MAFIA XXXVI: ODDJOB'S REVENGE

[Balki Bartokomous]

Can you flesh this out more? Why does ghug "feel like scum" to you?

Don't you read my friend, I'm said I will be sleeping. Ask this again tomorrow. I read but I don't understand now.

Please do me a favor and tattoo the question on your forehead (or use a post-it note) so that neither one of us forgets.

[xorxes]

Balki, which of the players in this game would you most like to spend the night with, just the two of you?

Kate Upton, but only to read the articles.

Kate Upton is playing here? What's her username?

[Jamiet99uk]

While you are right that I am town, you are wrong that I have displayed any anger. I am very calm. Nothing in this game has angered me, apart perhaps from Ghug's body odour.

@Jamiet, seriously, calm down. No need to raise your voice or gesticulate wildly. It's just a game.

*GESTICULATING INTENSIFIES*

[ghug]

How does one tattoo a post-it note?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@xorxes, what would you expect Scum RagingIke to be doing on Day 1? Relatedly, what is alignment indicative about RagingIke's behavior so far?

I don't know, I would expect him to be less spur of the moment I guess.

You don't know??! Like, you haven't thought about it at all?

Why would he be less spur of the moment? Come on -- it's your read...I'm trying to understand. When I read Ike I see someone trying to be a part of the thread without really showing any conviction or follow-through with it. To me, that looks more like someone going through the motions of trying to look busy than someone actually trying to solve a puzzle.

You think Ike is town because he is reacting to things immediately and appearing to play more off the cuff? Does any post stand out to you in that way? And that's something you don't think Scum Ike would do? My general sense is that he's trying to participate. There is a possible town motivation and a possible scum motivation for that, and I think, as either alignment trying to do that, he would be "sput of the moment." I don't think scum generally plan everything they say, and count to five before they say it. I think that would be pretty unusual.

How strong is your Ike read?

Make me understand.

[Jamiet99uk]

How does one tattoo a post-it note?

Simple. Yavuzovic should get a tattoo of a picture of a post-it note with Balki's question written on it.

I'm sure that's what Balki meant.

[RagingIke297]

@Ike,

I'd like to see your top scumread, with 3 bullet points for why you think that person is most likely to flip scum. Also, please describe your level of confidence in that read.

I would say Thamrick due to the following

- In 75% of his posts so far he's buddying/defending/making connections me
-He voted Bozo without mentioning anything else about him
-Last game he asked more questions that talk about multiple peoples votes and their logic, so far he's only questioned you. Another Ex. he asked some why they cast an anchored vote last game which he is doing now this game

I would say right now I'm about 45-50% confident

[xorxes]

How strong is your Ike read?

Not very. None of my reads are very strong at this point, just first impressions.

[ghug]

Xorxes, how would you react to, say, Ike, posting a list of reads like that at this point in the game?

[ghug]

Who the fuck is Telamor?

Sounds like an elf. Telamor, are your ears pointy? Can you set me up with Luthien?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I would say Thamrick due to the following

(1) In 75% of his posts so far he's buddying/defending/making connections me
(2) He voted Bozo without mentioning anything else about him
(3) Last game he asked more questions that talk about multiple peoples votes and their logic, so far he's only questioned you. Another Ex. he asked some why they cast an anchored vote last game which he is doing now this game

I would say right now I'm about 45-50% confident [numbers added for ease of reference]

(1) I'm not sure what you mean by "buddying/defending/making connections." What do you mean by those things, and how are they alignment indicative? Is "buddying" just being polite or playful with others? I think Town Thamrick acts that way too, especially in the first 24 hours. Is defending just explaining why he thinks someone may be town, or disagreeing with someone else's scum read? How is that alignment indicative? And what the Hell is "making connections?

(2) Yeah, he did that. Pretty conspicuous huh? Is this really a part of your rationale? What is the motivation for Scum Thamrick to do that? I think Thamrick is a pretty good player. Do you agree? What is the strategy behind casting this Bozo vote?

(3) He has made 5 posts. In those posts, he asked questions of Balki, Snowy, reedeer, and Ike. So, it's just not true that he has only questioned Balki. And, he really has not participated much, so this observation seems awfully weak. I think it's valid to say that he has not participated much yet, and I'd be interested to hear if you think there is any alignment indicative conclusion we can draw from that, but I don't see one.

Still feel confident in this read? I don't understand your rationale. Please answer my questions above and support your read, or tell us how and why it's changed.

[xorxes]

Xorxes, how would you react to, say, Ike, posting a list of reads like that at this point in the game?

If they were as insightful as mine I would be very happy if everyone did it.

[xorxes]

Who the fuck is Telamor?

Sounds like an elf. Telamor, are your ears pointy? Can you set me up with Luthien?

Maybe _that's_ Kate Upton.

[TrPrado]

I missed you weirdos

[TrPrado]

Balki:

Could you foresee yourself jumping onto xorx if the Ike wagon doesn't blow up?

[DemonRHK]

Catching up from page 5:

Darg and Dr are both against random voting. Random voting is normally useless, but usefulness aside it is a town tactic.

@Dr: Since no one answered you, if you swap the dropdown to an old game and click on the individual phase, you can see the post/word counts for that specific phase.

teach attacks xorx's stance on Prado, and Rike defended him as well. teach follows that up with a weak snowy vote (IMO), then reedeer hedges Prado without joining the wagon.

Prado then doubles down by calling out xorx for getting called out by teach and then vanishing.

The entire whirlwind of activity around Prado is interesting.


I'm not feeling good about reedeer and xorx rn, and I'll back it up with a
##Vote reedeer
on the hedge mostly.

rd is on point and I feel good about what I've seen.

Balki playing dumb that buddying is NAI is strange as hell.

[xorxes]

Random voting is normally useless, but usefulness aside it is a town tactic.

What does that mean? If it is useless, how is it a town tactic? Isn't it much better for scum to hide behind a "random" vote that they don't need to justify?

[DemonRHK]

Random voting is normally useless, but usefulness aside it is a town tactic.

What does that mean? If it is useless, how is it a town tactic? Isn't it much better for scum to hide behind a "random" vote that they don't need to justify?

I feel that it's inherent uselessness is part of the beauty of it's town leanings.

[Jamiet99uk]

(1) I'm not sure what you mean by "buddying/defending/making connections." What do you mean by those things, and how are they alignment indicative? Is "buddying" just being polite or playful with others?
....

Balki, you are an experienced player at this game. Do you really expect us to believe that you don't know what buddying is?

[xorxes]

Random voting is normally useless, but usefulness aside it is a town tactic.

What does that mean? If it is useless, how is it a town tactic? Isn't it much better for scum to hide behind a "random" vote that they don't need to justify?

I feel that it's inherent uselessness is part of the beauty of it's town leanings.

Are you saying it's so obviously bad for town that no mafia would dare suggest it?