M1012 Redux

[e.m.c^42]

bozo, emc or rdr are likely to kill vecna n1 so it doesn't really help.

if one of them is cop, that'll be great for narrowing things down tomorrow

Lol, my list was same but swapped me for you. I have a ridiculous fondness of Vecna so NKing him would've been unlikely, due to wanting him to stay ingame longer.

[Jamiet99uk]

But bozo's lack of readability is, agh

You said you didn't scumread him.

But you put your "placeholder" vote on him and then left it there.

You had scumreads, or so you claimed.

Bozo was not among them.

Please explain yourself.

No claimed scumreads? It was kind of townreads vs null read, so

Liar.

On page 27 I asked if due to PoE your scumpool was Durga and Rdrivera and you said yes.

Why not one of them?

Why did you LEAVE your vote on Bozo when you didn't think he was scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

Aw.

Why did you leave your placeholder vote on Bozo, who you said you didn't actually scumread?

Because the other option was HB, who I townread? Also because the "in case I vanish" came true and I didn't make it back in time.

Why was HB the only other option?

Summit was also an option at the time you voted.

[Jamiet99uk]

EMC is presenting us with two options:

1. He has a lower IQ than the President of the United States of America.

2. He is scum.

One of these must be true.

[e.m.c^42]

Reading summit's posts I'm starting to lose that mild townread for a scumread lol

Any reason in particular?

Yep! The kind of sudden flip on HB in reads. You went from defending him as townie to me to defending him as scummy to me, lol. I liked your observations but they seem to kind of lack agenda this game? Like, on reread they come across a lil' as observations for the sake of content rather than argument.

[Durga]

Do you have no scum reads and only null reads because you're scum emc?

[e.m.c^42]

You said you didn't scumread him.

But you put your "placeholder" vote on him and then left it there.

You had scumreads, or so you claimed.

Bozo was not among them.

Please explain yourself.

No claimed scumreads? It was kind of townreads vs null read, so

Liar.

On page 27 I asked if due to PoE your scumpool was Durga and Rdrivera and you said yes.

Why not one of them?

Why did you LEAVE your vote on Bozo when you didn't think he was scum?

?

No, I said yes to if that was the remaining people I had to put reads about.

[e.m.c^42]

Why did you leave your placeholder vote on Bozo, who you said you didn't actually scumread?

Because the other option was HB, who I townread? Also because the "in case I vanish" came true and I didn't make it back in time.

Why was HB the only other option?

Summit was also an option at the time you voted.

Summit wasn't really an option, he felt more towny at the time, which changed on reread a little while back.

[e.m.c^42]

Do you have no scum reads and only null reads because you're scum emc?

Alas, would've bussed flash hella more if that was case.

I currently mildly scumread summit :P

[summit_fever]

Reading summit's posts I'm starting to lose that mild townread for a scumread lol

Any reason in particular?

Yep! The kind of sudden flip on HB in reads. You went from defending him as townie to me to defending him as scummy to me, lol. I liked your observations but they seem to kind of lack agenda this game? Like, on reread they come across a lil' as observations for the sake of content rather than argument.

I thought Brian was looking townie at the end of day 1. Day 2 changed that. It's disingenuous to suggest I bounced around on Brian without reason.

[rdrivera2005]

Damn it. We'll find the scum Brian.

Ahh sorry HB I need to learn to read new players better

Both these reactions look fake.

The problem is at least one of them is genuine.

Sigh.

I think scum was highly motivated to mislynch bozo. Vecna did say "lynch bozo day 2 and win the game".

And he was right.

[rdrivera2005]

Both these reactions look fake.

The problem is at least one of them is genuine.

Sigh.

I think scum was highly motivated to mislynch bozo. Vecna did say "lynch bozo day 2 and win the game".

Are you me? I was just thinking that scum is likely to either a) be bozo or b) vote for bozo

because having HB alive is pretty good for scum imo. so you're my biggest town read right now

Considering HB was town and I know I am town this leave only emc.

But I agree, if I were scum I would love to get to lylo with HB.

[Jamiet99uk]

No claimed scumreads? It was kind of townreads vs null read, so

Liar.

On page 27 I asked if due to PoE your scumpool was Durga and Rdrivera and you said yes.

Why not one of them?

Why did you LEAVE your vote on Bozo when you didn't think he was scum?

?

