Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[xorxes]

Macca573 (7) : xorxes, rdrivera2005, bozotheclown, Durga, summit_fever, Hellenic Riot, damo666
bozotheclown (6) : JF1981, worcej, Vecna, BobMcBob, TheFlyingBoat, Chaqa worcej (2) : BismarckAlive, Macca573
brainbomb (1) : flash2015
flash2015 (1) : TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) : Donny Dude
damo666 (1) : brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) : e.m.c^42

summit also claimed VT.

It would be really weird if the scumteam was macca, Bob. Donny, TRC and one of JF/TFB. I doubt that's the case though.

[xorxes]

Liking vecna most so far for his grumpy old man meta.

emc is back on his early and often meta which is hard for him to do as scum over time. stay awhile and listen.

xorx pretty muted but nothing unsettling.

rivera early, but not much.

donny with a reachy read on emc already is interesting. probably wont day 1 donny 2 games in a row but definetely sets off my brainytingles.

This seems to be brain's post that made macca say he knew too much. Only scumleanish there seems to be Donny.

[Donny Dude]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

[xorxes]

Before going to bed, I am going to make a first tentative townlean list, in no particular order: brain, emc, worcej, Donny, rivera (@rivera, don't get spooked).

I am also happy that HR had similar thoughts as I did, happy that summit declared me town (I'm easily pocketable like that), and reasonably happy with Vecna thinking more or less opposite than me. Also TheRealCottonmouth's entrance does not look like a scum entrance. Need more from them though.

That leaves: Bob, macca, Chaqa, flash, Durga, damo who have posted, and Bismark, bozo, JF, The FlyingBoat as the non-posters. Most of the scum are probably among these 10.

And this is where he said I knew too much. This reminds me that flash is playing. I had forgotten he was in this game.

[xorxes]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

[BismarckAlive]

N1 Non-posters
BobMcBob
Durga
flash2015
JF1981
rdrivera2005
summit_fever
TheFlyingBoat
TheRealCottonmouth

Is this because the discussion in the Dirty Scout tent is intense, with a lot of strategising, discussing the thread, ruminating their kill(s)? How many scum in this list?

[rdrivera2005]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't think scum Macca would vote for scum Worcej that way.

[Donny Dude]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't know what to make of their refusal to claim. It seemed like they had their own reasons.
Chaqa just seemed mad it was a go to but kept arguing about the massclaim a lot.
Bob I should read again.

[rdrivera2005]

N1 Non-posters
BobMcBob
Durga
flash2015
JF1981
rdrivera2005
summit_fever
TheFlyingBoat
TheRealCottonmouth

Is this because the discussion in the Dirty Scout tent is intense, with a lot of strategising, discussing the thread, ruminating their kill(s)? How many scum in this list?

Didn't saw this message before posting, but my timing was perfect again.

[rdrivera2005]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't know what to make of their refusal to claim. It seemed like they had their own reasons.
Chaqa just seemed mad it was a go to but kept arguing about the massclaim a lot.
Bob I should read again.

Maybe my first feeling was right and Bob is scum.

[xorxes]

I dunno, people tend to keep trying scumreading and voting me (in not insignificant numbers) even when vecna does obvtown me. I guess I just give off that kind of vibe.

I understand your pain. Know I am not really scumming you, if that gives you any sort of joy/happiness.

I'm just scared of someone with a lot more information than me. You could have town read me, and I'd be just the same.

This was macca thinking he was responding to me. Him confusing me and worcej gives worcej some townie points.

[xorxes]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't think scum Macca would vote for scum Worcej that way.

Right, he also voted for worcej later. Yeah, I think we can consider worcej town.

[rdrivera2005]

I understand your pain. Know I am not really scumming you, if that gives you any sort of joy/happiness.

I'm just scared of someone with a lot more information than me. You could have town read me, and I'd be just the same.

This was macca thinking he was responding to me. Him confusing me and worcej gives worcej some townie points.

He voted to put Worcej in the lead with six votes, don't see him bussing this way.

[worcej]

Since we got lucky, time to have my fun... BUDDY CLAIM TIME!!!!!!!

