Mafia 57 Matrix

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE
OFFICIAL vote count (with more officiality than the wonderful Bot) 4.2

Temasek22 (4) Bunnyish, Foxyish, Therulyish, goldfingerish
Hellenic Riot (3) Nanook, rdrivera, Jamie
e.m.c^42 (2) Bismarck, Hamilton
BismarckAlive (2) TomBomb, bo
goldfinger0303 (1) emc
therul (1) Temasek
rdrivera2005 (1) HR
Foxcastle (1) ghug


One Hour and 26 minutes remain in this virtual day.

[Hamilton Brian]

The faith I had in my own thinking that my original 3 are scum is waning. I’m going to anchor a vote on HR. That should make some other wagons move. I’m more sold on Tem than HR but want to see the resulting movement.

##vote Hellenic Riot

[bo_sox48]

Everyone giving opinions freely but only Tom and I have altered our course to make things move...

[bo_sox48]

HB joining the party, cool

[ghug]

I can't shake the feeling that one of HR and Tom is pocketing the other, but I'm not sure which.

[BunnyGo]

Everyone giving opinions freely but only Tom and I have altered our course to make things move...

I tried that two days already. I’m happy with what I’ve seen.

[Tom Bombadil]

I can't shake the feeling that one of HR and Tom is pocketing the other, but I'm not sure which.

Well, I thought of that, but the reason I discounted it is because HR townread me for almost the exact reason as the last time we played together. He claims not to remember, and I believe him. I only remember because it was my first game of mafia and I thought I played poorly. It would be one thing for him to pocket me, but to pocket me using the same reasoning on the townread seems unlikely. It’s a large reason I townread him.

[rdrivera2005]

Wow, a two hour drive through no service and...I didn't miss anything.

Quickly, while I do have time. I think the emc and Bismarck wagons are bad ones.

Bismarck's reaction to his wagon D3 felt extremely towny and genuine. I don't think he is a good wagon for today after that.

Emc, while having wagons blow up and disappear on him twice, should not be voted for that reason. His D1 wagon is full of confirmed town and my town reads. The lead off his wagon D3 was led by confirmed town. Rdrivera, who immediately followed, is less clear. Therefore for reasons less because of emc's actions and more because of his wagons, I don't think he's a good target today.

HR seems a fair target. I asked for a case on him yesterday, because I hadn't really been able to sus anything out other than "he feels off". Please let me know why I should change my vote to him, someone. Someone other than rdrivera, because my inclination is currently the two might be scum bussing each other. HR just did it more convincingly, because my scum vibes are mainly coming from rdr. I just haven't had enough time to read into this to trust my gut over Bunny's.

HB and therul are both acting very newb, but in very different ways. Something to look into more.

Gold, care to explain why emc wagon D1 being full of confirmed town or your town reads makes emc a bad wagon? This doesn't make any sense to me.

I think EMC is a better choice to flip then Temasek today as it will give a lot more info. And before someone asks, no I don't have a case on emc, the same way I don't have a case on Temasek. They both are just coasting.

I would also not mind seeing Fox or Gold flip.

[ghug]

Does anyone who scumreads Fox want to humor me and see what happens when an actual wagon forms?

[Hellenic Riot]

I can't shake the feeling that one of HR and Tom is pocketing the other, but I'm not sure which.

I've considered it, but at the end of the day I just don't buy it. Tom's tone has been consistent, and frankly of all the people to pocket in this game I'm not a particularly useful one given current suspicion levels either. I will say that HB is giving off similar consistent town vibes now and is just as strong a townread.


As for emc giving more info: The problem there is that we're getting awfully low on Miskills. We have to start actually nailing the scum. This is yet another shite reason for voting emc, and it's getting old now. Emc has not been inactive. Emc has made plenty of posts. Is emc an absolutely brilliant scum player? I highly doubt. So why can't *anyone* actually come up with a real case for why he's scum?

[BunnyGo]

So Ghug, do you not like the leasing wagons?

Ok. I’ll humor you. May move back later. ##vote fox

[BunnyGo]

Hey, Einstein. What you think?

[Hellenic Riot]

And trying to claim that emc & Temasek are 'both just coasting' when emc has made almost 10x as many posts as Temasek is the most disingenuous bloody cop-out of a vote justification

[ghug]

So Ghug, do you not like the leasing wagons?

Ok. I’ll humor you. May move back later. ##vote fox

I don't like HR. I think I'm slightly more sold on him as town than Tom at this point, and I still think it's probably most likely they're both town.

Tem is decent, but Fox is on that wagon and so is therul, which does give me pause.

Emc is fine.

[Hellenic Riot]

What do you think about rdrivera, ghug?

[ghug]

What do you think about rdrivera, ghug?

Probably scum

[bo_sox48]

Momentum on rdrivera do I sense?

[ghug]

What do you think about rdrivera, ghug?

Probably scum

I can never read Rd and we don't have any scum flips so that one's 100% POE.

[Hellenic Riot]

Momentum on rdrivera do I sense?

And yet I'm the only vote on him

[bo_sox48]

There's not really anyone jockeying for position on any wagon, new or old, at the moment so I wouldn't take that too personally