alas, bozo died too soon.

How about doing it in the scum QT?

Most certainly. Especially if it outs me to the townies so that I can bring my real comedy prowess to the God QT where it belongs.

In seriousness, if I'm in a QT I'm all business. You can ask Nanook while he's still here. No jokes.

[ghug]

You mean posting movie quotes? Yeah I do that all the time.

I personally had some good Obi-wan ones lined up in case our JOAT killed an inno with their shots. But alas, bozo died too soon.

How about doing it in the scum QT?

Most certainly. Especially if it outs me to the townies so that I can bring my real comedy prowess to the God QT where it belongs.

In seriousness, if I'm in a QT I'm all business. You can ask Nanook while he's still here. No jokes.

The correct answer was "yeah I'd totally do that". Sorry. Thanks for paying.

[Hellenic Riot]

Good job Bunny, 3P wins are nice (even if this does seem like a very easy one to win as).


@Hamilton

I responded to Jamie's 'case' already, and both myself and ghug have debunked the complete logic flaws present in his argument that I was goading TFB when TFB wasn't here (and as every 'Hi emc' post that ghug made attested to, people do not stick around in that tracker at the bottom for long). So what exactly do you find so convincing about said case?

Your responses nit-pick at details because you can't argue with the fact that you aggressively pushed two mis-removals in a row for really, really crappy reasons. Timestamps or not, your reason for pushing TFB to his death was really weak and you repeatedly shouted about him not answering to give the wagon traction it would not otherwise have had.

You have also not properly addressed my observation that you repeatedly voted and pushed counter-wagons to EMC, for the explicit reason of saving EMC, and yet when you gave your reads, EMC didn't feature among your townreads.

I can't remember seeing someone go to such great efforts to save the life of a null read.

I explicitly townread emc N1 because I thought the wagon on him was co-ordinated by the scum. After Damo outed himself as being on the Neb D2, that took on a new perspective and while I still thought the wagon on him was co-ordinated, I switched to townreading Bunny & Goldie because I thought it was co-ordinated by the Neb - at which point I no longer had a reason to townread emc either. But the more I asked why people scumread emc and the more people dodged or failed to provide an explanation, the more annoyed I got, so I was inclined to dig my heels in until someone actually came up with any sort of case. (I also refused to explain this before the people on the ship were revealed for obvious reasons).

As for deliberately pushing a wagon - yes. I do that when I think someone is scum. And after the antics you pulled when you couldn't get me voted at the start of yesterday, I think it's really a case of the pot calling thte kettle black.

[goldfinger0303]

How about doing it in the scum QT?

Most certainly. Especially if it outs me to the townies so that I can bring my real comedy prowess to the God QT where it belongs.

In seriousness, if I'm in a QT I'm all business. You can ask Nanook while he's still here. No jokes.

The correct answer was "yeah I'd totally do that". Sorry. Thanks for paying.

Do I at least get partial credit, teacher?

[ghug]

Most certainly. Especially if it outs me to the townies so that I can bring my real comedy prowess to the God QT where it belongs.

In seriousness, if I'm in a QT I'm all business. You can ask Nanook while he's still here. No jokes.

The correct answer was "yeah I'd totally do that". Sorry. Thanks for paying.

Do I at least get partial credit, teacher?

No, but you can see me after class.

[ghug]

Good job Bunny, 3P wins are nice (even if this does seem like a very easy one to win as).


@Hamilton

I responded to Jamie's 'case' already, and both myself and ghug have debunked the complete logic flaws present in his argument that I was goading TFB when TFB wasn't here (and as every 'Hi emc' post that ghug made attested to, people do not stick around in that tracker at the bottom for long). So what exactly do you find so convincing about said case?

Your responses nit-pick at details because you can't argue with the fact that you aggressively pushed two mis-removals in a row for really, really crappy reasons. Timestamps or not, your reason for pushing TFB to his death was really weak and you repeatedly shouted about him not answering to give the wagon traction it would not otherwise have had.

You have also not properly addressed my observation that you repeatedly voted and pushed counter-wagons to EMC, for the explicit reason of saving EMC, and yet when you gave your reads, EMC didn't feature among your townreads.

I can't remember seeing someone go to such great efforts to save the life of a null read.

I explicitly townread emc N1 because I thought the wagon on him was co-ordinated by the scum. After Damo outed himself as being on the Neb D2, that took on a new perspective and while I still thought the wagon on him was co-ordinated, I switched to townreading Bunny & Goldie because I thought it was co-ordinated by the Neb - at which point I no longer had a reason to townread emc either. But the more I asked why people scumread emc and the more people dodged or failed to provide an explanation, the more annoyed I got, so I was inclined to dig my heels in until someone actually came up with any sort of case. (I also refused to explain this before the people on the ship were revealed for obvious reasons).

As for deliberately pushing a wagon - yes. I do that when I think someone is scum. And after the antics you pulled when you couldn't get me voted at the start of yesterday, I think it's really a case of the pot calling thte kettle black.

You thought it was coordinated by the neb and you townread two people for it?

[Hellenic Riot]

Your responses nit-pick at details because you can't argue with the fact that you aggressively pushed two mis-removals in a row for really, really crappy reasons. Timestamps or not, your reason for pushing TFB to his death was really weak and you repeatedly shouted about him not answering to give the wagon traction it would not otherwise have had.

You have also not properly addressed my observation that you repeatedly voted and pushed counter-wagons to EMC, for the explicit reason of saving EMC, and yet when you gave your reads, EMC didn't feature among your townreads.

I can't remember seeing someone go to such great efforts to save the life of a null read.

I explicitly townread emc N1 because I thought the wagon on him was co-ordinated by the scum. After Damo outed himself as being on the Neb D2, that took on a new perspective and while I still thought the wagon on him was co-ordinated, I switched to townreading Bunny & Goldie because I thought it was co-ordinated by the Neb - at which point I no longer had a reason to townread emc either. But the more I asked why people scumread emc and the more people dodged or failed to provide an explanation, the more annoyed I got, so I was inclined to dig my heels in until someone actually came up with any sort of case. (I also refused to explain this before the people on the ship were revealed for obvious reasons).

As for deliberately pushing a wagon - yes. I do that when I think someone is scum. And after the antics you pulled when you couldn't get me voted at the start of yesterday, I think it's really a case of the pot calling thte kettle black.

You thought it was coordinated by the neb and you townread two people for it?

If you'd like to explain how there could have been a scum D1, I'm all ears.

[Hellenic Riot]

*Scum on the Neb

[goldfinger0303]

The correct answer was "yeah I'd totally do that". Sorry. Thanks for paying.

Do I at least get partial credit, teacher?

No, but you can see me after class.

Should I lock the door, as usual