M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

One note for the town among you:

On day 3 my wagon was you (the town person) AND the entire scum team trying to get a mislynch on the substitute.

To be complete, the other option from your POV is that it was scum v scum and both Chaq and Damo were going to bus the best hidden member of the team? Damo was done, and Chaq nearly so.

When Chaq could have hidden better by just lynching Damo and being done.

And knowing the JOATs power wouldn’t even help them hide, AND that it actually wasn’t mylo. They needed that mislynch

[BunnyGo]

Hence why it looks much more plausible that you were a teammate of Chaqa, hence him waiting till the bare end to switch votes and thus not risking you actually getting lynched with a double-voter on you. Because that wouldve insta-outted the entire scumteam, if that is what it is.

True. But they already knew they’d spent the double vote power. So why waste it on bussing me (in the case from your POV that I’m scum)?

They had other targets to push.

[kgray]

One note for the town among you:

On day 3 my wagon was you (the town person) AND the entire scum team trying to get a mislynch on the substitute.

To be complete, the other option from your POV is that it was scum v scum and both Chaq and Damo were going to bus the best hidden member of the team? Damo was done, and Chaq nearly so.

When Chaq could have hidden better by just lynching Damo and being done.

Even if you were the best-hidden member of the team, you were on a few people's radars. But I think the fact that Chaqa waited until the last second to switch to you really makes it seem like he was going for another tie rather than a mislynch. And, like you said, Chaqa wasn't hiding very well. You and I were the only ones that didn't have him as a scumread, I think.

[Vecna]

It feels you dont have a lot to contribute Kgray. 2 walls with mainly things that have been said before.

C'mon, keep convincing me im making the right choice here

[BunnyGo]

To be complete, the other option from your POV is that it was scum v scum and both Chaq and Damo were going to bus the best hidden member of the team? Damo was done, and Chaq nearly so.

When Chaq could have hidden better by just lynching Damo and being done.

Even if you were the best-hidden member of the team, you were on a few people's radars. But I think the fact that Chaqa waited until the last second to switch to you really makes it seem like he was going for another tie rather than a mislynch. And, like you said, Chaqa wasn't hiding very well. You and I were the only ones that didn't have him as a scumread, I think.

True. Why was Damo on me then? We never bussed each other last game. And he was the double vote. My theory, they knew that a town was already voting me and they’d done the math.

[BunnyGo]

It feels you dont have a lot to contribute Kgray. 2 walls with mainly things that have been said before.

C'mon, keep convincing me im making the right choice here

Hey! We’re all here. Isn’t this fun.

[Vecna]

my evening plans were cancelled, so im just getting drunk with the wifey now

[BunnyGo]

So @either of you what is town!Bunny doing and thinking? Put yourself in town!Bunny shoes and try to think about why I’m talking like this.

[BunnyGo]

my evening plans were cancelled, so im just getting drunk with the wifey now

Strong approval. Are you located in Europe?

[Vecna]

yep

[Vecna]

Bunny, youre still taking like youre trying to convince Kgray that im scum in a lot of your posts.

Ill say this though: In the event that you are town and I am currently voting wrong, that is the wrong tree youre ritualistically barking at.

It is I you will have to convince if youre town

[kgray]

It feels you dont have a lot to contribute Kgray. 2 walls with mainly things that have been said before.

C'mon, keep convincing me im making the right choice here

Yes, it feels this way to me too.... I have reread and those are the things I think are important, so I'm trying to figure out what they mean. I keep getting stuck second-guessing everything.

For example, I think Bunny is scum and you're town. I don't see a reason to change my reads drastically just because Tom was the last NK, because from my perspective that just makes it less likely that Bunny isn't scum. I agree with what you said about not wanting to go against my game-long reads in the last day. But I can also see exactly why scum!Vecna would kill Tom and keep Bunny and I around, and further why you'd want me agreeing with that sentiment.

[BunnyGo]

Bunny, youre still taking like youre trying to convince Kgray that im scum in a lot of your posts.

Ill say this though: In the event that you are town and I am currently voting wrong, that is the wrong tree youre ritualistically barking at.

It is I you will have to convince if youre town

Exactly. How can Town!bunny win here? I have TWO major hurdles to clear. What are they?

[BunnyGo]

Bunny, youre still taking like youre trying to convince Kgray that im scum in a lot of your posts.

Ill say this though: In the event that you are town and I am currently voting wrong, that is the wrong tree youre ritualistically barking at.

It is I you will have to convince if youre town

Exactly. How can Town!bunny win here? I have TWO major hurdles to clear. What are they?

Or more precisely, what situations can I not win mechanically?

[Vecna]

It feels you dont have a lot to contribute Kgray. 2 walls with mainly things that have been said before.

C'mon, keep convincing me im making the right choice here

Yes, it feels this way to me too.... I have reread and those are the things I think are important, so I'm trying to figure out what they mean. I keep getting stuck second-guessing everything.

For example, I think Bunny is scum and you're town. I don't see a reason to change my reads drastically just because Tom was the last NK, because from my perspective that just makes it less likely that Bunny isn't scum. I agree with what you said about not wanting to go against my game-long reads in the last day. But I can also see exactly why scum!Vecna would kill Tom and keep Bunny and I around, and further why you'd want me agreeing with that sentiment.

I would have never ever killed Bozo though if I was scum. He wouldve been a guaranteed player to keep around to lynch Bunny.

[kgray]

When Chaq could have hidden better by just lynching Damo and being done.

Even if you were the best-hidden member of the team, you were on a few people's radars. But I think the fact that Chaqa waited until the last second to switch to you really makes it seem like he was going for another tie rather than a mislynch. And, like you said, Chaqa wasn't hiding very well. You and I were the only ones that didn't have him as a scumread, I think.

True. Why was Damo on me then? We never bussed each other last game. And he was the double vote. My theory, they knew that a town was already voting me and they’d done the math.

Well I was the only one on you when Damo voted you... Vecna was on Chaqa and bozo was on Tom. Tom wasn't likely to be lynched, so yeah, you were definitely the most promising mislynch target at the time if you're town, especially with me tunneling.

[kgray]

So @either of you what is town!Bunny doing and thinking? Put yourself in town!Bunny shoes and try to think about why I’m talking like this.

Yeah, I've already noted that you seem to be open minded and questioning. That could certainly come from town!Bunny trying to figure out the game.

Could also come from scum!Bunny trying to figure out which of Vecna or I is more likely to vote for the other.

[BunnyGo]

There were more on Tom at the time, but it didn’t seem likely they could get away with that one.

[Vecna]

Bunny, youre still taking like youre trying to convince Kgray that im scum in a lot of your posts.

Ill say this though: In the event that you are town and I am currently voting wrong, that is the wrong tree youre ritualistically barking at.

It is I you will have to convince if youre town

Exactly. How can Town!bunny win here? I have TWO major hurdles to clear. What are they?

You have to convince me youre town and you have to make sure that im not scum

[Vecna]

Bunny, youre still taking like youre trying to convince Kgray that im scum in a lot of your posts.

Ill say this though: In the event that you are town and I am currently voting wrong, that is the wrong tree youre ritualistically barking at.

It is I you will have to convince if youre town

Exactly. How can Town!bunny win here? I have TWO major hurdles to clear. What are they?

Or more precisely, what situations can I not win mechanically?

Itd get hard for you if I endvote now while Kgray is around