Violence in the US after killing by police.

[Jamiet99uk]

Yank cops kill a Yank resisting arrested, and thousands of other Yanks use it as an excuse to nick a load of stuff and go on a rampage?

Just Yanks being Yanks. Who gives a damn?

Wow.

Octavious this is tone deaf and deeply ignorant and you should know better.

You would normally lecture the hell out of me for a post like that.

Jesus.

[Octavious]

Tone death? Why on earth should the rest of the world care? More people have died in the protests than the event their protesting against, and I dare say considerably more will catch Covid-19 because of it.

100,000 Yanks have died from the virus recently. This is a tragic event for the family but it appears to be being investigated properly, and the reality is that as tragedies go it is a very small blip on a very busy radar.

[Octavious]

But yes, you're right. It did come across as unnecessarily callous.

[Jamiet99uk]

Tone death? Why on earth should the rest of the world care? More people have died in the protests than the event their protesting against, and I dare say considerably more will catch Covid-19 because of it.

100,000 Yanks have died from the virus recently. This is a tragic event for the family but it appears to be being investigated properly, and the reality is that as tragedies go it is a very small blip on a very busy radar.

Are you drunk?

[Fluminator]

Yank cops kill a Yank resisting arrested, and thousands of other Yanks use it as an excuse to nick a load of stuff and go on a rampage?

Just Yanks being Yanks. Who gives a damn?

What the fuck Octavious? I normally like the things you post but what is this? Do you have any idea what happened?

[Fluminator]

The news reports that stated he was resisting arrest

Even if he was both guilty and resisting arrest (which all the evidence so far points to it not being so) he was still slowly and brutally murdered on camera. He was far and away no longer a danger and the normal excuse of "it was a snap decision" doesn't hold any water in this situation.

[Fluminator]

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/nationa ... s/2435310/

[orathaic]

The news reports that stated he was resisting arrest

Even if he was both guilty and resisting arrest (which all the evidence so far points to it not being so) he was still slowly and brutally murdered on camera. He was far and away no longer a danger and the normal excuse of "it was a snap decision" doesn't hold any water in this situation.

And again, this was not a single incident, this happens the same week white supremacy demonstrated on camera that a white woman can threaten a bird watcher in a park with calling the police because of the colour of his skin.

This was part of a pattern, where the same police officer had multiple other complaints against him in the past dismissed.

The is part of life for Americans of Colour, who teach their children to fear the police. And the best course of action to avoid being killed by them in public.

The social contract is broken. And yes, rioting should not be a surprising result to anyone who has been paying attention.

[orathaic]

When the owner of looted stores decide to send first aid supplies, because he gets it:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/targe ... s-protests

[Octavious]

The news reports that stated he was resisting arrest

Even if he was both guilty and resisting arrest (which all the evidence so far points to it not being so) he was still slowly and brutally murdered on camera. He was far and away no longer a danger and the normal excuse of "it was a snap decision" doesn't hold any water in this situation.

My point was not to justify the actions of the cop, nor to suggest that people who resist arrest deserve death (which is utterly ludicrous, and I'm amazed that anyone thought that was my intent). My point is that this event is very small beer compared to everything else that is going on in the world.

[Randomizer]

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-ob ... 09061.html

Trump's choice to blame in the last widespread protests and riots over police murdering a suspect, the guy running the White House, the President.

[Jamiet99uk]

The news reports that stated he was resisting arrest

Even if he was both guilty and resisting arrest (which all the evidence so far points to it not being so) he was still slowly and brutally murdered on camera. He was far and away no longer a danger and the normal excuse of "it was a snap decision" doesn't hold any water in this situation.

My point was not to justify the actions of the cop, nor to suggest that people who resist arrest deserve death (which is utterly ludicrous, and I'm amazed that anyone thought that was my intent). My point is that this event is very small beer compared to everything else that is going on in the world.

You just don't get it, do you?

The fact that large numbers of people, living in one of the theoretically most developed nations on Earth, live in fear that their police will murder or oppress them based solely on the colour of their skin, is not "small beer".

[Randomizer]

There was a recent video of a black man lying on the ground putting his hands behind his back as the white police had their dog repeatedly bite him in his leg. Instead of defending himself from the dog, he keeps moving his hands behind his back every time the bites cause him to move. He said later he was afraid the police would shoot him if he defended himself from being bitten.

Here are others:
https://www.wbur.org/npr/563973584/vide ... -dog-bites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZef8NLme2E

[Octavious]

The fact that large numbers of people, living in one of the theoretically most developed nations on Earth, live in fear that their police will murder or oppress them based solely on the colour of their skin, is not "small beer".

A single incident of someone being killed by a policeman and the incident being swiftly investigated, however, is. What exactly do you want the authorities to do in this case that they are not already doing?

[flash2015]

The fact that large numbers of people, living in one of the theoretically most developed nations on Earth, live in fear that their police will murder or oppress them based solely on the colour of their skin, is not "small beer".

A single incident of someone being killed by a policeman and the incident being swiftly investigated, however, is. What exactly do you want the authorities to do in this case that they are not already doing?

Some genuine reform so that we can minimize/avoid these incidents in the future (Cuomo offered some ideas)? This was not an isolated incident. People have been complaining about brutality for decades. Remember Rodney King in the 80s?

[Randomizer]

A single incident of someone being killed by a policeman and the incident being swiftly investigated, however, is. What exactly do you want the authorities to do in this case that they are not already doing?

This isn't a single incident in Minnesota and there have been several others in the last month across the country. Only recently have there been videos to prove the "official" police reports are wrong. Police routinely don't have their video cameras turned on like they are supposed to and have been caught turning them off to cover up illegal behavior.

[Octavious]

Remember Rodney King in the 80s?

Never heard of him. America is a strange land a long way away in which many thousands are murdered every year, and over 100,000 have died this year if a new virus, and well over 100,000 die yearly due to accidents. Surprisingly enough I don't remember one American death from the 80s

[Jamiet99uk]

The fact that large numbers of people, living in one of the theoretically most developed nations on Earth, live in fear that their police will murder or oppress them based solely on the colour of their skin, is not "small beer".

A single incident of someone being killed by a policeman and the incident being swiftly investigated, however, is. What exactly do you want the authorities to do in this case that they are not already doing?

Why are you so keen to treat this as an isolated incident rather than just one small part of a much more significant problem?

[Jamiet99uk]

Remember Rodney King in the 80s?

Never heard of him. America is a strange land a long way away in which many thousands are murdered every year, and over 100,000 have died this year if a new virus, and well over 100,000 die yearly due to accidents. Surprisingly enough I don't remember one American death from the 80s

If America is so unimportant and far away, why do you feel the need to constantly respond to discussions about things which happen there? Things which, to judge from your words, you are not concerned or interested in. Yet, here you are.

[Octavious]

All my posts in this thread have been in reply to posts from others, aside from the first which was a couple of sentences long. But I am quite interested in the obsession on American domestic policy that some non Americans have, and the spread of the Antifa plague.