Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[bozotheclown]

I will ##VOTE HR to see if anyone else has an interest in this.

HR came is very late to get Macca lynched over me, he is not one of my top choices among the VT claims.

[xorxes]

Yes because each of those roles is not directly cc-able without exposing both of them.

That was my concern when Bozo was demanding roleclaims at night.

That was a poor reason not to claim, and you just indicated you are 1 of those 2, which is not surprising.

It is an entirely valid reason because then with the CCs you'd be in a situation where there are three claims and only one of them is fake instead of the usual 50/50 split.

Now you are faced with the decision whether you want to be in a cc group with worcej or with me.

[Vecna]

One thing has been bothering me about HR. We were both suspicious of Bob because of the way he anticipated a response to brain when brain was asking macca something. I interpreted this as Bob trying to make sure noob scumbuddy macca did not scumslip by saying something they shouldn't. But HR did not pay any attention to macca and focused entirely on Bob, which is odd, because Bob "defending" macca in a way made no sense unless macca was scum. HR finally did vote for macca but with little conviction (and it would have been a tie if damo did not also vote seconds later). So... I don't know. I think HR might be scum if Bob is not.

Hmm ive been looking at that last minute vote and his reasoning surrounding it from a bunch of angles, and he looks weird with quite a number of different assumptions. This is one I didnt think of yet, lets hear him answer it.

Its also sort of funny you started the wagon on Macca for the wrong reasoning (bob+macca had a chat, so no reason to defend him in thread) but arrived at the correct conclusion still. Maybe thats why HR was a bit sour

[Durga]

I will ##VOTE HR to see if anyone else has an interest in this.

HR came is very late to get Macca lynched over me, he is not one of my top choices among the VT claims.

FWIW HR *lives* to bus as scum

[Jamiet99uk]

That was a poor reason not to claim, and you just indicated you are 1 of those 2, which is not surprising.

It is an entirely valid reason because then with the CCs you'd be in a situation where there are three claims and only one of them is fake instead of the usual 50/50 split.

Now you are faced with the decision whether you want to be in a cc group with worcej or with me.

No, that isn't up to me.

But since you and Bozothe**** are not going to shut up unless I claim, I am a First Aid Expert.

[Vecna]

The second part of the mass claim was for the PRs to claim if any scum claimed PR. I believe the optimal time to do that is now.

xorxes: TCG
Vecna:
flash:
emc:
TFB:
Bismarck:
JF:
Jamie: FAE or TCG
worcej: FAE
TRC: ?

Its not your call anymore, and were not doing it now darling

[Vecna]

I will ##VOTE HR to see if anyone else has an interest in this.

HR came is very late to get Macca lynched over me, he is not one of my top choices among the VT claims.

FWIW HR *lives* to bus as scum

Ive had a bunch of experiences where we were scum together and we actually lost those games because he was die-hard defending his scum teammates to the death.

[Durga]

HR came is very late to get Macca lynched over me, he is not one of my top choices among the VT claims.

FWIW HR *lives* to bus as scum

Ive had a bunch of experiences where we were scum together and we actually lost those games because he was die-hard defending his scum teammates to the death.

Haha what I need proof. I remember him bussing nonstop unless he's changed his meta . Anyway this strikes me as scum HR anyway. He's a bit more... Funny as town usually. As strange as this reasoning is.

[Vecna]

Ive been having that exact same feeling Durga.

His presence just feels "hostile" somehow

[xorxes]

One thing has been bothering me about HR. We were both suspicious of Bob because of the way he anticipated a response to brain when brain was asking macca something. I interpreted this as Bob trying to make sure noob scumbuddy macca did not scumslip by saying something they shouldn't. But HR did not pay any attention to macca and focused entirely on Bob, which is odd, because Bob "defending" macca in a way made no sense unless macca was scum. HR finally did vote for macca but with little conviction (and it would have been a tie if damo did not also vote seconds later). So... I don't know. I think HR might be scum if Bob is not.

