M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

So here’s my one problem. I’ve been on kgrays case since joining. If she is scum, and her partners were easily seen to go, why leave me alive? They tried setting me as a counter wagon before. But she’s risking a lot to leave me alive and hope vecna doesn’t join with me.

Hmm.

[BunnyGo]

So here’s my one problem. I’ve been on kgrays case since joining. If she is scum, and her partners were easily seen to go, why leave me alive? They tried setting me as a counter wagon before. But she’s risking a lot to leave me alive and hope vecna doesn’t join with me.

Hmm.

I would think scum!kgrays kill SHOULD have been me to set tom and vecna on each other.

I think this may have changed after she framed me for missing the hammer. She shouldn’t have posted at all before finding out that rule if she’s scum. The delay when she “forgot” to hammer was telling.

[BunnyGo]

I suppose since vecna has voted me every day (I had to go check). So scum!kgray could be setting me up.

Frame me for the hammer (with her evidence of checking the rules).


So why would scum!vecna leave me alive with kgray? We’ve been at each other. In all honesty I had decided (and I think I made a post saying this) that she was defending herself like town!kgray.

[Vecna]

So, just reread all of Kgray's iso. Wouldve been a real stellar performance from either scum or town minus some obvious mishaps.

If town, she pretty much solved the game from page17 onwards with a bit of a weaker read on chaqa but strong scumreads on both N/B slot and damo. If she's scum that ofcourse changes to a null/scumread on her teammates, which is probably the default.

Loads of reasons that I townread her over initially for mindmeld -could- have both come from town & scum (such as heckling tom (and chaqa, but less?) over the initial attack on damo for finding weak reasons to vote Xorxes.

Also hopped on my strong townread of damo for quite some time, to state that damo played the exact same way as town. After initial scumreading the slot, in the mid-game wagon on Damo she was advocating against it (which was the day before the vote doubler was activated). I should probably double-check that game she claimed damo was playing the exact same as town to make sure this was indeed the case and part of a logical-but-wrong town conclusion/readdoubt, instead of it being a cover for a potential scum Kgray saving the double voter for a day.

Overall a lot of posts and statements that clearly appear to be town flailing around, which in my experience would require a real good effort of scum to fabricate and make appear as plausible. She did find herself on the wrong side of things quite a few times, which could be both convenient for scum, but which town do all the time as well.

Even though everyone in the god QT is probably sighing collectively if theyre following now, this is not as easy a choice as it appears to be.

[BunnyGo]

So, just reread all of Kgray's iso. Wouldve been a real stellar performance from either scum or town minus some obvious mishaps.

If town, she pretty much solved the game from page17 onwards with a bit of a weaker read on chaqa but strong scumreads on both N/B slot and damo. If she's scum that ofcourse changes to a null/scumread on her teammates, which is probably the default.

Loads of reasons that I townread her over initially for mindmeld -could- have both come from town & scum (such as heckling tom (and chaqa, but less?) over the initial attack on damo for finding weak reasons to vote Xorxes.

Also hopped on my strong townread of damo for quite some time, to state that damo played the exact same way as town. After initial scumreading the slot, in the mid-game wagon on Damo she was advocating against it (which was the day before the vote doubler was activated). I should probably double-check that game she claimed damo was playing the exact same as town to make sure this was indeed the case and part of a logical-but-wrong town conclusion/readdoubt, instead of it being a cover for a potential scum Kgray saving the double voter for a day.

Overall a lot of posts and statements that clearly appear to be town flailing around, which in my experience would require a real good effort of scum to fabricate and make appear as plausible. She did find herself on the wrong side of things quite a few times, which could be both convenient for scum, but which town do all the time as well.

Even though everyone in the god QT is probably sighing collectively if theyre following now, this is not as easy a choice as it appears to be.

I appreciate the effort you’re putting in. I look forward to more.

[Vecna]

appreciate it all you want, im still probably gonna murder you

[Vecna]

bunny's iso had a lot more death tunneling on Kgray than I remembered.

So either of them as town wouldve had pretty ok reads. Bunny was a bit odd in the whole thing with chaqa and the back and forths.

His tone reminds me quite a bit more of his towngame than last game, and/but there is no mechanical wall to hide behind here with fancyfull claims. So a bit hard to predict for me how a scum bunny would sound in this scenario. Besides, he'd probably pocket me quite well as scum, but he seems a bit less intent on that here.

[Vecna]

Anyways, as can be expected, the scum put up their busses moderately well, regardless of which of you two it is. I feel like in a vacuum and with more careful consideration as im trying to do now, I could probably townread either of you, and defend a choice for either.

The fact both of you also seem to be leaning more towards thinking im the town amongst the other two is actually pretty weird. Id hoped at least you wouldve come out guns blazing against me bunny, because I wouldve seen that as a reason to townread you here.

too late now though

[Vecna]

are you aware you couldve just no-killed bunny to play the final game of chicken with us today and maybe get a draw?

[Vecna]

seems tom actually didnt really have a strong opinion between bunny and Kgray. His latest posts even called out that he felt bunny was more questionable than gray

[Vecna]

bozo also had a strong vocal opinion on bunny being the last.

Xorxes was very vocal about Kgray being obvtown

im gonna look quite the fool if I end up voting Kgray and being wrong

[Vecna]

foodcoats went for bunny/chaqa/damo

Rdrivera hard townread Kgray

Only worcej had an opinion that deviated. but he thought both bunny and Kgray were scum

[Vecna]

Why on earth would you not kill Kgray bunny?

[Vecna]

And I bet nobody will be surprised if I report on summit's opinion.

[BunnyGo]

are you aware you couldve just no-killed bunny to play the final game of chicken with us today and maybe get a draw?

Are you seriously asking if *I* understand mechanics? Yes. I understand mechanics. Had scum no killed again, I’d have different thoughts.

[BunnyGo]

Why on earth would you not kill Kgray bunny?

I’m Town. And scum is setting me up as the obv mislynch. They’ve been doing it since I joined. And quite frankly with Nephs crap game there wasn’t much to do. So I tried hard to help town realize I was. I didn’t try and fight. I didn’t try and overwhelm the conversation. I said my thoughts and left them (mostly). I worked hard to focus on tone and not mechanics. I knew mechanics alone wouldn’t finish the game for town. Especially as there was nothing mechanical for me to do.

[BunnyGo]

Why on earth would you not kill Kgray bunny?

I’m Town. And scum is setting me up as the obv mislynch. They’ve been doing it since I joined. And quite frankly with Nephs crap game there wasn’t much to do. So I tried hard to help town realize I was. I didn’t try and fight. I didn’t try and overwhelm the conversation. I said my thoughts and left them (mostly). I worked hard to focus on tone and not mechanics. I knew mechanics alone wouldn’t finish the game for town. Especially as there was nothing mechanical for me to do.

If you are Town!vecna, you should be asking why scum!kgray left you alive when you’d done nothing but vote me the last three days.

[BunnyGo]

And I bet nobody will be surprised if I report on summit's opinion.

What?

[BunnyGo]

I think the biggest mechanical tell her is kgrays delay between voting nolynch and voting end.

[BunnyGo]

Now. My next question: is scum!vecna trying to sway me to defend myself and vote kgray and make sure Town!kgray and I can’t get together?

Tone and town trust matter more than mechanics here. Read for that.