Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[worcej]

Hmm. If Macca did vote for a scummate it was Bob. Gets off xorxes when he sees it isn't going anywhere. Interesting he chose worcej's wagon rather than Bozo's wagon since macca didn't seem to like the thought of massclaiming.

Probably because bozo is scum and I was the only town option he had.

[xorxes]

People macca interacted with:

brain
xorxes
emc
Vecna
Durga
worcej
Bismark
bozo
Vecna
Donny
rivera
damo

Some of the interactions are neutral, but none gave me S-S vibes. The people they never interacted with are:

PR pool:
Chaqa
flash2015
JF1981
TheFlyingBoat

VT pool:
BobMcBob
Hellenic Riot
summit_fever

Unknown pool:
TheRealCottonmouth

I would not be surprised if the whole scumteam is in there.

[Vecna]

I would not be surprised if TRC is a town PR and 2 of Chaqa, worcej, and Vecna are scum.

Do you actually think you have been towny this game?

You going to sit there and think there are no valid reasons for people to scumread you?

[Vecna]

I suggest we have Chaqa, or his sub, claim his exact role and see if anyone counterclaims.

I think, we wait and see if he actually subs lol

I agree.
Should I tell who my buddy is yet?
I understand it is risky.

Noone should claim their buddy

[BismarckAlive]

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't think scum Macca would vote for scum Worcej that way.

Right, he also voted for worcej later. Yeah, I think we can consider worcej town.

I am not sure we can consider Macca's votes as confirming Worcej as Town. The dirty scouts did not have a day tent to coordinate. We can say Macca considered Worcej to be Town.

[rdrivera2005]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

You'll know tonight most likely.

The options for tonight are as follows:

1. EMC and I die, because I was wrong. LVP points for me.
2. Just I die, leading to some fun little gimmics about how EMC lived and will require exposure from the scum team to try to protect him.
3. Neither of us die, because EMC is scum and they're screwed now that I shoved this out into the open.

I know you might not agree, but I think you and Emc definitely should claim full role at EON.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't think scum Macca would vote for scum Worcej that way.

Right, he also voted for worcej later. Yeah, I think we can consider worcej town.

I am not sure we can consider Macca's votes as confirming Worcej as Town. The dirty scouts did not have a day tent to coordinate. We can say Macca considered Worcej to be Town.

This is a real townslip or what?

[Vecna]

Macca573 (7) : xorxes, rdrivera2005, bozotheclown, Durga, summit_fever, Hellenic Riot, damo666
bozotheclown (6) : JF1981, worcej, Vecna, BobMcBob, TheFlyingBoat, Chaqa worcej (2) : BismarckAlive, Macca573
brainbomb (1) : flash2015
flash2015 (1) : TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) : Donny Dude
damo666 (1) : brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) : e.m.c^42

summit also claimed VT.

It would be really weird if the scumteam was macca, Bob. Donny, TRC and one of JF/TFB. I doubt that's the case though.

Whose example do you actually think they wouldve been following in the claim?

Macca was being a little difficult with the claiming, but then suddenly he went for it. Although iirc he was the one that pretended to like damo's math that wasnt even correct.

[worcej]

I don't think scum Macca would vote for scum Worcej that way.

Right, he also voted for worcej later. Yeah, I think we can consider worcej town.

I am not sure we can consider Macca's votes as confirming Worcej as Town. The dirty scouts did not have a day tent to coordinate. We can say Macca considered Worcej to be Town.

...?

The scum team know who each of their teammates are on D1...

[xorxes]

I don't think scum Macca would vote for scum Worcej that way.

Right, he also voted for worcej later. Yeah, I think we can consider worcej town.

I am not sure we can consider Macca's votes as confirming Worcej as Town. The dirty scouts did not have a day tent to coordinate. We can say Macca considered Worcej to be Town.

Are you suggesting scum did not know who their teammates were?

[worcej]

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

You'll know tonight most likely.

The options for tonight are as follows:

1. EMC and I die, because I was wrong. LVP points for me.
2. Just I die, leading to some fun little gimmics about how EMC lived and will require exposure from the scum team to try to protect him.
3. Neither of us die, because EMC is scum and they're screwed now that I shoved this out into the open.

I know you might not agree, but I think you and Emc definitely should claim full role at EON.

I was going to with me making this move.

[Donny Dude]

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't know what to make of their refusal to claim. It seemed like they had their own reasons.
Chaqa just seemed mad it was a go to but kept arguing about the massclaim a lot.
Bob I should read again.

Is this post real? Did you not read anything I wrote?

I did ,and you did claim, which I had to go back and see.
You are now town in my opinion.

