Mafia 57 Matrix

[ghug]

Can we kill bo pretty please?

[BunnyGo]

The biggest thing throwing me off here is that scum clearly were aiming away from the virus, which I don’t entirely understand tbh. So it’s really kinda messing with my assessments.

Were they? It seems like you and Bunny were the options and they were targeting night actions on both of you.

I got roleblocked two nights in a row so

No reason to do that unless they think I’m virus yeah?

Umm...not to leak intel (and everyone with half a brain should know this intel already), but the first RB doesn't implicate anyone on the ship.

The fact you told me to hold the NK that night was a fakeout to the scum team.

[Jamiet99uk]

Time to catch up following last night's raging.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok I'm caught up.

Why have so many people not posted? Weird.

@BismarckAlive
@Foxcastle
@Hamilton Brian
@Temasek22
@therul

- What is your reaction to the latest events?

- Do you think we should remove BunnyGo now, or follow Goldfinger's plan so that we get one more shot?

- What are your thoughts regarding my case on HR being scum?

Participation, ladies and gentlemen, please!

[Jamiet99uk]

Can we kill bo pretty please?

Why do you think Bo_Sox is scum?

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE
Vote Count 5.1

BunnyGo (3) ghug, bunny, HR
Jamiet99uk (1) Nanook
Unvote (1) Jamie

If the day ended now, BunnyGo would be gone.

People not expressing their pleasure/displeasure
Bismarck, bo, emc, Fox, goldie, HB, tem, therulianister, TomBomb

More time than I have fingers and toes to count with left in the day.

[Jamiet99uk]

On reflection I don't think Goldfinger's anti-virus plan makes sense.

If we keep Bunny alive only to kill him with anti-virus, and he knows that's our plan, what motivation does Bunny have to use that final shot to try to hit scum?

More likely, Vengeful Bunny would try to shoot a confirmed Town to spite us for not letting him win today.

It seems like ##VOTE BUNNYGO is the only sensible result.

If you disagree, Goldfinger, do explain why you think Bunny would be motivated to use his last kill to help town, at the same time as being screwed out of a win?

[Foxcastle]

Why have so many people not posted?

Oh, I looked at the thread last night, but you were being abusive and then threatening to ragequit if anyone snarked at you, so I decided I'd rather not even bother.

I appreciate that you are often a voice in support of keeping things civil, but fuck, Jamie, when you go off the rails, you are the worst.

[Foxcastle]

I do not want to hand BunnyGo his win condition. It means we're one kill closer to a total town loss. But I see the point that if we don't cooperate with him, he could just ally with scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why have so many people not posted?

Oh, I looked at the thread last night, but you were being abusive and then threatening to ragequit if anyone snarked at you, so I decided I'd rather not even bother.

I appreciate that you are often a voice in support of keeping things civil, but fuck, Jamie, when you go off the rails, you are the worst.

Fair comment. Sorry.

[Jamiet99uk]

I do not want to hand BunnyGo his win condition. It means we're one kill closer to a total town loss. But I see the point that if we don't cooperate with him, he could just ally with scum.

I understand your feelings. So what do you think we should do?

[Tom Bombadil]

On reflection I don't think Goldfinger's anti-virus plan makes sense.

If we keep Bunny alive only to kill him with anti-virus, and he knows that's our plan, what motivation does Bunny have to use that final shot to try to hit scum?

More likely, Vengeful Bunny would try to shoot a confirmed Town to spite us for not letting him win today.

It seems like ##VOTE BUNNYGO is the only sensible result.

If you disagree, Goldfinger, do explain why you think Bunny would be motivated to use his last kill to help town, at the same time as being screwed out of a win?

Unless I am missing something, anti-virusing Bunny will cause him to not have a final shot as he would be eliminated before then.

The risk reward is we get a potential extra day to vote out scum if we take the risk of having a town majority on the ship.

[Jamiet99uk]

On reflection I don't think Goldfinger's anti-virus plan makes sense.

If we keep Bunny alive only to kill him with anti-virus, and he knows that's our plan, what motivation does Bunny have to use that final shot to try to hit scum?

More likely, Vengeful Bunny would try to shoot a confirmed Town to spite us for not letting him win today.

It seems like ##VOTE BUNNYGO is the only sensible result.

If you disagree, Goldfinger, do explain why you think Bunny would be motivated to use his last kill to help town, at the same time as being screwed out of a win?

Unless I am missing something, anti-virusing Bunny will cause him to not have a final shot as he would be eliminated before then.

The risk reward is we get a potential extra day to vote out scum if we take the risk of having a town majority on the ship.

Ohhh.

Sorry, you have it right.

I was mis-interpreting Goldfinger's use of the term "shot" to imply that leaving Bunny alive would cause *Bunny* to have one more shot. What Goldfinger actually meant, on re-reading it just now, is that we'd get an extra "shot" at voting for scum.

Okay.

[Jamiet99uk]

It seems like Nanook has indicated a serious fear that there is not a town majority on the ship.

Since Nanook refuses to clarify further, the only safe thing is to vote Bunny today, surely?

[BismarckAlive]

If BunnyGo is the Virus, I implore Town to vote someone else! And the NEB occupants to negotiate hard with him to try to kill scum overnight. We don't want that potential source of mafia kills to disappear, now we don't have much wiggle room for mis-kills.
I now town!read most people I previously scum!read after re-reading thread chunks, other people's analyses and also re-analysing vote counts.
Hence, I would like Town to consider putting HR and ghug up for the D4 daykill.

##vote ghug

Strong scum vibes hit me from that source, but also from HR.

[Jamiet99uk]

If BunnyGo is the Virus, I implore Town to vote someone else! And the NEB occupants to negotiate hard with him to try to kill scum overnight. We don't want that potential source of mafia kills to disappear, now we don't have much wiggle room for mis-kills.
I now town!read most people I previously scum!read after re-reading thread chunks, other people's analyses and also re-analysing vote counts.
Hence, I would like Town to consider putting HR and ghug up for the D4 daykill.

##vote ghug

Strong scum vibes hit me from that source, but also from HR.

You are right about HR. He is definitely scum.

Tell us more about why Ghug is scum?

[BismarckAlive]

Ok I'm caught up.

Why have so many people not posted? Weird.

@BismarckAlive
@Foxcastle
@Hamilton Brian
@Temasek22
@therul

- What is your reaction to the latest events?

- Do you think we should remove BunnyGo now, or follow Goldfinger's plan so that we get one more shot?

- What are your thoughts regarding my case on HR being scum?

Participation, ladies and gentlemen, please!

I was away again with wifey, and nowhere near a computer. It is now 1:17am and time to sleep, but will participate more tomorrow.

[ghug]

It occurs to me that if bunny doesn't win, the chances of the extra kill scum getting redpilled at some point is really high.

I scumread bo because Nanook trusts him with his life.

I find the delayed response from Hamilton very problematic, because it seems likely he's being coached if he is scum, and I townread pretty much everyone who's been around.

Bismarck is garbage.

[Jamiet99uk]

It occurs to me that if bunny doesn't win, the chances of the extra kill scum getting redpilled at some point is really high.

This is a legitimate concern. If that happens the game is over. Town is already losing badly but that would seal the deal one turn quicker.

[Jamiet99uk]

I scumread bo because Nanook trusts him with his life.

Could you explain this?