Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[summit_fever]

I will record that as your prediction, you can always change it.

You really can be singleminded. That's my tinfoil (minus flash).

Can you explain your theory about Bob, brainbomb, and me?

It would ultimately hinge on how much control you three have had over the first. Brain cleared in bob's chat. Bozo/Brain buddychat revealed early. A guilty result pending at this time. A lot of this has created a lot of confusion for me. Perhaps for others it has created clarity.

[summit_fever]

@summit, what did you conclude from looking at this?

I don't know. Just looking at it again Bob's question could be related to comments made in their QT. I've been trying to get a reads list going but I'm tinfoiling on bozo/brain/bob. Is that crazy?

In the PR list I'm suspicious of flash because the low output is low even for flash.

i wasnt aware you had played that many games with flash

Does M55 represent a normal posting rate for flash or is this game a better example?

[bozotheclown]

You really can be singleminded. That's my tinfoil (minus flash).

Can you explain your theory about Bob, brainbomb, and me?

It would ultimately hinge on how much control you three have had over the first. Brain cleared in bob's chat. Bozo/Brain buddychat revealed early. A guilty result pending at this time. A lot of this has created a lot of confusion for me. Perhaps for others it has created clarity.

Sorry, I did not follow that, what do you mean by "over the first"?

[summit_fever]

Can you explain your theory about Bob, brainbomb, and me?

It would ultimately hinge on how much control you three have had over the first. Brain cleared in bob's chat. Bozo/Brain buddychat revealed early. A guilty result pending at this time. A lot of this has created a lot of confusion for me. Perhaps for others it has created clarity.

Sorry, I did not follow that, what do you mean by "over the first"?

sorry. first part of this game.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Going to have to delay my promise to post all tells by a few more hours stuck in in person tech support hell as after replacing my laptops battery and left fan it turns out Apple broke my wifi antenna so my personal laptop can't access the internet anymore. Hopefully I can get them to fix their mistake before they close or I'll have the unenviable task of posting a thousand words based on cross referencing tons of pages from my phone. Fuck me. No matter what though, even if I do have to post from my phone. I'll also explain why these accusations against me are ridiculous.

[bozotheclown]

It would ultimately hinge on how much control you three have had over the first. Brain cleared in bob's chat. Bozo/Brain buddychat revealed early. A guilty result pending at this time. A lot of this has created a lot of confusion for me. Perhaps for others it has created clarity.

Sorry, I did not follow that, what do you mean by "over the first"?

sorry. first part of this game.

So you think Bob fabricated the Macca quotes?

[bozotheclown]

I don't know. Just looking at it again Bob's question could be related to comments made in their QT. I've been trying to get a reads list going but I'm tinfoiling on bozo/brain/bob. Is that crazy?

In the PR list I'm suspicious of flash because the low output is low even for flash.

i wasnt aware you had played that many games with flash

Does M55 represent a normal posting rate for flash or is this game a better example?

flash typically does not post a lot, especially early, but usually more than this game.

[summit_fever]

Sorry, I did not follow that, what do you mean by "over the first"?

sorry. first part of this game.

So you think Bob fabricated the Macca quotes?

No.
I think the most reasonable VTs to consider are Damo and Hellenic. I have Donny and Durga in the null camp.

Damo: If Damo rolled scum again getting the mass claim rolling with him claiming VT takes the pressure off while hoping his team in the PR camp can ultimately get the job done.

Hellenic: Again I have my doubts since I was interested in Hellenic having no contact at all with Macca. Hellenic gave a couple of opportunities to Macca to engage him early in the game. Macca chose not to. Hellenic's flip could give some useful information into how Macca was approaching the game.

[xorxes]

I don't know. Just looking at it again Bob's question could be related to comments made in their QT. I've been trying to get a reads list going but I'm tinfoiling on bozo/brain/bob. Is that crazy?

In the PR list I'm suspicious of flash because the low output is low even for flash.

PRs will be much easier to sort after claims and NK, no point spending much time on that. Finding the scum in the VTs is much more important now.

We are going to have counterclaims to choose from in the PR group. Do you have a scum team prediction?

I have HR so far. Need to look more into summit, Donny, damo. I think brain. Durga and you are town. It would seem Bob is town. I was more confident about rivera earlier.

Most of the PRs are laying low, so hard to tell, but not for today. Jamie is looking slightly better than Chaqa did.

Just to say something: HR, summit, Jamie, JF. But HR is the only one I'm somewhat confident of.

[summit_fever]

##vote hellenic

[summit_fever]

i wasnt aware you had played that many games with flash

Does M55 represent a normal posting rate for flash or is this game a better example?

flash typically does not post a lot, especially early, but usually more than this game.

