Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[Durga]

durga really doesnt bus from what I recollect. she says bussing is fucking stupid in fact

Durga, is it true that you do not bus when you are mafia?

I think bussing is usually worthless as scum yes.

[damo666]

damo wagon dissolved in final 3 minutes, and macca wagon hit a boon. I wasnt desperate to save you bozo, but you are an asset and I thought we held greater value being a double nk than you getting lynched

OK, but if I assume you are town, and it looks like Bob is town unless he fabricated all of those Macca quotes (which also make you look more likely to be town), then there was at least 1 Macca busser, and potentially as many as 3.

Why does have to have fabricated the quotes?

[Donny Dude]

Hey Bozo if you think people should claim their specific role at night, why don't you go first?

OK, I am a VT.

Is there a particular reason to do this at night than day?

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey Bozo if you think people should claim their specific role at night, why don't you go first?

OK, I am a VT.

Oh right you didn't claim PR.

Do you think all the PRs should claim their specific roles now, during the night?

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey Bozo if you think people should claim their specific role at night, why don't you go first?

OK, I am a VT.

Is there a particular reason to do this at night than day?

Bozo seems to think so.

I am not convinced it is a good idea.

[Donny Dude]

Is anybody else other than me concerned that Damo's math will have overlooked someone or could lead us down a lot of town sent home?
To me some of the math checks out but then based upon assumption.

[brainbomb]

Is anybody else other than me concerned that Damo's math will have overlooked someone or could lead us down a lot of town sent home?
To me some of the math checks out but then based upon assumption.

oh donny, damo is our ferret. we let him run around shitting everywhere because hes very affectionate

[Jamiet99uk]

Is anybody else other than me concerned that Damo's math will have overlooked someone or could lead us down a lot of town sent home?
To me some of the math checks out but then based upon assumption.

The best thing to do, if you want my advice, is to place no more than 49.75% of your confidence in the results of his mathematical meanderings.

[Vecna]

Is anybody else other than me concerned that Damo's math will have overlooked someone or could lead us down a lot of town sent home?
To me some of the math checks out but then based upon assumption.

oh donny, damo is our ferret. we let him run around shitting everywhere because hes very affectionate

So far Damo was the deciding vote in lynching scum over a tie, so for now Damo is bae (but then again, ive been incorrectly townreading him a lot recently)

[bozotheclown]

PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob
Unclaimed: TRC

There are 2 or 3 scum in the VTs+TRC:

damo: Helped force the mass claim, broke the tie to get Macca lynched - likely town.

rdrivera: Supported mass claim, early Macca vote - possible scum.

HR: Placed a critical vote to lynch Macca - likely town.

Durga: Voted for me over Chaqa, but switched from me to Macca to help swing the lynch - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Donny: Voted for Chaqa but missed EOD - possible scum.

summit: Voted for Chaqa until he claimed, voted for worcej until he claimed, then voted for Macca to help get him lynched - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

brainbomb: Did not make a meaningful vote at EOD, but Macca interaction does not look like scum/scum - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Bob: It does not look like he fabricated the Macca quotes - likely town.

My best guess is rdrivera and Donny are mafia, with with either TRC scum, or TRC a PR, so that there are 2 scum in the PRs.

[bozotheclown]

Hey Bozo if you think people should claim their specific role at night, why don't you go first?

OK, I am a VT.

Oh right you didn't claim PR.

Do you think all the PRs should claim their specific roles now, during the night?

No, I think you should claim first, then other PRs should claim only if they can counterclaim you, but they should do it at EOD.

[Donny Dude]

Is anybody else other than me concerned that Damo's math will have overlooked someone or could lead us down a lot of town sent home?
To me some of the math checks out but then based upon assumption.

oh donny, damo is our ferret. we let him run around shitting everywhere because hes very affectionate

So far Damo was the deciding vote in lynching scum over a tie, so for now Damo is bae (but then again, ive been incorrectly townreading him a lot recently)

Alright. I think Damo is town.

[Donny Dude]

PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob
Unclaimed: TRC

There are 2 or 3 scum in the VTs+TRC:

damo: Helped force the mass claim, broke the tie to get Macca lynched - likely town.

rdrivera: Supported mass claim, early Macca vote - possible scum.

HR: Placed a critical vote to lynch Macca - likely town.

Durga: Voted for me over Chaqa, but switched from me to Macca to help swing the lynch - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Donny: Voted for Chaqa but missed EOD - possible scum.

summit: Voted for Chaqa until he claimed, voted for worcej until he claimed, then voted for Macca to help get him lynched - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

brainbomb: Did not make a meaningful vote at EOD, but Macca interaction does not look like scum/scum - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Bob: It does not look like he fabricated the Macca quotes - likely town.

My best guess is rdrivera and Donny are mafia, with with either TRC scum, or TRC a PR, so that there are 2 scum in the PRs.

I was at EOD, but got lunch and to deal with my dogs, and if I had time would have voted for Macca.
I still think Chaqa is scum.

[bozotheclown]

Hey Bozo if you think people should claim their specific role at night, why don't you go first?

OK, I am a VT.

Is there a particular reason to do this at night than day?

