M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

kgray is not playing like herself.

Can you elaborate on this please?

Defensive. Asserting without a connection. It could just be you’ve grown in your play since we’ve last played together. But it’s different. When I was scum, you were so sure about your reads. Now you seem to be spreading indifference and confusion. Instead of asking for help finding clarity.

[Vecna]

Anyways, this is a pretty shitty gamestate for town.

People are scumreading Damo. If theyre right and im wrong, we mislynch me tomorrow because I hard defended scum and town still lose. If im right and youre wrong, we lose today.

People should make up their mind whether they want to trust in my read and remove Damo of the menu. Town damo is probably the most early mislynched player on the website, while as scum he usually goes under the radar and people are just ok with his play.

[bozotheclown]

scum team predictions:

bozo: damo, Chaqa, Tom
damo: bozo, Chaqa, BunnyGo
foodcoats: damo, BunnyGo, Chaqa
Vecna: Chaqa, Tom, BunnyGo
kgray: damo, BunnyGo, Tom
Tom: damo, Chaqa, (Vecna or kgray)

[Vecna]

anyways, ill be back tomorrow. still too hungover, so ill probably do the required catchup then to see if I can refine my reads a bit better

[BunnyGo]

I'm not sure if you're really confused about this... But just in case: There were two people who were told they were a vig. One had no bullet and their target wouldn't die. I believe the consensus (and my personal belief) is that food was the real vig who was commuted by summit, so his shot was roll blocked, and worcej was the "fake" vig.

emc was replaced for not voting D1.

That’s quite convoluted. I’m sure you can see how someone wouldn’t follow that consensus knowledge.

It's not convoluted at all. There has been plenty of discussion on this. Worcej claimed vig who shot emc N1, and food claimed vig who shot summit N1. Neither kill happened. Summit flipped commuter and said on his deathbed that he commuted food N1. Those are all facts, and I'm sure everyone would agree with that. Since there has not been a 3rd vig claim, food and worcej are essentially clear and there is no reason to think they're lying about their roll or their targets.

The only question is if food was the real vig whose shot failed because of the commute or if he was the fake vig and the commute was a coincidence. In this latter case, worcej is the real vig and his shot failed because he was roll blocked or emc/vecna is the mafia tough guy.

Nooooo. Not at all convoluted when trying to catch up and see what’s going on. These mechanics are obvious. How could they have gone any other way?!

And for our communication clarity, the above was all ironic.

[BunnyGo]

@bozo I think my best guess for the scumteam is: damo, NephyGo, and Tom

But I don't feel very strongly about any of those except for ##vote Bunny

Do you think Tom and I set up that slip theatre? This is lazy incorrect and knowing it kgray. She’s pushing an agenda instead of hunting. The town!kgray when I was scum was confused when she couldn’t make sense of the game. This is scum!kgray.

My vote on vecna was because I couldn’t understand where vecna was or why EMC survived. I still don’t see vecna.

I still think Damo needs clearing somehow. If he’s town, we’re screwed. So lynch him and hope he’d scum.

My next reads are Tom and Bozo are Town.

Kgray is scum.

Nobody had answered my question why they scum read chaqa despite everyone but kgray listing him.

[Chaqa]

scum team predictions:

bozo: damo, Chaqa, Tom
damo: bozo, Chaqa, BunnyGo
foodcoats: damo, BunnyGo, Chaqa
Vecna: Chaqa, Tom, BunnyGo
kgray: damo, BunnyGo, Tom
Tom: damo, Chaqa, (Vecna or kgray)

I need to re-read damo specifically. I think he's the key to this, since my original scumteam guess was damo-xorx-worcej and later damo-xorx-summit...

[kgray]

That’s quite convoluted. I’m sure you can see how someone wouldn’t follow that consensus knowledge.

It's not convoluted at all. There has been plenty of discussion on this. Worcej claimed vig who shot emc N1, and food claimed vig who shot summit N1. Neither kill happened. Summit flipped commuter and said on his deathbed that he commuted food N1. Those are all facts, and I'm sure everyone would agree with that. Since there has not been a 3rd vig claim, food and worcej are essentially clear and there is no reason to think they're lying about their roll or their targets.

The only question is if food was the real vig whose shot failed because of the commute or if he was the fake vig and the commute was a coincidence. In this latter case, worcej is the real vig and his shot failed because he was roll blocked or emc/vecna is the mafia tough guy.

Nooooo. Not at all convoluted when trying to catch up and see what’s going on. These mechanics are obvious. How could they have gone any other way?!

And for our communication clarity, the above was all ironic.

I meant it's not convoluted in the sense that I'm not making a crazy, outrageous guess as to what happened, not that you should have immediately understood what's going on

[kgray]

kgray is not playing like herself.

Can you elaborate on this please?

Defensive. Asserting without a connection. It could just be you’ve grown in your play since we’ve last played together. But it’s different. When I was scum, you were so sure about your reads. Now you seem to be spreading indifference and confusion. Instead of asking for help finding clarity.

That was my first game and I assumed "I don't understand/agree with this person" = "this person is scum." Obviously that's not a great way to scumhunt and look where it got me that game. I'm trying to get better.

I'm not intending to spread confusion, but I AM confused. I'm definitely not indifferent. Just read the game dude.