Hmm ive been looking at that last minute vote and his reasoning surrounding it from a bunch of angles, and he looks weird with quite a number of different assumptions. This is one I didnt think of yet, lets hear him answer it.

Its also sort of funny you started the wagon on Macca for the wrong reasoning (bob+macca had a chat, so no reason to defend him in thread) but arrived at the correct conclusion still. Maybe thats why HR was a bit sour

I don't think the chat would have stopped him from defending him in thread. It's unlikely everyone is checking the chat before anything they post, and this interaction with bb was live, he did not have the time to go write in the chat and hope macca saw it before making a mistake.

But anyway, another reason he might have "defended" macca to an extent is that he felt protective of a chat buddy. I did not think of that possibility at the time.

[Vecna]

##vote HR

[rdrivera2005]

The second part of the mass claim was for the PRs to claim if any scum claimed PR. I believe the optimal time to do that is now.

xorxes: TCG
Vecna:
flash:
emc:
TFB:
Bismarck:
JF:
Jamie: FAE or TCG
worcej: FAE
TRC: ?

Why claiming now is better then claiming at EON? We should focus today on VTs.

[Vecna]

FWIW HR *lives* to bus as scum

Ive had a bunch of experiences where we were scum together and we actually lost those games because he was die-hard defending his scum teammates to the death.

Haha what I need proof. I remember him bussing nonstop unless he's changed his meta . Anyway this strikes me as scum HR anyway. He's a bit more... Funny as town usually. As strange as this reasoning is.

Or maybe im just misremembering it and I was the one defending him to death because he was some super OP scumrole and we were facing that equalizer bullshit role

[bozotheclown]

I will ##VOTE HR to see if anyone else has an interest in this.

HR came is very late to get Macca lynched over me, he is not one of my top choices among the VT claims.

FWIW HR *lives* to bus as scum

Vecna said this earlier:

The fast EoD movements also have potential implications:

Either scum was fast-switching to be part of the bus and some of the late movers were scum.

Or they were throwing under a lesser teammate to protect Bozo since scum was going down either way.

What do you make of HR tying the vote in the last minute?

From what i remember of HR he always hated bussing. If he's scum my guess would be he did it to save bozo and push it onto the lesser scum.

The way it went down live, I dont put too much importance on the fact he tied in that very moment since votes came flying in rapidly.

I was in one game where HR was scum, but it was the game that was terminated D2, and HR was not bussing in that game, because he was mostly voting for me. I will have to look at older games.

[brainbomb]

oh yes I remember that. Teacon crumbing "I am the first and the last" and he annihilated people right and left

[xorxes]

It is an entirely valid reason because then with the CCs you'd be in a situation where there are three claims and only one of them is fake instead of the usual 50/50 split.

Now you are faced with the decision whether you want to be in a cc group with worcej or with me.

No, that isn't up to me.

But since you and Bozothe**** are not going to shut up unless I claim, I am a First Aid Expert.

Two First Aid Experts. Let's see if a third one shows up. If none does before EON, you two are almost clear. Or very very lucky if TRC was that.

[BobMcBob]

scums already down 1 guy, trading scoutmaster for another scum seems great to me

Why do that when we can chance 2 scum? If scoutmaster scans another guilty tonight, we can potentially find 2 scum. Unless the scoutmaster is set to be lynched or they know they won't be on at EoN, it's worth the wait.

[bozotheclown]

xorxes: TCG
Vecna:
flash:
emc:
TFB:
Bismarck:
JF:
Jamie: FAE
worcej: FAE
TRC: ?

If there is another FAE they should claim now.

[Jamiet99uk]

Aww, everyone sitting around the campfire telling stories about Hellenic Riot.

Where is he anyway? He hasn't posted for a long while.

[Vecna]

Dont be encouraging anymore claims please xorxes, not until EoN2