Mafia 57 Matrix

[BunnyGo]

Bunny: Bismarck, bo, Ghug, Gold
Ghug: Bunny, bo, Gold, Jamie
Gold: Bunny, bo, ghug, Jamie
Hellenic: Bunny, Hamilton Brian, therul, Tom Bombadil
Jamie: Bo_Sox 48, BismarckAlive, Ghug, Hamilton Brian
Therul: Bunny, EMC, Ghug, Jamie
Tom: Emc, Hellenic, Therul, "bunny or bo"

[BunnyGo]

So currently townread players by number of votes:

Bunny = 5
bo_sox48 = 5
Ghug = 4
Jamie = 3
Gold = 2
EMC = 2
Hamilton = 2
therul = 2
Bismarck = 2
Tom = 1
Hellenic = 1

[ghug]

Whoops wrong chat ignore

Where did you think you were chatting?

ignore

[BunnyGo]

Whoops wrong chat ignore

Where did you think you were chatting?

ignore

I was going to ignore it until you wrote "Whoops wrong chat" I'm very curious about what that meant.

[ghug]

Where did you think you were chatting?

ignore

I was going to ignore it until you wrote "Whoops wrong chat" I'm very curious about what that meant.

I meant to say it to my teammates in the mafia quicktopic, but I used the wrong tab.

[ghug]

If I had to put money on a scumteam right now (before writing the large post I'm about to write), it'd be:

Fox-emc-Tem-Bismarck-Riot

Other candidates for the last three spots are Tom-Nanook-therul. I'd have to be pretty hopelessly lost on a number of people for Fox and emc to be scum, I think, so I'm just gonna assume they are for a bit and analyze the days.

Day 1
With six minutes left, I voted for damo, to make it
5 damo
4 flash
4 summit
3 bunny

Jamie was alone on emc, bozo had two votes. I had been on summit and then started bouncing between the top wagons to try to get people moving because, as is so often the case, nothing was happening and I was bored.

In very quick succession Bunny (from summit), damo (from bozo), flash (from summit), and gold (from flash) moved to emc. Two of these people were confirmed town, I strongly townread the two that are alive, and most of the other wagons were on confirmed town. Combine this with how quickly it went down, and I doubt they were working to save anyone. There's an outside chance gold and Bunny were working to save Bunny, but I would argue that bunny was not at significant risk, and they hadn't done anything in the many minutes of still leading up to the rush.

Riot moves to flash, making it 5-4 emc-flash (plausibly a save of emc), and then bunny flips it. I don't think Bunny does this as scum regardless of emc's alignment, as it's way too bad of a look to start a wagon on scum and then save them minutes later, and there's no reason to put your neck on the line like that if both are town.

At the end of the day, live players' votes:
Flash - Tom, emc, HR, and Bunny (and almost me but I missed the deadline)
Damo - Bismarck
Bunny - bo, Fox, Hamilton
Summit - Nanook, therul, ghug

Day 2
Everybody voted for RHK so I'm not gonna bother. I analyzed in detail earlier. You can buy my book and read about it.

Day 3
With about an hour left, damo votes Riot, to give us:
6 emc (rdr, Hamilton, ghug, emc himself, gold, FlyingBoat)
3 Nanook (Jamie, Riot, bo)
3 Bismarck (therul, tem, tom)
2 Riot (Nanook, damo)

Bunny moves to Tem
Rivera moves to Riot, making it 5-3-3-3
Bunny moves to Riot (5-4-3-3)
emc moves to Riot (5-4 the other way now)
Riot moves to boat
Bunny moves Riot-Boat (4-4, boat at 3)
Fox moves Boat to Bismark, putting him in the tie for 4 as well
emc moves Riot-Boat (both now at 3, Bismarck and emc leading)
Damo moves Riot-Boat (boat now tied at 4)
Tom moves Bismarck-Boat, giving boat the lead
gold, ghug, Fox pile on in that order

First, Rivera, bunny and emc (town likely town, believed scum) move to Riot, following damo.
Then, Riot and Bunny move to boat, making that wagon viable. Fox jumps off boat at this point, to Bismarck, putting a third viable wagon on play.
emc and damo move to boat, killing the Riot wagon and putting the boat wagon fully into play.
Tom pushes the boat wagon over the edge, others pile on.

