Mafia 57 Matrix

[Jamiet99uk]

I refuse to vote for Bunny until I see two things:

1) I want to see a proper fucking explanation of all the things you guys are talking about. Assume my intelligence is fairly limited. Several of you hate me and think I'm an imbecile so that shouldn't be too much of a fucking ask.

2) Beyond all this Third Party shit, I would like responses to my detailed case on HR. Nearly none of you responded to it. Even if we hang Bunny, the game will not end there and we will still need to catch the scum. HR is scum and I'd like reactions to that.

I literally just quoted the explanation on why we have to kill the virus.

Would KILO be tomorrow?

[Hellenic Riot]

Alright, let's math it out.


Currently we have 5 Scum, 1 Virus, and 8 town alive.

If we lynch a town on the ship tonight, that gives us 5 Scum, 1 Virus, 7 town. You can use the antivirus, and the scum can kill a town, so we end up in KILO of 5 scum vs 6 town tomorrow - and if you ever redpill the scum role that gets an extra NK, we lose automatically. No ifs or buts.

If we lynch a scum on the ship, that gives us 4 scum, 1 virus, 8 town, You use the AV for 4 scum vs 7 town. Scum can still get the bonus kill to knock it down to MILO.

If we lynch the virus today, we have 5 scum vs 8 town. Becomes 5 scum vs 7 town after tonight - and we have to keep dayvoting in case you ever give scum that bonus NK.

It looks to me like unless we get incredibly lucky and eliminate the bonus kill scum role today, the odds are pretty much the same even if the risk pays off, and of course we just outright lose if it doesn't.

And this explains the other options we have, Jamie.

[Nanook]

Find a better use for your time than arguing the past with confirmed town please

How is Nanook confirmed town?

If this is answered with *abuse* and not useful information, I will ask to sub out. I am not fucking with you. I have had it with you people being toxic towards me.

Cause I am

[ghug]

I refuse to vote for Bunny until I see two things:

1) I want to see a proper fucking explanation of all the things you guys are talking about. Assume my intelligence is fairly limited. Several of you hate me and think I'm an imbecile so that shouldn't be too much of a fucking ask.

2) Beyond all this Third Party shit, I would like responses to my detailed case on HR. Nearly none of you responded to it. Even if we hang Bunny, the game will not end there and we will still need to catch the scum. HR is scum and I'd like reactions to that.

Nanook (dumbass) is on the ship. He knew bunny (fellow dumbass) was the virus already. The only way the night ends without a kill is scum hitting the virus. Bunny acknowledges he is the virus and asks us to [redact] him, which only makes any sense if he is indeed the virus, and was indeed targeted by the mafia last night.

Since he's in his final state, if we get to KILO with him still alive, he and the mafia combined have a majority, and will all vote to kill him, because that will allow all of them to win.

[ghug]

Nanook, do you really trust bo with your life?

[Nanook]

Why should we vote for you?

Why shouldn't we just fuck you off?

Town loses.

Nanook knows everything I do. He knows that he does too.

I defer to his judgement.

He should be captain here. Not me. If he doesn’t want me leaking intel, I won’t.

Yeh please don’t

We’re not talking about red pills until night phase lol

[Nanook]

Nanook, do you really trust bo with your life?

Honestly

I don’t know, maybe

The more I think about it the more I think I don’t lol

[ghug]

Nanook, do you really trust bo with your life?

Honestly

I don’t know, maybe

The more I think about it the more I think I don’t lol

Cause like I'm sure I'm missing something but it also feels like there should be someone that you specifically mistrust right now.

[ghug]

Jamie, re:HR, I'm starting to doubt my scumread given how the day started.

[ghug]

Hi emc

[Jamiet99uk]

I refuse to vote for Bunny until I see two things:

1) I want to see a proper fucking explanation of all the things you guys are talking about. Assume my intelligence is fairly limited. Several of you hate me and think I'm an imbecile so that shouldn't be too much of a fucking ask.

2) Beyond all this Third Party shit, I would like responses to my detailed case on HR. Nearly none of you responded to it. Even if we hang Bunny, the game will not end there and we will still need to catch the scum. HR is scum and I'd like reactions to that.

Nanook (dumbass) is on the ship. He knew bunny (fellow dumbass) was the virus already. The only way the night ends without a kill is scum hitting the virus. Bunny acknowledges he is the virus and asks us to [redact] him, which only makes any sense if he is indeed the virus, and was indeed targeted by the mafia last night.

Since he's in his final state, if we get to KILO with him still alive, he and the mafia combined have a majority, and will all vote to kill him, because that will allow all of them to win.

