M1012 Redux

[e.m.c^42]

e.m.c must have rolled scum this time, I can feel it:

##VOTE e.m.c

<3

Projection much? ;p

What did you mean here emc?

Insinuating him of being scum in a joke, due to vague gut feel lol.

[summit_fever]

You know what, for now just ##vote bozo, in case something happens and I vanish again, going to go skim bot.

I don't think you've ever suggested a scumread of Bozo. Except based on a POE due to the NK right before this vote.

[rdrivera2005]

Looking at the D1 VCA, the remaining 6 non-clears can be grouped into three categories:

1. rdrivera and summit: They both joined the flash when it looked like he was very likely the kill two different times, first after Jamie and Vecna switched their votes to flash, then again after Jamie counterclaimed flash. They both also changed their votes after flash claimed doctor.

2. HB and myself: We did not vote for flash until after Jamie indicated flash's claim was fake, but before Jamie hard claimed doctor.

3. Durga and emc: They voted for flash early and never changed their votes, even when flash claimed doctor. They would have to have been hard bussing flash.

The bottom line is that a case could be made for anyone based on VCA, and whoever is scum, a town voted in a similar way.

I should point out that, between rivera and myself, I had shown interest in voting flash prior to him becoming a main wagon. Rivera never did this.

What? I told Durga I thought Flash wasn't a bad choice way before he turned into a big wagon.

I am leaving work and will try to be around at EOD. Just in case I miss it,
with only 1 scum left VCA is pretty useless, so just be careful to not tie the voting at EOD.

[e.m.c^42]

I can't find any reason to scumread Bozo. He committed to trying to wagon Vecna. I didn't think Vecna looked great on day 1 either.

I've had to readjust given I thought it unlikely players other than Hamilton would leave a townclear alive, but I still don't get the Vecna kill. Why not Durga? She seems respected and is coming off as a solid townread.

I don't really want to wagon anybody other than HB.

HB is in that fun area of wifom. Mildly foolish town and easy to falsely wagon, or conniving scum acting as a foolish town in order to be derpcleared. I'm leaning towards former for now, since like I believe you said there's enough of a difference in his game this time around vs last time. Did something change for you?

[e.m.c^42]

You know what, for now just ##vote bozo, in case something happens and I vanish again, going to go skim bot.

I don't think you've ever suggested a scumread of Bozo. Except based on a POE due to the NK right before this vote.

Don't really think he's scum but historically I don't read him well. Did say it was placeholder just in case no?

[summit_fever]

Looking at the D1 VCA, the remaining 6 non-clears can be grouped into three categories:

1. rdrivera and summit: They both joined the flash when it looked like he was very likely the kill two different times, first after Jamie and Vecna switched their votes to flash, then again after Jamie counterclaimed flash. They both also changed their votes after flash claimed doctor.

2. HB and myself: We did not vote for flash until after Jamie indicated flash's claim was fake, but before Jamie hard claimed doctor.

3. Durga and emc: They voted for flash early and never changed their votes, even when flash claimed doctor. They would have to have been hard bussing flash.

The bottom line is that a case could be made for anyone based on VCA, and whoever is scum, a town voted in a similar way.

I should point out that, between rivera and myself, I had shown interest in voting flash prior to him becoming a main wagon. Rivera never did this.

What? I told Durga I thought Flash wasn't a bad choice way before he turned into a big wagon.

I am leaving work and will try to be around at EOD. Just in case I miss it,
with only 1 scum left VCA is pretty useless, so just be careful to not tie the voting at EOD.

Ahh okay. I should say you never voted flash prior to him being a big wagon. I did.

[summit_fever]

I can't find any reason to scumread Bozo. He committed to trying to wagon Vecna. I didn't think Vecna looked great on day 1 either.

I've had to readjust given I thought it unlikely players other than Hamilton would leave a townclear alive, but I still don't get the Vecna kill. Why not Durga? She seems respected and is coming off as a solid townread.

I don't really want to wagon anybody other than HB.

HB is in that fun area of wifom. Mildly foolish town and easy to falsely wagon, or conniving scum acting as a foolish town in order to be derpcleared. I'm leaning towards former for now, since like I believe you said there's enough of a difference in his game this time around vs last time. Did something change for you?

Or perhaps a little dejected his scumbuddy got nailed immediately.

My points are similar to Durga's. Why return to this style of play on day 2? Why lie about that post. I scanned you in M55 and didn't mention it in nightchat because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. Course they nightkilled you and I had to own up to that the next day. Don't think I tried to lie (or misremember) about that.

You know what, for now just ##vote bozo, in case something happens and I vanish again, going to go skim bot.

I don't think you've ever suggested a scumread of Bozo. Except based on a POE due to the NK right before this vote.

Don't really think he's scum but historically I don't read him well. Did say it was placeholder just in case no?

You did. Your placeholder made Bozo the lead wagon.

[Hamilton Brian]

I am going to stand by my vote on Bozo. Yeah, vote count would suggest to focus on Summit or Rdrivera. However, Bozo went to some lengths to research my previous posts to add validity to the suggestion I am scum.