EMC is my buddy and I think he is scum. Our QT focused on him caring about getting me to claim and ultimately saying the conversation was too overpowering for him to contribute. I call BS on this because he abused and posted a TON in the neighborhood QT and this time was just meh.

I'll take my solace in either being right or at least getting the GT.

This is a risky move if you really are a town PR. I doubt emc is scum.

We'll see if it works.

[worcej]

I suggest we have Chaqa, or his sub, claim his exact role and see if anyone counterclaims.

I think, we wait and see if he actually subs lol

I agree.
Should I tell who my buddy is yet?
I understand it is risky.

I hope you don't. Let's see if my read on EMC is right.

[worcej]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

You'll know tonight most likely.

The options for tonight are as follows:

1. EMC and I die, because I was wrong. LVP points for me.
2. Just I die, leading to some fun little gimmics about how EMC lived and will require exposure from the scum team to try to protect him.
3. Neither of us die, because EMC is scum and they're screwed now that I shoved this out into the open.

[BismarckAlive]

These are the three lists I am focusing on at present:

PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, Worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, Macca, BobMcBob (10)

Unclaimed:
TRC

That was before Macca flipped Dirty, so new one is:

Massclaim Split
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, Worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)

Unclaimed:
TRC

Now, we know there are at least 1 dirty scout in the PR list, and at least 2 dirty scouts in the VT list

Mental Note: 4 Dirty Scouts left

bozotheclown train (when lot of people reading him as Town) (6) : JF1981, worcej, Vecna, BobMcBob, TheFlyingBoat, Chaqa

N1 Non-posters
BobMcBob, Durga, flash2015, JF1981, rdrivera2005, summit_fever, TheFlyingBoat
TheRealCottonmouth

Where do the three lines intersect?
JF1981, Bob McBob

Anybody else think Bob McBob is dirty? JF1981 sort-of clocked off spooked...

[worcej]

That would be really weird and new sided
Have any of the others showed scum tendencies other than not posting a lot in your opinion?

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't know what to make of their refusal to claim. It seemed like they had their own reasons.
Chaqa just seemed mad it was a go to but kept arguing about the massclaim a lot.
Bob I should read again.

Is this post real? Did you not read anything I wrote?

[summit_fever]

This is my first webdip Mafia game, and mate... there's a lot, and I don't understand most of it.

If anyone has any tips I'd really appreciate it.

hows maf chat so far?

The mafia chat is exceedingly empty, because nobody can chat in it. It's daytime. obviously.

This is my first webdip Mafia game, and mate... there's a lot, and I don't understand most of it.

If anyone has any tips I'd really appreciate it.

hows maf chat so far?

Really great, we're having a hoot of a time!

##Vote bobmcbob

Ahh, so to vote you go:

##Vote bobmcbob

That's the syntax?

Macca later claimed his bob vote was a joke.

Definitely panicked. As I've stated before, I get scared when people have more information than me. And all this massclaiming stuff is getting (read: is) very confusing.

Ask for clatification if something is unclear instead of panicking.

What information do you think I have that you don't?

What did brainbomb say that made you think he had too much information when you voted for him?

Why did you vote for Bob as your first vote?

Bob was first for a joke. I asked about the Syntax from a copy that included him.

I then voted for brain since he seemed to know a lot, and he was on at the time, so I was more aware of him.

It then became Xorxes because of the knowledge he was spewing.

Since then, a lot of people have said a lot, and it seems everyone has knowledge orders of magnitude above mine.

I don't know enough to make good reads, so I instead aim to level the playing field.

Hmm. If Macca did vote for a scummate it was Bob. Gets off xorxes when he sees it isn't going anywhere. Interesting he chose worcej's wagon rather than Bozo's wagon since macca didn't seem to like the thought of massclaiming.

[worcej]

Bob, Chaqa and worcej, I would say at this point. But worcej may be town.

I don't think scum Macca would vote for scum Worcej that way.

Right, he also voted for worcej later. Yeah, I think we can consider worcej town.

Well duh dude - I've been hardcore shoving my town ego down your throat all game so far!