No, I said yes to if that was the remaining people I had to put reads about.

This is getting really stupid.

You had said that you were not scumreading any of the others.

Therefore assuming for a moment you were being truthful, that means only Durga or Rdrivera were left.

Therefore you must have assumed that the remaining scum was in that two person pool - as I stated in the post above.

But you are now saying you did not consider either of them was scum.

Ergo you are asking us to believe that you didn't think there are any scum in the game. Everyone is town. The game is over. Town has won and the silly old GM has forgotten to tell us?

Either you are an imbecile, EMC, or you think that we are.

As far as I am convinced you are outing yourself as scum at this point and if that somehow turns out not to be true, then you do not understand this game and should go away and stop playing it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Just to be very clear: EMC is asking us to believe that, at the time he parked his "placeholder" vote onto Bozo, he was townreading everybody.

There is exactly one scenario in which that is indisputably true.

It is the scenario in which EMC is scum and in fact, is correct that everyone else is town.

Ho ho ho.

[rdrivera2005]

Liar.

On page 27 I asked if due to PoE your scumpool was Durga and Rdrivera and you said yes.

Why not one of them?

Why did you LEAVE your vote on Bozo when you didn't think he was scum?

?

No, I said yes to if that was the remaining people I had to put reads about.

This is getting really stupid.

You had said that you were not scumreading any of the others.

Therefore assuming for a moment you were being truthful, that means only Durga or Rdrivera were left.

Therefore you must have assumed that the remaining scum was in that two person pool - as I stated in the post above.

But you are now saying you did not consider either of them was scum.

Ergo you are asking us to believe that you didn't think there are any scum in the game. Everyone is town. The game is over. Town has won and the silly old GM has forgotten to tell us?

Either you are an imbecile, EMC, or you think that we are.

As far as I am convinced you are outing yourself as scum at this point and if that somehow turns out not to be true, then you do not understand this game and should go away and stop playing it.

Jamiet, you just lynched a town so I don't see why you are in such a high horse and being intentionally rude. There is no need for this as this game have been really civilized until now.

[rdrivera2005]

I was thinking something here, that weirdly HB was right about him and Jamiet being town. And then I remembered why I voted for Summit D1, his vote after that HB post, which for me (and first Vecna) was the towniest thing HB did.
So, if I am wrong about Bozo (and I don't think I am), Summit is my second guess.

[Jamiet99uk]

?

No, I said yes to if that was the remaining people I had to put reads about.

This is getting really stupid.

You had said that you were not scumreading any of the others.

Therefore assuming for a moment you were being truthful, that means only Durga or Rdrivera were left.

Therefore you must have assumed that the remaining scum was in that two person pool - as I stated in the post above.

But you are now saying you did not consider either of them was scum.

Ergo you are asking us to believe that you didn't think there are any scum in the game. Everyone is town. The game is over. Town has won and the silly old GM has forgotten to tell us?

Either you are an imbecile, EMC, or you think that we are.

As far as I am convinced you are outing yourself as scum at this point and if that somehow turns out not to be true, then you do not understand this game and should go away and stop playing it.

Jamiet, you just lynched a town so I don't see why you are in such a high horse and being intentionally rude. There is no need for this as this game have been really civilized until now.

First of all, I didn't want to lynch either Bozo or HB but that is the choice you lot presented me with. I would have lynched EMC.

Second of all, since you are here, please can you help me then?

Explain EMC's behaviour and statements to me, in a way that makes him a sensible Town player with a logical thought process. Please. I would love it if you could do that.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, Rdrivera, please can you answer my question about how you know EMC is definitely town?

I asked that question earlier this phase and I have not seen an answer from you.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Rdrivera:

This is the question to which I refer:

Well, at least 3 town think or thought Bozo is scum....

You are certain that EMC is town.

Why is that?

[rdrivera2005]

Also, Rdrivera, please can you answer my question about how you know EMC is definitely town?

I asked that question earlier this phase and I have not seen an answer from you.

I am not certain emc are town. I have Durga higher on my townread. But I have less reasons to scumread him then I have to scumread Bozo and Summit.

The vote on Flash D1 is the main reason but also what I remember from scum emc is a less relaxed play then what I see here. About his thought process, he is certainly not exactly the most logical player, but this is usually NAI for emc.

By the way, say one towny thing you see on Bozo? He is just coasting, it's like the game he was the Traitor.