Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[xorxes]

So who is going to ensure that everyne actually does this

Every PR should commit to claiming before EON. They may choose when exactly to do so at their discretion, but commit to doing it before EON.

[brainbomb]

I am like bruce banner. I have to go to great lengths not to turn into a game smashing peice of shit. most of you are aware of this.

Im in my bb has it under control phase last few games.

[xorxes]

Mr flying boat, if you could be sure to be online at the end of the following night and claim your role and results then, you'd make all of us mafia players very fond of you.

Ill charm EMC and flash to be there. Ill even throw a bucket of charm at our teacher-friend mr bismarck.

Then im sure the only other player is the guy that thinks mafia is boring. He might be a bit tricker

JF should be subbed at EOD if he does not show up to post/vote.

[brainbomb]

Mr flying boat, if you could be sure to be online at the end of the following night and claim your role and results then, you'd make all of us mafia players very fond of you.

Ill charm EMC and flash to be there. Ill even throw a bucket of charm at our teacher-friend mr bismarck.

Then im sure the only other player is the guy that thinks mafia is boring. He might be a bit tricker

JF should be subbed at EOD if he does not show up to post/vote.

so what if that doesnt happen
what if there are no subs available
what if squiggs has to modkill

[Vecna]

I see senior bismarck online.

Care to make a statement on whether you will be able to be online at EoN2 to fullclaim one minute before deadline? which is roughly 69 hours from now?

[xorxes]

Mr flying boat, if you could be sure to be online at the end of the following night and claim your role and results then, you'd make all of us mafia players very fond of you.

Ill charm EMC and flash to be there. Ill even throw a bucket of charm at our teacher-friend mr bismarck.

Then im sure the only other player is the guy that thinks mafia is boring. He might be a bit tricker

JF should be subbed at EOD if he does not show up to post/vote.

so what if that doesnt happen
what if there are no subs available
what if squiggs has to modkill

That's out of our hands, not much we can do about it.

[brainbomb]

Are you guys going to sit here and tell me that if you are scoutmaster, and see the SCUM you scanned sitting on lead wagon, youre just gonna comply with a miskill because of protocol?

please tell me where the line of rigidity starts and stops. rigid thinking will lose you games bigtime

[brainbomb]

Under the tagline of, welp im cool with it. no point in keeping a vt alive, even if its a misfire.

[brainbomb]

3 PR are voting my chat buddy, and we have an actionable guilty in play that my chat buddy and I arent allowed to vote for because of procedures.

I find this despiriting

[rdrivera2005]

Rivera scum meta is to lay super low day one and make weirdo comments that hedge everything. Most of his day 1 was hedgy, abnormal, lurky and he kept blaming it on being too busy to be around. but hes proven repeatedly he is actually around and knows exaqctly what is happening, and knows the exact RIGHT side of the argument to be on in numerous instances.

I had 31 posts on D1, this isn't lurking to any standard to me. Show a post were I was hedgy? I was in favor of the massclaim webern not liking it personally. I even stated my scumread on both Bob and Macca way before to my buddy (which won't confirm now, please) in the private chat. You are making things up and this isn't townie.

[brainbomb]

Rivera scum meta is to lay super low day one and make weirdo comments that hedge everything. Most of his day 1 was hedgy, abnormal, lurky and he kept blaming it on being too busy to be around. but hes proven repeatedly he is actually around and knows exaqctly what is happening, and knows the exact RIGHT side of the argument to be on in numerous instances.

I had 31 posts on D1, this isn't lurking to any standard to me. Show a post were I was hedgy? I was in favor of the massclaim webern not liking it personally. I even stated my scumread on both Bob and Macca way before to my buddy (which won't confirm now, please) in the private chat. You are making things up and this isn't townie.

Why are you sharing scumreads in a private chat but not the game thread

[Hellenic Riot]

I agree that it would be better to fullclaim and lynch the guilty. The Scoutmaster may lose their scan tonight, but the Cool Guys can both use their at once so even if scum RB one scan then the other two will definitely go through. Throw in Quartermaster scans and we're going to get at least 3 scans tonight. It's better to therefore minimise the list of people who actually need to be scanned by getting as many clears as we can as fast as we can.

[Hellenic Riot]

We have 9 PR Claims, so we should get a minimum of 6 clears from the full claim. The QM may be able to give us a seventh clear. Three scans tonight and you're looking at 10 clears and autowin.

[xorxes]

I don't fully understand this "massclaim" thing, but it doesn't seem like a good idea.

How exactly does it help us?

If you do not understand it, why do you think it is not a good idea?

A PR/VT mass claim helps us by reducing the lynch pool. If all mafia avoid claiming to be a town PR, we immediately reduce the lynch pool from 20 to 12, increasing the chance of randomly lynching a scum from 25% to 41.7%. If any scum claim to be a town PR, it makes them much easier to sort later.

A scum can claim a VT or PR, how can that reduce lynch pool?

Especially in the case of all scum pick VT, how does that change the numbers?

I kinda just want someone to explain the math.

To the people voting for bozo: does this look like scum theater?

Would macca have been so stubbornly anti-massclaim if teammate bozo was endorsing it so wholeheartedly?

[Hellenic Riot]

In fact it's really really difficult to see how we can possibly lose if we just fullclaim now and lynch the guilty.

[xorxes]

Definitely panicked. As I've stated before, I get scared when people have more information than me. And all this massclaiming stuff is getting (read: is) very confusing.

Can you please ask us any questions you have about the mass claim? Do you plan on participating in the mass claim? The only claim we are looking for is PR or VT, not your specific role or the identity of your buddy.

Ok, some questions.

If I am a PR, what benefit would get from claiming either? Claiming PR for constancy, or VT to stop myself getting killed?

If I'm a VT what benefit could be got from lying and saying PR?

If I'm Scum, what benefit would I get from either choice?

Knowing how other peoples real states impact their choices is vital in understanding the effects of the massclaim. I don't wish to participate in something I don't understand.

Also this. bozo trying to convince a noob scumbuddy to claim seems like a weird kind of theater to me.

[Hellenic Riot]

Even with only two scans if scum get lucky on switches, you're still looking at having over half the game as clears by D3 with only 3 scum left.

[Durga]

In fact it's really really difficult to see how we can possibly lose if we just fullclaim now and lynch the guilty.

I agree with this. Just get it over with friends.

[xorxes]

I agree that it would be better to fullclaim and lynch the guilty. The Scoutmaster may lose their scan tonight, but the Cool Guys can both use their at once so even if scum RB one scan then the other two will definitely go through. Throw in Quartermaster scans and we're going to get at least 3 scans tonight. It's better to therefore minimise the list of people who actually need to be scanned by getting as many clears as we can as fast as we can.

No, only one of the Cool Guys will be active tonight, and we don't know what action the one that is active has already used.

And we have the night to figure out how to minimize the list of people who need to be scanned. It's better to get another day with real wagons to analyse first.

[xorxes]

@HR, do you have any comments on what I said about your Bob read? Why did you think it was scummy the way he answered brainbomb if you weren't thinking he was trying to protect macca? What do you think of Bob now?