MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[xorxes]

I'm not sure yet.

How many do you think you would have gotten on the first pass pre-reads list?

A lot fewer probably.

[TrPrado]

That nap was probably a bad choice.

I'm not sure yet.

How many do you think you would have gotten on the first pass pre-reads list?

So you made a test before deciding how you'd judge the test?

[rdrivera2005]

I am feeling weird, Ghug seems o be the most logical player around. I also find that Balki is being Balki and Xorxes list weird as hell, but no necessarily scummy (scum usually don't want to be bound to a read list unless it's needed).

[TrPrado]

Are you really going to make an issue of me posting a reads list im the middle of D1? I just wanted something to do, I copied the players list from the first post and wrote my reads, what's the big deal? And no, I probably didn't do it before, not that I remember, so what? Are you going to say I'm breaking my meta?

I'm suddenly torn because I actually kind of like this explanation even though I disagree with it to hell.

What exactly were you hoping to accomplish with a reads list that had just one and a half scum reads out of a team of 5?

[TrPrado]

##CALL GM

Have you informed Stressedlines that the game is going?

[snowy801]

I just wanted to point out that I live in an NJ landfill

[TrPrado]

I just wanted to point out that I live in an NJ landfill

Thank you for your significant contribution.

[rdrivera2005]

Ok, I was doing a second read on Xorxes reads list and found this:

21. Yavuzovic
Not sure. Seems ok, but I think his scum persona is very similar to his town one.

This so utterly bullshit that I can´t believe town Xorxes wrote this.

[TrPrado]

Ok, I was doing a second read on Xorxes reads list and found this:

21. Yavuzovic
Not sure. Seems ok, but I think his scum persona is very similar to his town one.

This so utterly bullshit that I can´t believe town Xorxes wrote this.

What's particularly bullshit about it, in your mind?

[snowy801]

I just wanted to point out that I live in an NJ landfill

Thank you for your significant contribution.

you know it

[ghug]

That nap was probably a bad choice.

I'm not sure yet.

How many do you think you would have gotten on the first pass pre-reads list?

So you made a test before deciding how you'd judge the test?

Yep.

[RagingIke297]

I feel like I need to change my vote to either Thamrick or Snowy, Thamrick is a higher conviction pick right now but the fact that 80%+ of what snowy has said is fluff and filler irks me. If Thamrick doesn't take off I'll be watching the snowy wagon.

##vote Thamrick

[Tom Bombadil]

##CALL GM

Have you informed Stressedlines that the game is going?

Yes. I will follow up again

[teacher2]

So a long and detailed catchup post. TBH, these are more notes for myself to come back to. My perspective quite often changes based on gameplay developments and VCA/Wagon analysis, but this helps me to note changes in playstyle or at least remember how the board felt in near-real time so as to evaluate later claimed explanations of actions for consistency with my gestalt of the board.

So much though I don’t know what to do with Xorxes, I love providing thoughts on all slots. If ALL town would do this, it becomes incredibly hard for mafia to credibly hide by D3.

PbPA[spoiler]Right now I have 3 towns, 9 town leans, 5 nulls, 1 modkill, and 3 scumleans.

• Balki:Active, but strongly (and to me strangely) tunneled on Ike. I get that they have shared WebDip mafia history, so maybe Im missing some meta here, but Id like some action outside tunnel. (aside @xorxes – I don’t know how you can possibly say Balki doesn’t originate suspicions, when he was the first Ike vote and push). Null.
• Bozo: Two posts, with one sentence explanations of votes (including RVS on silent slot). Believe claim regarding Ezio’s meta though, because others (incl. dargorygel) said same. Townlean with lurk noted.
• Chaqa: Lurking is NAI with meta; one post is a page 7 vote on ghug claiming randomness, but starts a flashwagon where ghug went from one vote to five within 1.5 hours, only to as quickly drop. Scum PR hunting possibly? Null.
• Dargorygel: Active poster, and newb!me appreciates the meta info, as well as guiding town out of RVS. Townlean.
• Demon: My favorite player. I like his reads and questions, and when he has gotten them. Plus lead votes in a way that is not mislynch hunting. Can you elaborate on early snowy being agro compared to meta? town.
• DrCJG: Very interesting first post. Promised active questions, but has only asked one. I can grok the TrPrado vote, though I find it interesting that this is the second TrPrado wagon of day, with mostly different players. Null.
• Ezio: Already posted my analysis. Meta info that he would ordinarily defend nolynch makes slight scumlean.
• Ghug: Active, but emptyish start of game. Like his reaction to flashwagon, and the response to Xorxes try-hard readslist, which also struck me as an effort to look town, but dislike DemonRHK read. Too experienced to really read, but townlean.
• Jamie: Active, solvish start of game. I like his reads and his pressure to participate. Only a townlean because of experience.
• PeterLund: Entrance to game comes after RVS, but focuses mostly on meta issues rather than anything on this board. Seems to be intentionally not providing info nor seeking it. Slight scumlean.
• RagingIke: I like unnecessary admission of error in RVS process, and yavu/xorxes/Jamie questions. I found the gun question odd, but could grok the reasons behind it. Love the oxford comma and ghug flashwagon questions. Town
• RdRivera:I like his reads, when he gets them, and his consistency so far. Not enough posts for stronger than a townlean though.
• Reedeer: Promised activity, but hasn’t carried through. Xorxes’s hidden vote here was weird. Null, but willing to vote for pressure.
• Snowy: Very active, but very empty start. Apparently that’s consistent with meta though. Part of GHug flash wagon. Null.
• Stressed:Modkill.
• Teacher: Dirtbag.
• Telamor: One post to join a TrPrado wagon. Xorxes vote here seems even more buddying of TrPrado. Newb gets benefit of doubt that he is trying to understand game. What is your experience level? Townlean.
• Thamrick: Like the early questions and share the reads. Townlean because low activity.
• TrPrado: Interesting target of two wagons, and lots of interactions. Puzzled by response to Ike’s question. But I like when he got off GHug, why he moved to Xorxes, and his day in general. Townlean.
• Xorxes: HARD buddying TrPrado early, with chainsaw defense twice. Returns, sees suspicions, and posts a try-hard readlist with some questionable analysis (Balki, and apparently Yavu by meta – can someone confirm this?). Notably that list again twice buddies Prado with Lund and Telamor. Scumlean.
• Yazu: Was active and earlier struck me as solvey, but less so on a second ISO. Part of Ghug flashwagon. Am trusting the meta by others to townlean, but Id like some confirmation.

[/spoiler]
So that list is way to scumsided for this setup, but its where Im at given play so far. My lynch/compromise pool at this point is (Xorxes, PeterLund, Ezio, Reedeer, Snowy). In light of the current vote distribution, Im going to move to Ezio to heighten the participation pressure.

But I want the board to provide some more meta info on Yazu to better sort both him and Xorxes. I also would like Telamor and Demon to respond to the spoiled questions.

Future self-so far the most interesting voting has been the two separate TrPrado wagons and the Ghug flashwagons.

PostDraft: Ike - why the Thamrick scumread?

[teacher2]

##Vote Ezio

[snowy801]

wait I have a wagon?

[teacher2]

wait I have a wagon?

had. Past tense. Ghug is down to 3rd place now, behind Ezio on votes and TrPrado on vote age. Play more?

[snowy801]

just because you can't comprehend my play doesn't mean I'm not playing my friend

[ghug]

The fact that you're not playing means you're not playing though.

[ghug]

Teacher's gonna be annoying to read.