Couple of options here:
1. emc alone was saved (not Riot). A first attempt at this is a bunch of people piling on Riot; those relevant now are bunny and emc. Riot (town in this exercise) and Bunny make boat viable. emc's vote helps boat supplant Riot, and Tom puts the nail in the coffin. Bunny, Fox, and Tom look suspicious in this scenario.
2. emc and Riot were both saved. emc would have had to do a little bussing. Fox and Riot separately move to make new wagons viable. Here, Fox and Tom look the worst. Bunny helped make Riot viable before leaving, which wouldn't make much sense on a teammate.
3. Riot was saved, but not emc. Fox again put the Bismarck wagon in play, which looks bad. He's really the only one doing the saving if emc is town, so I'm eh on this one.
4. They're both town, Bismarck is scum. Fox looks good now. Emc still looks suspicious, now for saving Bismarck, which would bring us back to option one, so I'm eh on this one too.

I'm more into option 2. I think HR, Bismarck, and emc are probably not all scum together. Fox looks bad in all cases.

Day 3
I'm tired, maybe tomorrow.

[ghug]

That last one should be 4, huh?

Fox, emc, HR seem scummy. I don't think Bismarck is on their team anymore. I'm also reaffirmed in my Bunny read, and I'm starting to wonder if I'm wrong about bo, since his thing seems to just be an asshole to a couple people and not actually involve himself in any shenanigans.

[ghug]

So maybe Fox, emc, HR, bo, Tem? Nanook? Brian with a lazy emc bus? Fuck me.

[ghug]

@HR, I have a hard time seeing a scenario now where D3 happened and emc is town. That good enough for you? Care to wax a counteryarn?

[Jamiet99uk]

What a crappy EoD.

Should have flipped HR.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am not caught up and won't be for about 6 hours.

[BunnyGo]

So maybe Fox, emc, HR, bo, Tem? Nanook? Brian with a lazy emc bus? Fuck me.

Jamie?

[Jamiet99uk]

So maybe Fox, emc, HR, bo, Tem? Nanook? Brian with a lazy emc bus? Fuck me.

Jamie?

What?

[Jamiet99uk]

I would like to draw attention to something:

HR repeatedly shouted at me, demanding I address his "riposte" to my scumread on EMC.

When I did so, addressing him in considerable detail, he didn't acknowledge or respond to my post at all. He just moved on as if I hadn't said anything.

Pretty convinced HR and EMC are scum together.

[BunnyGo]

So maybe Fox, emc, HR, bo, Tem? Nanook? Brian with a lazy emc bus? Fuck me.

Jamie?

What?

Sorry I meant “I’m surprised Jamie isn’t on your (Ghug’s) possible scum team. “

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie?

What?

Sorry I meant “I’m surprised Jamie isn’t on your (Ghug’s) possible scum team. “

You think I am scum, Bunny?

Why?

[Jamiet99uk]

Really suspicious that BunnyGo isn't presenting a case on me and to my knowledge has never called for a wagon on me or voted for me, but is now softly encouraging *other* people to consider scumreading me.

That's super creepy behaviour.

Bunny, if you think I'm scum, come out here and say that, and present your reasons. Don't ask Ghug to do it for you.

[BunnyGo]

Really suspicious that BunnyGo isn't presenting a case on me and to my knowledge has never called for a wagon on me or voted for me, but is now softly encouraging *other* people to consider scumreading me.

That's super creepy behaviour.
Are
Bunny, if you think I'm scum, come out here and say that, and present your reasons. Don't ask Ghug to do it for you.

I’ve shaded you before. I’m wondering if your absence is faked. I’m wondering if your cases are lacking. I remember you as better than this. But I haven’t done a deep read yet.

[Tom Bombadil]

Have you played with scum Jamie before Bunny?

[bo_sox48]

I have, and I’ve seen scum Jamie take on enough personas to not assume he is only capable of playing mafia one way.