Alright then. Thank you Ghug. This makes sense.

In that case it appears Nanook is nervous that someone who is Scum was given a red pill.

Shouldn't Nanook declare who that is?

Again, I say that whether or not we lynch the 3P today, we still need to catch the scum. I remain certain that HR is scum and would like to talk about that. We have all day.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie, re:HR, I'm starting to doubt my scumread given how the day started.

I am sure that HR is scum and I have given a chapter, verse, page number and footnote level case on that. Prove me wrong.

[ghug]

I refuse to vote for Bunny until I see two things:

1) I want to see a proper fucking explanation of all the things you guys are talking about. Assume my intelligence is fairly limited. Several of you hate me and think I'm an imbecile so that shouldn't be too much of a fucking ask.

2) Beyond all this Third Party shit, I would like responses to my detailed case on HR. Nearly none of you responded to it. Even if we hang Bunny, the game will not end there and we will still need to catch the scum. HR is scum and I'd like reactions to that.

Nanook (dumbass) is on the ship. He knew bunny (fellow dumbass) was the virus already. The only way the night ends without a kill is scum hitting the virus. Bunny acknowledges he is the virus and asks us to [redact] him, which only makes any sense if he is indeed the virus, and was indeed targeted by the mafia last night.

Since he's in his final state, if we get to KILO with him still alive, he and the mafia combined have a majority, and will all vote to kill him, because that will allow all of them to win.

Alright then. Thank you Ghug. This makes sense.

In that case it appears Nanook is nervous that someone who is Scum was given a red pill.

Shouldn't Nanook declare who that is?

Again, I say that whether or not we lynch the 3P today, we still need to catch the scum. I remain certain that HR is scum and would like to talk about that. We have all day.

Talking doesn't really accomplish anything unless people are voting, IMO.

[goldfinger0303]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

But if we use the anti-viral on Bunny, don't we have an extra daykill?

8-5-1 currently, yeah?

Kill Bunny - 7-5 KILO guaranteed.

But if we anti-viral Bunny (I think this goes off before the shot)
Let's say we miss on today's daykill - 7-5-1
Then tomorrow it's a 6-5 KILO

I'd rather have two shots at getting scum than one, if you ask me.

[Jamiet99uk]

Nanook (dumbass) is on the ship. He knew bunny (fellow dumbass) was the virus already. The only way the night ends without a kill is scum hitting the virus. Bunny acknowledges he is the virus and asks us to [redact] him, which only makes any sense if he is indeed the virus, and was indeed targeted by the mafia last night.

Since he's in his final state, if we get to KILO with him still alive, he and the mafia combined have a majority, and will all vote to kill him, because that will allow all of them to win.

Alright then. Thank you Ghug. This makes sense.

In that case it appears Nanook is nervous that someone who is Scum was given a red pill.

Shouldn't Nanook declare who that is?

Again, I say that whether or not we lynch the 3P today, we still need to catch the scum. I remain certain that HR is scum and would like to talk about that. We have all day.

Talking doesn't really accomplish anything unless people are voting, IMO.

I fundamentally disagree with your opinion on this point.

But

to ease talking

##UNVOTE.

I won't vote Bunny yet to prevent scum trying to hammer before we've had a good, proper talk.

It's not like BunnyGo has a daykill.

I want BunnyGo to confirm who his kills were.

[Jamiet99uk]

And

##UNEND.

[Jamiet99uk]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

But if we use the anti-viral on Bunny, don't we have an extra daykill?

8-5-1 currently, yeah?

Kill Bunny - 7-5 KILO guaranteed.

But if we anti-viral Bunny (I think this goes off before the shot)
Let's say we miss on today's daykill - 7-5-1
Then tomorrow it's a 6-5 KILO

I'd rather have two shots at getting scum than one, if you ask me.

Well hey.

I agree with this.

[ghug]

Correct me if I'm wrong.

But if we use the anti-viral on Bunny, don't we have an extra daykill?

8-5-1 currently, yeah?

Kill Bunny - 7-5 KILO guaranteed.

But if we anti-viral Bunny (I think this goes off before the shot)
Let's say we miss on today's daykill - 7-5-1
Then tomorrow it's a 6-5 KILO

I'd rather have two shots at getting scum than one, if you ask me.

If there's two mafia on the boat, or one and they've lost someone besides damo they can vote with Bunny and make the antiviral not happen. Nanook seems to believe that there's a credible enough risk of that that we shouldn't do it.

[ghug]

Hi emc

[Jamiet99uk]

Let's lynch HR today and have the Ship people use the anti-viral tonight.

Sorry Bunny but what are you gonna do?