Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[brainbomb]

bozo should not be lynched today.

I am in a chat with him. and I think its better value for town at this point to just reveal this info.

[Donny Dude]

I agree with the points being made and think this is very scummy.
I await your claim.
##vote Chaqa

[Donny Dude]

bozo should not be lynched today.

I am in a chat with him. and I think its better value for town at this point to just reveal this info.

Have you completely forgotten about the double nk mech for the buddy chat?

[summit_fever]

bozo should not be lynched today.

I am in a chat with him. and I think its better value for town at this point to just reveal this info.

1. e4 e5
2. f4 ...

[brainbomb]

Kings Gambit is actually my fav white opening

[brainbomb]

playing e5 as black speaks character tho

[bozotheclown]

bozo should not be lynched today.

I am in a chat with him. and I think its better value for town at this point to just reveal this info.

1. e4 e5
2. f4 ...

That is an interesting play. Would the mafia want to NK 2 VTs when they already have at least 3 scum claiming VT? Or maybe brainbomb is scum.

[Vecna]

real men play b3

[Chaqa]

Well I’m in no rush to claim nor do I understand the benefit of doing so.

With 17 people having already claimed do you think you still have an option to not claim? You have played enough to know the pros and cons of a massclaim and also to know that after 7 (maybe less) PR claimed there is no town reason to not claim.

I've asked a few times for people to explain the benefit of this massclaim to me, and as of yet no one has done so.

Until someone reasonably explains why it's beneficial, it seems like a scum tactic to me.

[Chaqa]

-snipped-

@Chaqa
Aside from making an awful big deal out of not reading the setup or indeed the game, what exactly are you hoping to achieve by both holding out on claiming and by not attempting to find the mafia here? And how exactly do you anticipate being read for such a zero effort game?

I asked someone to explain why we're doing this and what we get from it. No one has yet.

This seems at the moment very much like all my friends are jumping off a bridge and saying I should too.

[Chaqa]

Also lol at voting for me.

I'm completely immune to pressure votes. If you think I'm scum, sure, but if you're voting for me because you want me to claim, explain why this is a good idea at all.

Or maybe I'll just refuse unilaterally and go down with the integrity of the game.

[Durga]

Omg Chaqa just reveal so we can get on with our lives. Don't play like this it's anti town.

[Chaqa]

Omg Chaqa just reveal so we can get on with our lives. Don't play like this it's anti town.

Every person who criticizes me but doesn't explain the rationale behind the massclaim is just proving my point.

If it was so pro-town, you'd all have the reasoning lined up.

Someone let you all get distracted by this nonsense the entire first day.

[worcej]

I was in the Mafia team in that game. It broke the game in town's favor. You can say it break the game but not that it's bad for town, it makes no sense.

I'll condense this down for you:

Based on the setup of this game, a smart scum team should be able to take advantage of the claims in this game because nothing is truly verifiable other than alignment on flips. The scum team should at minimum have 2 PR claims and they should sort themselves into the two piles of two town PRs, thus having a 2 3-way standoff situations. The scum continue to kill in the PR pile and keep the VT pile as high as possible as we continue to lynch only in that pool.

Bismarck is correct that you seem to be advising the mafia. The only way we will have 2 scum PRs claims is if you, Chaqa, and TRC claim PR. Are you telling them that is what they should do?

No, I am putting a spotlight on the issue your massclaim had to begin with if you would've just taken the time to think it through.

It is incredibly scummy that you ignored how this claim will effect the rest of the game. You're trading the effectiveness of our town mechanics away for borderline useful information.

That's like trading a Revised Edition Volcanic Island for a Gaea's Cradle - It's a shit trade.

(shout out to my MTG homies)

[brainbomb]

Chaqa is a 1/1 merfolk with islandwalk right now

[worcej]

Also lol at voting for me.

I'm completely immune to pressure votes. If you think I'm scum, sure, but if you're voting for me because you want me to claim, explain why this is a good idea at all.

Or maybe I'll just refuse unilaterally and go down with the integrity of the game.

<3 your conviction

Watch as the whole bozo wagon fades and everyone just moves to you because it's once again convenient to switch to an obstinate player...

[worcej]

Chaqa is a 1/1 merfolk with islandwalk right now

Those MF'ers are deadly.

[worcej]

Omg Chaqa just reveal so we can get on with our lives. Don't play like this it's anti town.

Every person who criticizes me but doesn't explain the rationale behind the massclaim is just proving my point.

If it was so pro-town, you'd all have the reasoning lined up.

Someone let you all get distracted by this nonsense the entire first day.

Jump on the scum!bozo wagon then - he started it once again and even doubled down with the comment that we would reveal our PRs completely to get the scum narrowed down.

[Durga]

Omg Chaqa just reveal so we can get on with our lives. Don't play like this it's anti town.

Every person who criticizes me but doesn't explain the rationale behind the massclaim is just proving my point.

If it was so pro-town, you'd all have the reasoning lined up.

Someone let you all get distracted by this nonsense the entire first day.

Is it not better to know where the discrepancy is at this point? I agree we shouldn't have claimed from the get go but now I feel the information will be more valuable to us. They have enough PR's to try to kill anyway, best we should attempt to figure out where scum is hiding. What's your reluctance? You should have an idea if the PR group has some scum in it or not by this point since you're one of the three that hasn't revealed. I'm not sure what we gain now from 3 people hiding their alliance. I'd only have hesitation now if I were scum because I wouldn't want to solidify the numbers on each side.

[worcej]

Holy shit, I just realized I am posting at an incredible BB rate.

Talk about non-meta activity. You should all just lynch me for that and be done with it, since you all seem to only give a crap about differences between players to justify D1 votes.