Mafia 57 Matrix

[worcej]

So much to catch up on. I know I am shyte on my analysis as I stop putting 2 and 2 together. However, in my (limited) experience, my gut says:

Scumreading: Macca, therul
Iffy scumreading: nanook

I feel like they're all trying really hard at fitting in with some information, etc. Granted, there is a lot more for me to read. This thread suddenly opened up to 8 pages in a blink of an eye.

Townreads? No one really, yet.

Don't cry; don't raise your eyes. It's only teenage wasteland.

I can't get over how many characters this post spent saying nothing.

ghug and bo in the same game is like paradise to me.

More people saying the things I think as I read them and putting a smile on my face as I get caught up.

[goldfinger0303]

NAI is non-alignment indicative.

Spin it however you want, worcej, but moving from dick jokes to a substantive discussion is always a positive move in my eyes. And having no idea if our PRs had even read the setup (as many here clearly didn't) I wanted to publicize the argument for cooperation.

Besides, the new initiates to the Neb could at any time out-vote the PRs and kill the virus. Everyone needs to be on the same page to build trust and get the virus aboard the plan.

I am the spin master. Some people even call my Spinmaster-Flex!

Your whole 'we need to be on the same page and open' and the fear-mongering by saying 'the people on the neb could just overthrow the PRs' continue to reinforce my opinion you're scum wanting to prevent town advantage.

But don't worry - no one listens to me anyways

This hurts my brain worcej.

You realize the NK goes through before the red pill, right?
You realize that non-town directed NKs are bad, right?
You realize that the only barrier to this plan working is the virus feeling comfortable not being killed once on the Neb.

You realize that damo initially advocated to use the anti-virus on the virus, several people didn't want to lynch the virus, and ghug thought that the third party winning would end the game, right? Among other misconceptions that were cleared up.

Every night delayed in not red-pilling the virus means unnecessary potential townies dead.

[Tom Bombadil]

My impression is that Goldie gets scum read often, so I’m unsure he would come out so active if he actually rolled scum.

[ghug]

My impression is that Goldie gets scum read often, so I’m unsure he would come out so active if he actually rolled scum.

Does he?


I think damo is probably town because he's been so generally disagreeable.

[goldfinger0303]

You should vote for gold with me if that's your justification.

Ghug, baby. I know you love me but your dementia is cropping up again.

[goldfinger0303]

My impression is that Goldie gets scum read often, so I’m unsure he would come out so active if he actually rolled scum.

Does he?


I think damo is probably town because he's been so generally disagreeable.

I think I've been a main wagon by D2 of every game I've been in.

[Chaqa]

I think there is a non-zero chance that Macca subbed out because he rolled scum again and did poorly his first mafia round as scum.

This stands out to me as something town!Tom would likely not read into, since the GM explicitly said Macca would not have internet access. Why try to shade that slot?

[worcej]

Damo is definitely the sort that reads the VT PM when he's not a VT.

Disagree here - I think he normally isn't that hyper-mechanical to read all the posts.

[BunnyGo]

Damo is definitely the sort that reads the VT PM when he's not a VT.

Disagree here - I think he normally isn't that hyper-mechanical to read all the posts.

Having just been scum buddies with him twice recently, I'd agree with this.

[Foxcastle]

My impression is that Goldie gets scum read often, so I’m unsure he would come out so active if he actually rolled scum.

Does he?


I think damo is probably town because he's been so generally disagreeable.

I think that's pretty NAI...

[Tom Bombadil]

I think there is a non-zero chance that Macca subbed out because he rolled scum again and did poorly his first mafia round as scum.

This stands out to me as something town!Tom would likely not read into, since the GM explicitly said Macca would not have internet access. Why try to shade that slot?

Because I don’t take the GM explanation (even if relayed directly from Macca) at face value.

[Foxcastle]

Nanook having actually shown up, I will ##VOTE SUMMIT. Come out, come out wherever you are...

[BunnyGo]

Nanook having actually shown up, I will ##VOTE SUMMIT. Come out, come out wherever you are...

Question for you: How is publicly voting lurkers any more information than voting EMC? Is that actually who you think is scum? How are you choosing the order of lurkers to vote?

[rdrivera2005]

@Jamie sorry I got it wrong. Having reread you were clearly warning people not to claim VT.

My mistake (which is NAI in mpov but individuals can think what they like).

Having reread I now am wondering about rdr whose post I shouldn't have commented on so readily.

##vote rdr

Care to explain why?

Your reference to the Chosen has nothing to do with Jamiet and you are blatantly lying.

##vote Damo

Yes it does and no I'm not.

I thought Jamie was admonishing ghug for claiming Chosen One (he wasn't but that is by the by).

Why did you ask what Jamie meant?

Because Jamiet asking that feel weird the same way as your comment, maybe fishing, but his comment was before yours. And his explanation about wanting people to not claiming VT is plausible (but not needed as any PR will also claim VT). But you referenced the Chosen One showing you didn't get the PM reference so you are likely either scum, 3P or PR.
I didn't want to push you right now, but your vote on me doesn't feel like you are town or you would have understood where I was coming from.

[Foxcastle]

I think there is a non-zero chance that Macca subbed out because he rolled scum again and did poorly his first mafia round as scum.

This stands out to me as something town!Tom would likely not read into, since the GM explicitly said Macca would not have internet access. Why try to shade that slot?

Because I don’t take the GM explanation (even if relayed directly from Macca) at face value.

I think scum-Tom wouldn't say that because he should know that it would draw the kind of attention it did, or that it would draw other negative attention from people objecting that we can't know so we shouldn't speculate (which, of course, is just a round about way of getting to the former...).

[Foxcastle]

Nanook having actually shown up, I will ##VOTE SUMMIT. Come out, come out wherever you are...

Question for you: How is publicly voting lurkers any more information than voting EMC? Is that actually who you think is scum? How are you choosing the order of lurkers to vote?

As opposed to privately voting lurkers?

[Nanook]

My lurking wasn’t even that bad tbh I was still top half for posts

[worcej]

I think there is a non-zero chance that Macca subbed out because he rolled scum again and did poorly his first mafia round as scum.

You're factually correct.

[BunnyGo]

Nanook having actually shown up, I will ##VOTE SUMMIT. Come out, come out wherever you are...

Question for you: How is publicly voting lurkers any more information than voting EMC? Is that actually who you think is scum? How are you choosing the order of lurkers to vote?

As opposed to privately voting lurkers?

Yes. Copy-edit my extraneous adjectives, but I am curious about your thoughts.

[rdrivera2005]

NAI is non-alignment indicative.

Spin it however you want, worcej, but moving from dick jokes to a substantive discussion is always a positive move in my eyes. And having no idea if our PRs had even read the setup (as many here clearly didn't) I wanted to publicize the argument for cooperation.

Besides, the new initiates to the Neb could at any time out-vote the PRs and kill the virus. Everyone needs to be on the same page to build trust and get the virus aboard the plan.

I am the spin master. Some people even call my Spinmaster-Flex!

Your whole 'we need to be on the same page and open' and the fear-mongering by saying 'the people on the neb could just overthrow the PRs' continue to reinforce my opinion you're scum wanting to prevent town advantage.

But don't worry - no one listens to me anyways

I am listening. I don't like Gold play so far. Too much talk with very low substance, which isn't what I remember from him. I would also vote for him if Damo doesn't get traction.