The reason to consider it N1 is the lack of role reveal, but with TRC still missing and Chaqa being subbed, there was no chance of a full claim happening N1. Since I think Chaqa looked like he was scum, my suggestion was that Jamie reveal his role, to give PRs a chance to counterclaim him at EOD. If Jamie is town, he could clear himself going forward, which would be helpful, since I think he is the top scum candidate among the PR claims.

[bozotheclown]

PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob
Unclaimed: TRC

There are 2 or 3 scum in the VTs+TRC:

damo: Helped force the mass claim, broke the tie to get Macca lynched - likely town.

rdrivera: Supported mass claim, early Macca vote - possible scum.

HR: Placed a critical vote to lynch Macca - likely town.

Durga: Voted for me over Chaqa, but switched from me to Macca to help swing the lynch - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Donny: Voted for Chaqa but missed EOD - possible scum.

summit: Voted for Chaqa until he claimed, voted for worcej until he claimed, then voted for Macca to help get him lynched - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

brainbomb: Did not make a meaningful vote at EOD, but Macca interaction does not look like scum/scum - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Bob: It does not look like he fabricated the Macca quotes - likely town.

My best guess is rdrivera and Donny are mafia, with with either TRC scum, or TRC a PR, so that there are 2 scum in the PRs.

I was at EOD, but got lunch and to deal with my dogs, and if I had time would have voted for Macca.
I still think Chaqa is scum.

I also believe Chaqa was scum, and although my initial reaction was to town read you for voting for Chaqa instead of me, you still look the most suspicious of the VT claimants who did not vote for Macca. Maybe there were 2 or more Macca bussers.

[Jamiet99uk]

OK, I am a VT.

Is there a particular reason to do this at night than day?

The reason to consider it N1 is the lack of role reveal, but with TRC still missing and Chaqa being subbed, there was no chance of a full claim happening N1. Since I think Chaqa looked like he was scum, my suggestion was that Jamie reveal his role, to give PRs a chance to counterclaim him at EOD. If Jamie is town, he could clear himself going forward, which would be helpful, since I think he is the top scum candidate among the PR claims.

Yeah Bozo that's wonderful but your proposal would also give scum some time to decide whether to NK me in light of my claim.

[Donny Dude]

PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob
Unclaimed: TRC

There are 2 or 3 scum in the VTs+TRC:

damo: Helped force the mass claim, broke the tie to get Macca lynched - likely town.

rdrivera: Supported mass claim, early Macca vote - possible scum.

HR: Placed a critical vote to lynch Macca - likely town.

Durga: Voted for me over Chaqa, but switched from me to Macca to help swing the lynch - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Donny: Voted for Chaqa but missed EOD - possible scum.

summit: Voted for Chaqa until he claimed, voted for worcej until he claimed, then voted for Macca to help get him lynched - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

brainbomb: Did not make a meaningful vote at EOD, but Macca interaction does not look like scum/scum - possible scum, but does not seem likely.

Bob: It does not look like he fabricated the Macca quotes - likely town.

My best guess is rdrivera and Donny are mafia, with with either TRC scum, or TRC a PR, so that there are 2 scum in the PRs.

I was at EOD, but got lunch and to deal with my dogs, and if I had time would have voted for Macca.
I still think Chaqa is scum.

I also believe Chaqa was scum, and although my initial reaction was to town read you for voting for Chaqa instead of me, you still look the most suspicious of the VT claimants who did not vote for Macca. Maybe there were 2 or more Macca bussers.

K. I still have you as town.

[bozotheclown]

damo wagon dissolved in final 3 minutes, and macca wagon hit a boon. I wasnt desperate to save you bozo, but you are an asset and I thought we held greater value being a double nk than you getting lynched

OK, but if I assume you are town, and it looks like Bob is town unless he fabricated all of those Macca quotes (which also make you look more likely to be town), then there was at least 1 Macca busser, and potentially as many as 3.

Why does have to have fabricated the quotes?

If Macca and Bob were both scum, there would be no reason for Macca to say the things Bob attributed to him, unless the scum did not know who the other scum were D1. I assume the setup would mention that the scum did not find out the identity of the scum team until N1 if that was the case.

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo, there is another problem with your plan that I should claim my specific role now.

However, I cannot set out this particular problem at this time, without helping scum to narrow down my role.

I am not going to provide a specific role claim right now, as I do not believe this would be in town's interests.

Thank you.

[bozotheclown]

Is there a particular reason to do this at night than day?

The reason to consider it N1 is the lack of role reveal, but with TRC still missing and Chaqa being subbed, there was no chance of a full claim happening N1. Since I think Chaqa looked like he was scum, my suggestion was that Jamie reveal his role, to give PRs a chance to counterclaim him at EOD. If Jamie is town, he could clear himself going forward, which would be helpful, since I think he is the top scum candidate among the PR claims.

Yeah Bozo that's wonderful but your proposal would also give scum some time to decide whether to NK me in light of my claim.

True, but I suspected Chaqa enough to make that trade off. The mafia NKing the most suspicious PR claimant would not be a bad result, since we would then know a scum is well hidden in the PRs, and we know the mafia can be sure to NK a PR anyway. Also, it would negate the hidden role reveal, since if you are NKed, we will know what your role was.