Mafia 57 Matrix

[BismarckAlive]

So we're discussing whether the best strategy for Town is to ally with the Virus, help them to win, whilst also using the Virus to take shots at scum?

Sounds interesting.

Yes, that is the idea. Town doesn't care if / when Virus attains their win conditions, as long as Virus helps Town get Scum significantly lower than the current 5...

Remember, the Nebuchadnezzar protects its occupants from the Virus. So Town won't lose anything if / when Virus attains their win condition.

[BunnyGo]

Hi all. I still stand by my ##vote emc. He should not be allowed to repeatedly ruin the games without penalty. It's not fun.

Welcome back ghug, I've heard a lot about you. I'm just catching up now, but you've already made me laugh twice in the few posts I've read.

I have found that voting for emc D1 is scum indicative.

##VOTE BunnyGo

That's only because I've drawn scum since emc got modkilled.

[BunnyGo]

Hi all. I still stand by my ##vote emc. He should not be allowed to repeatedly ruin the games without penalty. It's not fun.

Welcome back ghug, I've heard a lot about you. I'm just catching up now, but you've already made me laugh twice in the few posts I've read.

I have found that voting for emc D1 is scum indicative.

##VOTE BunnyGo

That's only because I've drawn scum since emc got modkilled.

Or been lynched day 1 myself

[Jamiet99uk]

So we're discussing whether the best strategy for Town is to ally with the Virus, help them to win, whilst also using the Virus to take shots at scum?

Sounds interesting.

It seems a no lose from tpov but 3p would be at constant risk of anti virus. Why would they e pose themselves thus? Maybe if they thought it was their only chance of recruitment. So let's hope we have a 3p lacking in confidence.

What would Town's motivation be for using the anti-virus?

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE EMC because I don't even know why he was allowed to sign up.

[BunnyGo]

So we're discussing whether the best strategy for Town is to ally with the Virus, help them to win, whilst also using the Virus to take shots at scum?

Sounds interesting.

It seems a no lose from tpov but 3p would be at constant risk of anti virus. Why would they e pose themselves thus? Maybe if they thought it was their only chance of recruitment. So let's hope we have a 3p lacking in confidence.

What would Town's motivation be for using the anti-virus?

Spite?

There is a cost to town of virus attaining 3rd win condition: they have a mislynch and lose the NEB. So don't lynch the virus...

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh that's true the ship QT is lost if the Virus wins.

I guess the ideal outcome, then, is to eliminate the Mafia and then lynch the Virus last.

[Jamiet99uk]

These people have not posted:

- bo_sox48
- rdrivera2005
- summit_fever
- TheFlyingBoat

This person has a webDip Mafia reliability rating of 13%:

- EMC

I would like to see all of the above actually show up and participate, please?

[Jamiet99uk]

@EMC: I will remove my vote from you, if you +1 this post.

[Tom Bombadil]

God, did Hamilton really just put a scum read on every new player, then defer to an analysis by Bunny and proceed to hedge the shit out of it?

##vote Hamilton brian

Can you explain why you find this scummy and not typical newbie town play?

My gut reaction here is Goldie going after some potential low hanging fruit.

[BunnyGo]

@EMC: I will remove my vote from you, if you +1 this post.

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[Jamiet99uk]

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[damo666]

Oh that's true the ship QT is lost if the Virus wins.

I guess the ideal outcome, then, is to eliminate the Mafia and then lynch the Virus last.

Kill the virus with the ship's anti virus rather than daykill, yes.

However of course this is the very reason 3p might not be so subservient! We can but hope.

[damo666]

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one with diminishing returns?

[damo666]

##vote emc

shake him into action

[Foxcastle]

##vote emc

shake him into action

I'm all for trying to get EMC to do anything, but it won't work and wagoning him on D1 leads to less information than other players.

[Nanook]

Is there a reason you guys are picking on emc or....?

[Jamiet99uk]

Is there a reason you guys are picking on emc or....?

He has a very bad track record. Sometimes he is an active player, but in several games he has just disappeared, forgotten about the game, or got too busy, and rather than requesting a sub he just gets modkilled or replaced out and it's really bad for the game to have this happen in multiple games. He makes this worse by having a tendency to try to leave his vote until the last second - but then he dozes off and doesn't vote.

[Foxcastle]

Tell us about your spreadsheet, Nanook. What data are you collecting? What are you measuring? How do you detect non-obvious connections between players that could be scum-teams? Do you think the mason chat will make town players appear connected in a way that is usually scum-indicative?