Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[worcej]

Worcej can we get a docsave so we can keep churning out results?

Hopefully I do. I am thinking which lucky PR wants to get my healing goop on their face tonight.

[brainbomb]

but not really.

worcej town based on these interactions

I should have been town the second I protested the damn mass claim that made this game into a weird version of ‘guess who?’

we may get a flawless win. not even sure the massclaim was needed lol

[worcej]

so why did donny get lynched with unanimity

Because he admitted to being scum, more than two hours before EOD.

It all made very little sense. He was in the lead but by no means a done deal.

I think it is possible Donny was trying to save some of his team mates. See, I don't agree that the D2 wagons analysis is useless. I have been busy with a family medical emergency, but the fact is that when I voted Donny at 41.26 hours to go, it became BOZO 4, Donny 3. It is worth cross-referencing the shift of votes from BOZO to DONNY, before and after the DONNY dirty claim. I think at least one or two dirty scouts were still on BOZO, when the BOZO survey published DONNY and JAMIET as the highest scanned dirty scouts across 14 of the 17 players. I need sleep now (1:30am) before my 6am alarm for EON, but if I don't die, then I will be able to look at it in more detail.

Is Jamie still being judged mostly on what Chaqa did?

[bozotheclown]

What if you got a guilty on yourself because someone targetted brainbomb, Bozo?

Wouldnt that be hilarious?

I never said I received a guilty scan, why did you assume I did?

because brainbom said you both got one and hes your partner?

I never said brainbomb was my partner, do you believe every claim brainbomb makes?

[worcej]

but not really.

worcej town based on these interactions

I should have been town the second I protested the damn mass claim that made this game into a weird version of ‘guess who?’

we may get a flawless win. not even sure the massclaim was needed lol

FWIW - there is definitely a coach in the scum team who pushed for killing the unclaimed player on N1. It was the most logical choice given the way the ‘board’ looked.

[worcej]

I never said I received a guilty scan, why did you assume I did?

because brainbom said you both got one and hes your partner?

I never said brainbomb was my partner, do you believe every claim brainbomb makes?

gotta admit, there is a lot of truth in that.

[bozotheclown]

I think Vecna and xorxes came out of D2 looking suspicious for arguing against the PRs claiming D2, they seemed to think a mislynch was worth the Scoutmaster potentially getting one more scan, which would have been a bad trade for town.

A mislynch for another scan would have been a good trade, since the mislynch would also have come with information.

We did not get a mislynch in any case, and we still kept the chance of another scan, so win-win. We only lost a bit of information because of the confession.

Notice how I'm not saying you came out of D2 looking suspicious for arguing for an obviously flawed plan, especially when you consider JF.

Yes, but you and Vecna were not voting for Donny before he conceded. I know Vecna was pushing for a mislynch, and it is possible you were as well.

[brainbomb]

brainbomb
06-11-2020
08:21 PM ET (US)
EDIT

DELETE

Were being denied the opportunity to even get to push scum.
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bozo
06-11-2020
07:18 PM ET (US)
I am going to try to keep it from being obvious to the mafia that your claim about us being in this chat is true. Maybe they will think you are trying to trick them into a failed 2 NK attempt.
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bb
06-11-2020
05:13 PM ET (US)
oh! we caught a scum. I get it now
12
bb
06-11-2020
05:08 PM ET (US)
Im very confused by the message
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bb
06-10-2020
03:34 AM ET (US)
Understood. The only thing was if somebody like xorx and vecna were town, saw us claim late phase theyd likely say we were self resolving and someone else would get lynched
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bozo
06-10-2020
03:11 AM ET (US)
I still do not think there is any reason to give scum that information, and I am not sure it would change anyone's mind about lynching me.
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bozo
06-10-2020
03:08 AM ET (US)
That is a good point about if the scum would want to eliminate 2 VTs. If all 5 scum claim VT, I think they would have to kill in the PRs.
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bozo
06-10-2020
03:06 AM ET (US)
I do not think there is any reason to claim and give the scum a 2 for 1 NK.

[brainbomb]

bozo is lying. and I suspect he thinks its best play for some god awful reason

[brainbomb]

if bozo got roleblocked that could explain him not getting a watcher message?

[bozotheclown]

Why? The "Nervous?" line by summit really bothers me actually.

Also, what's your take on the whole worcej outting emc as his chat partner because worcej thinks emc is scum. Was there a conclusion on this issue. I thought worcej would be fighting to the death for an emc lynch or something but I don't recall seeing any of it.

worcej was busy with relatives so did not participate much today. Also, he knew we would not be lynching in the PR pool.

I think worcej and emc are both town, worcej most definitely, emc likely. When worcej is town, his reads are very useful, you just have to reverse them to get to the truth. When he is scum, his reads are very accurate. The buddy claim makes no sense as either alignment. I was hoping it was all a bluff, who knows, maybe it is.

Still on vacation until Tuesday, so do not expect D1 performances from me for the next day phase either. Also I am skimming to get facts from participants, so I may not have the most relevant info.

The whole flip flop thing has been not necessarily as accurate lately, but I am still on this scum group: bozo/emc/durga - in order of confidence. Reasons already addressed.

Donny flipping scum does not change your reads?

[brainbomb]

even if every single vt chat claimed, scum still would auto lose because town has 7 clears. why do you feel like protecting us is ever a priority

[brainbomb]

macca and donny lynches didnt even have anything to do with massclaiming. it was just normal mafia

[Vecna]

##CALL GM

Is JF1981 going to be replaced?

seconded, he did not post or vote and its kinda important we get a replacement there.

How ya feelin today sparky

marvelous as always

[Vecna]

##CALL GM

Is JF1981 going to be replaced?

Why do you imagine the GM would just fail to do this?

he wasnt aroubd to do the day resolution, and the end votecount done by tom B was wrong

[Vecna]

not much else to reread with donny. he didnt exactly antispew so it looks like he cleared damo at the very least, bismark if you have an imagination.

strange donny just suicided, maybe he saw writing on the wall and wanted to make the busser argument easier on his team

lol

[Jamiet99uk]

Why do you imagine the GM would just fail to do this?

The GM missed EoD2 and hasn't posted about this yet.

yes. youre right.
lets hound him to get a sub, he probably isnt aware a player needs to be subbed in his own game.
fuck the GM in fact

Brainbomb, there is no need to be rude.

Please remember that as a community, we have agreed to try to be more civil in these games.

Thank you.

[Jamiet99uk]

but not really.

worcej town based on these interactions

I should have been town the second I protested the damn mass claim that made this game into a weird version of ‘guess who?’

You have just given me a fantastic idea for a setup and flavour at some point in the future.

[Jamiet99uk]

macca and donny lynches didnt even have anything to do with massclaiming. it was just normal mafia

Brainbomb is correct about this.

So far Bozo's massclaim has caught nobody, but we've still caught two of the scumteam.

[brainbomb]

The GM missed EoD2 and hasn't posted about this yet.

yes. youre right.
lets hound him to get a sub, he probably isnt aware a player needs to be subbed in his own game.
fuck the GM in fact

Brainbomb, there is no need to be rude.

Please remember that as a community, we have agreed to try to be more civil in these games.

Thank you.

the last person who said I was being rude was donny
donny flipped scum