[Vecna]

These are the three lists I am focusing on at present:

PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, Worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, Macca, BobMcBob (10)

Unclaimed:
TRC

That was before Macca flipped Dirty, so new one is:

Massclaim Split
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, Worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)

Unclaimed:
TRC

Now, we know there are at least 1 dirty scout in the PR list, and at least 2 dirty scouts in the VT list

Mental Note: 4 Dirty Scouts left

bozotheclown train (when lot of people reading him as Town) (6) : JF1981, worcej, Vecna, BobMcBob, TheFlyingBoat, Chaqa

N1 Non-posters
BobMcBob, Durga, flash2015, JF1981, rdrivera2005, summit_fever, TheFlyingBoat
TheRealCottonmouth

Where do the three lines intersect?
JF1981, Bob McBob

Anybody else think Bob McBob is dirty? JF1981 sort-of clocked off spooked...

Cant really get over how different Bismarck is playing from last game.

Atm he is actually my pick for the scum in the PR claimants

[BobMcBob]

Okay, so I just finished skimming EoD, very odd way to end the day. Like emc(?) said, we got lucky that Macca flipped scum there. I'm gonna properly read up over the next hour or so and respond to anything I feel is worthwhile along the way. And in case you're wondering, I live in Australia and only woke up recently.

[xorxes]

Macca573 (7) : xorxes, rdrivera2005, bozotheclown, Durga, summit_fever, Hellenic Riot, damo666
bozotheclown (6) : JF1981, worcej, Vecna, BobMcBob, TheFlyingBoat, Chaqa worcej (2) : BismarckAlive, Macca573
brainbomb (1) : flash2015
flash2015 (1) : TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) : Donny Dude
damo666 (1) : brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) : e.m.c^42

summit also claimed VT.

It would be really weird if the scumteam was macca, Bob. Donny, TRC and one of JF/TFB. I doubt that's the case though.

Whose example do you actually think they wouldve been following in the claim?

Macca was being a little difficult with the claiming, but then suddenly he went for it. Although iirc he was the one that pretended to like damo's math that wasnt even correct.

If that's the team, they were completely lost, they were all late claimers. Maybe JF/TFB took worcej's advice, I don't know.

[Vecna]

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

You'll know tonight most likely.

The options for tonight are as follows:

1. EMC and I die, because I was wrong. LVP points for me.
2. Just I die, leading to some fun little gimmics about how EMC lived and will require exposure from the scum team to try to protect him.
3. Neither of us die, because EMC is scum and they're screwed now that I shoved this out into the open.

I know you might not agree, but I think you and Emc definitely should claim full role at EON.

It might be a case of everyone or noone.

It really would be great if the last person to claim would pop in here so we can decide what is optimal.

[bozotheclown]

I would not be surprised if TRC is a town PR and 2 of Chaqa, worcej, and Vecna are scum.

Do you actually think you have been towny this game?

You going to sit there and think there are no valid reasons for people to scumread you?

Yes, because I am town, therefore whatever I do is town like by definition.

However, I probably would have also pushed the mass claim if I was scum.

[BismarckAlive]

These are the three lists I am focusing on at present:

PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, Worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, Macca, BobMcBob (10)

Unclaimed:
TRC

That was before Macca flipped Dirty, so new one is:

Massclaim Split
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, Worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)

Unclaimed:
TRC

Now, we know there are at least 1 dirty scout in the PR list, and at least 2 dirty scouts in the VT list

Mental Note: 4 Dirty Scouts left

bozotheclown train (when lot of people reading him as Town) (6) : JF1981, worcej, Vecna, BobMcBob, TheFlyingBoat, Chaqa

N1 Non-posters
BobMcBob, Durga, flash2015, JF1981, rdrivera2005, summit_fever, TheFlyingBoat
TheRealCottonmouth

Where do the three lines intersect?
JF1981, Bob McBob

Anybody else think Bob McBob is dirty? JF1981 sort-of clocked off spooked...

Cant really get over how different Bismarck is playing from last game.

Atm he is actually my pick for the scum in the PR claimants

I will take this as a compliment on my scum hunting abilities.

[BismarckAlive]

Right, he also voted for worcej later. Yeah, I think we can consider worcej town.

I am not sure we can consider Macca's votes as confirming Worcej as Town. The dirty scouts did not have a day tent to coordinate. We can say Macca considered Worcej to be Town.

...?

The scum team know who each of their teammates are on D1...

How do you know? There was nothing about that in the setup...

[bozotheclown]

The mafia chat is exceedingly empty, because nobody can chat in it. It's daytime. obviously.

This could be a scum slip, since I believe the setup does not specifically say the mafia chat in night only.