[kgray]

@bozo I think my best guess for the scumteam is: damo, NephyGo, and Tom

But I don't feel very strongly about any of those except for ##vote Bunny

Do you think Tom and I set up that slip theatre? This is lazy incorrect and knowing it kgray. She’s pushing an agenda instead of hunting. The town!kgray when I was scum was confused when she couldn’t make sense of the game. This is scum!kgray.

My vote on vecna was because I couldn’t understand where vecna was or why EMC survived. I still don’t see vecna.

I still think Damo needs clearing somehow. If he’s town, we’re screwed. So lynch him and hope he’d scum.

My next reads are Tom and Bozo are Town.

Kgray is scum.

Nobody had answered my question why they scum read chaqa despite everyone but kgray listing him.

I don't know if Tom realized you were joking, and I don't see that as some "theater" that you'd need to set up together regardless. But I am not convinced that Tom is scum and I literally said that in that post. I AM confused, I am hunting, and this is reminding me a whole lot of M54 when you twisted half of what I said and ignored the rest.

[BunnyGo]

@bozo I think my best guess for the scumteam is: damo, NephyGo, and Tom

But I don't feel very strongly about any of those except for ##vote Bunny

Do you think Tom and I set up that slip theatre? This is lazy incorrect and knowing it kgray. She’s pushing an agenda instead of hunting. The town!kgray when I was scum was confused when she couldn’t make sense of the game. This is scum!kgray.

My vote on vecna was because I couldn’t understand where vecna was or why EMC survived. I still don’t see vecna.

I still think Damo needs clearing somehow. If he’s town, we’re screwed. So lynch him and hope he’d scum.

My next reads are Tom and Bozo are Town.

Kgray is scum.

Nobody had answered my question why they scum read chaqa despite everyone but kgray listing him.

I don't know if Tom realized you were joking, and I don't see that as some "theater" that you'd need to set up together regardless. But I am not convinced that Tom is scum and I literally said that in that post. I AM confused, I am hunting, and this is reminding me a whole lot of M54 when you twisted half of what I said and ignored the rest.

The whole problem is you make those assertions the key part of your posts.

[damo666]

If I am lynched today town will lose. Vecna has pointed this out , Tom has and bunny has. Of these Tom is voting for me so I have to assume he is scum.

##vote Tom

@food and @worcej I understand your reasons for voting for me but what you are doing is going to mean the demise of town. Pleae think again.

@Chaqa I assume you are scum with Tom but in the off chance you're not have a rethink.

Thanks.

[BunnyGo]

If I am lynched today town will lose. Vecna has pointed this out , Tom has and bunny has. Of these Tom is voting for me so I have to assume he is scum.

##vote Tom

@food and @worcej I understand your reasons for voting for me but what you are doing is going to mean the demise of town. Pleae think again.

@Chaqa I assume you are scum with Tom but in the off chance you're not have a rethink.

Thanks.

Wow.

We were scum together last game is this is about how hard you tries when you thought you were done. ##Vote Damo.

[damo666]

If I am lynched today town will lose. Vecna has pointed this out , Tom has and bunny has. Of these Tom is voting for me so I have to assume he is scum.

##vote Tom

@food and @worcej I understand your reasons for voting for me but what you are doing is going to mean the demise of town. Pleae think again.

@Chaqa I assume you are scum with Tom but in the off chance you're not have a rethink.

Thanks.

Wow.

We were scum together last game is this is about how hard you tries when you thought you were done. ##Vote Damo.

Last game I was scum and doomed. This game I'm town and doomed. Can't win can I?

[damo666]

Oh. Just realised!

You've subbed in as scum again haven't you Bunny? Rofl.

##vote Bunny

[BunnyGo]

If I am lynched today town will lose. Vecna has pointed this out , Tom has and bunny has. Of these Tom is voting for me so I have to assume he is scum.

##vote Tom

@food and @worcej I understand your reasons for voting for me but what you are doing is going to mean the demise of town. Pleae think again.

@Chaqa I assume you are scum with Tom but in the off chance you're not have a rethink.

Thanks.

Wow.

We were scum together last game is this is about how hard you tries when you thought you were done. ##Vote Damo.

Last game I was scum and doomed. This game I'm town and doomed. Can't win can I?

I guess. But doomed town Damo fought to the end the other game I was scum with xorxes.

[BunnyGo]

Oh. Just realised!

You've subbed in as scum again haven't you Bunny? Rofl.

##vote Bunny

You’re not helping your case...you should be able to see the difference if you looked.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.4

damo666(4) - worcej, Chaqa, Tom Bombadil, foodcoats, BunnyGo
BunnyGo(2) - Kgray, Damo666
Chaqa(1) - Vecna
Tom Bombadil(1) - bozotheclown

Currently DAMO is set for lynch.

Chaqa still needs to meet the posting requirement.

22 hours and 40 minutes remain in Day Three.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.4 - corrected

damo666(5) - worcej, Chaqa, Tom Bombadil, foodcoats, BunnyGo
BunnyGo(2) - Kgray, Damo666
Chaqa(1) - Vecna
Tom Bombadil(1) - bozotheclown

Currently DAMO is set for lynch.

Chaqa still needs to meet the posting requirement.

22 hours and 38 minutes remain in Day Three.

[foodcoats]

When Bunny subbed into scum last time he was confused and jocular, here he is very smarmy and doesn't mind being a coot and pursuing unpopular opinions like kgray is scum. Bunny is either Lord of Grime and Murk or should be considered town temporarily.