I'd love to offer questions to Summit, Rdrivera, and EMC but I have nothing that's jumping out to me that would be a worthwhile question other than taking up air.

I have to go out but should be able to check in before EoD.

[Durga]

Some observations:
1. So far Bozo has spent pretty much 90% of his posts tunneling on HB
2. If rdr is scum I'll eat a fucking hat and quit this game
3. Summit looks townie d1

[e.m.c^42]

Er, summit, what post?

[summit_fever]

I am going to stand by my vote on Bozo. Yeah, vote count would suggest to focus on Summit or Rdrivera. However, Bozo went to some lengths to research my previous posts to add validity to the suggestion I am scum.

I'd love to offer questions to Summit, Rdrivera, and EMC but I have nothing that's jumping out to me that would be a worthwhile question other than taking up air.

I have to go out but should be able to check in before EoD.

You don't want people to do research to come up with scumreads?

This screams I want Bozo lynched because he's scumreading me. If you think scum is between rivera and me, why won't you focus on that?

[summit_fever]

HB why did you post this AFTER night ended?

I wasn't sure I was supposed to be posting at all and I didn't see the relevance to nighttime.

What do you mean you weren't sure you were supposed to be posting at all? And why wasn't this a relevant question right after day one ended? Were you sitting on this post all night?

I had Vecna all wrong then. I was going to question them on the flipping of votes 3 times in the last minute. I need to check in to my notes, but my certainty for town is wholly on Durga and EMC. I can cross Vecna off the "suspicious" list.

I had some questions for Durga. You were pretty adamant with only a little time remaining to vote Flash. Can I ask what it was that made you so certain they were scum? I'm asking just to see if there's something I missed or some nuance that was over my head.

[Durga]

Emc put flash in the lead with 50 minutes to do. I feel like he could have thrown his vote on anyone at that point and fucked off. So I'd be really shocked if he was scum.

Bozo then pushes Vecna, after flash is on three

HB soon after says this:

So flash has the lead in votes. I can't say I am wholly convinced so is there one of durga, summit, or emc that would care to enlighten me as to why? What did I miss in what they wrote before?

If summit is at 2 votes, why only the 2? Which of Vecna or rdrivera would move from them, and why?

God, they both look terrible.

[bozotheclown]

Just looking at the vote ordering on the bot, summit and rdrivera are the ones who voted for flash when it "became obvious" flash would be the kill.

So if we're using the vote record as the ONLY metric, could we say that Summit and Rdrivera were being the most opportunistic in voting for Flash? If that were the case, everything else being off the table, would it be more reasonable for us to vote for one of Summit and Rdrivera, instead of one another?

I would say summit and rdrivera look the worse based on the voting, but I know at least one is town, and if I am correct about you, then both are town. Often town looks bad based strictly on VCA, because they do not care as much as scum how their voting looks later.

[Foxcastle]

VOTE COUNT 2.3

bozotheclown (3) — rdrivera2005, Hamilton Brian, e.m.c^42
Hamilton Brian (2) — bozotheclown, summit_fever
summit_fever (1) — Durga
Unvote (1) — Jamiet99uk

Bozotheclown is set to be eliminated when Day 2 ends in approximately 45 minutes.

You reappear in a flash of light in the machine's chamber. The rest of the dinner party—thankfully they all seem to be separate and individual—looks relieved.

"Where did you go, Mr. Green?" Mrs. Peacock asks breathlessly.

Colonel Mustar interjects, "The man's been on a journey through space and time, Peacock. What he needs is a drink!"

You nod and head upstairs to the parlor.

[Durga]

##vote vecna

I will miss some of those posts.

Flash ties the vote vecna v summit and then

HB puts vecna in the lead DESPITE not understanding why bozo switched to vecna.

[bozotheclown]

Emc put flash in the lead with 50 minutes to do. I feel like he could have thrown his vote on anyone at that point and fucked off. So I'd be really shocked if he was scum.

Bozo then pushes Vecna, after flash is on three

HB soon after says this:

So flash has the lead in votes. I can't say I am wholly convinced so is there one of durga, summit, or emc that would care to enlighten me as to why? What did I miss in what they wrote before?

If summit is at 2 votes, why only the 2? Which of Vecna or rdrivera would move from them, and why?

God, they both look terrible.

Why would I push Vecna if I was scum, knowing he would be difficult to kill, when I could have just voted for summit? Vecna looked more like scum to me than flash or summit.

[Jamiet99uk]

You know what, for now just ##vote bozo, in case something happens and I vanish again, going to go skim bot.

I don't think you've ever suggested a scumread of Bozo. Except based on a POE due to the NK right before this vote.

Don't really think he's scum but historically I don't read him well. Did say it was placeholder just in case no?

Why choose someone you don't think is scum, as a placeholder, when you did say you thought Durga, Rdrivera, or Summit might be scum?

Bullshit.

##VOTE EMC

[bozotheclown]

HB has still not explained why he posted so much N1 in the canceled game if he thought posting at night was not allowed.

[Durga]

Wtf is happening

What is happening is the mob got spun effectively. Wow! How quick that happened.

Mob got spun EFFECTIVELY

He said this before flash flipped!!!!! aghhhhhhhh am I just wrong or is he scum