I would like a response from Vecna.

[Jamiet99uk]

How do you say that it is to the exclusion of everything else? I have given my best guess at the remaining scum team with reasons for each. Now I am trying to get everyone else to give their best guess at the 4, something that has proven useful in the past.

You're not pushing any of your reads though. You're not putting any pressure on your "scumreads".

You're not even voting for anyone.

I am pushing them, and everyone else, to provide their scum team predictions, because I think the scum would prefer not to if they could avoid it.

Of your four stated scumreads, three of them have provided their scum team predictions, and two of those were among the first four to respond.

That does not look like "avoiding" to me, so what does that tell you?

[Jamiet99uk]

And once again Bozo, why aren't you voting?

As usual you're more interested in compiling surveys than actually getting people lynched.

[rdrivera2005]

Do you think Bob fabricated that conversation with macca in their chat?

I think he is capable of this or more likely editing the real posts to show what he wants to show to get town credit.

What do you think of this from D1:

Keep in mind that there may also be buddy chats which roleswapped. we have a very imcomplete tapestry

Correct. Something my buddy suggested, but that I refused, and not just because I refuse to claim.

I didn't see this. I didn't had time for a reread today and Bob is one of the biggest posters. I had to work and today is Valentine's day here in Brasil, so Mrs Rivera have some expectations from me.

But I agree, this didn't look fabricated and maybe I am tunneling.

[Jamiet99uk]

Arguing with Bozo is like trying to make love to a railway locomotive.

Painful and unsatisfying.

[Jamiet99uk]

Keep in mind that there may also be buddy chats which roleswapped. we have a very imcomplete tapestry

Correct. Something my buddy suggested, but that I refused, and not just because I refuse to claim.

Reading back, Macca seemed rather newbish and confused and asked a lot of questions. Flustered newb scum. It's what got him lynched isn't it?

It seems to me rather incongruous that he would also come up with the suggestion of swapping roles in the buddy chat.

[summit_fever]

Keep in mind that there may also be buddy chats which roleswapped. we have a very imcomplete tapestry

Correct. Something my buddy suggested, but that I refused, and not just because I refuse to claim.

Reading back, Macca seemed rather newbish and confused and asked a lot of questions. Flustered newb scum. It's what got him lynched isn't it?

It seems to me rather incongruous that he would also come up with the suggestion of swapping roles in the buddy chat.

It was first suggested as a possibility by Brainbomb.

[summit_fever]

Correct. Something my buddy suggested, but that I refused, and not just because I refuse to claim.

Reading back, Macca seemed rather newbish and confused and asked a lot of questions. Flustered newb scum. It's what got him lynched isn't it?

It seems to me rather incongruous that he would also come up with the suggestion of swapping roles in the buddy chat.

It was first suggested as a possibility by Brainbomb.

Macca seemed like a loose cannon. Not shy at all.

[rdrivera2005]

PRs will be much easier to sort after claims and NK, no point spending much time on that. Finding the scum in the VTs is much more important now.

We are going to have counterclaims to choose from in the PR group. Do you have a scum team prediction?

I have HR so far. Need to look more into summit, Donny, damo. I think brain. Durga and you are town. It would seem Bob is town. I was more confident about rivera earlier.

Most of the PRs are laying low, so hard to tell, but not for today. Jamie is looking slightly better than Chaqa did.

Just to say something: HR, summit, Jamie, JF. But HR is the only one I'm somewhat confident of.

I think I played with HR only in my first games and I just don't remember his meta. Do you think he will try to tie the vote on D1 instead of just letting Bozo be lynched if Bozo is town? People usually fear to tie the vote and after the tie someone usually untie one way or another and you can't predict which way. I just see HR as scum if Bozo is also scum.

[Hellenic Riot]

We are going to have counterclaims to choose from in the PR group. Do you have a scum team prediction?

I have HR so far. Need to look more into summit, Donny, damo. I think brain. Durga and you are town. It would seem Bob is town. I was more confident about rivera earlier.

Most of the PRs are laying low, so hard to tell, but not for today. Jamie is looking slightly better than Chaqa did.

Just to say something: HR, summit, Jamie, JF. But HR is the only one I'm somewhat confident of.

I think I played with HR only in my first games and I just don't remember his meta. Do you think he will try to tie the vote on D1 instead of just letting Bozo be lynched if Bozo is town? People usually fear to tie the vote and after the tie someone usually untie one way or another and you can't predict which way. I just see HR as scum if Bozo is also scum.

I remember that xorxes and I used to deathtunnel each other repeatedly almost every game, and I'm amused to see that after two years away at least one of us looks to be maintaining that posture.