M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

If one of Xorxes or Damo was scum, why would neph not want to actually participate to influence his teammate not getting killed off?

So as to not be the deciding vote saving a scum teammate.

[summit_fever]

Vecna:

Eddited out the enormous wall to keep this readable. Huh. Foodcoats sure is a LOT more active that he usually is. A wise person also told me yesterday that people that are using a lot of fancy newly made up words are 90% to be scum. He caught me using fancy words and I was scum. Anyways, put away the suspicions vecna.

I thought this as well based on my experience with foodcoats in M55. But having looked back on some of foodcoats play in M55 day 2 involved some good activity with a similar style to the current game (the effort to start a chaqa wagon). A forceful imploration to scan sarah in M55 as sarah wasn't going to be solved without a scan reminds me of foodcoats not wanting to participate in xorxes' vig survey.

I do see a difference in M55 foodcoats in that he seemed to be more willing to stay out of the tunnel. For example: foodcoats unvoted chaqa pretty quickly. In this game it seemed like xorxes was goal #1 and then I was going to be the second target. Perhaps this could be due to the much simpler game. I think foodcoats is town, and have no reason to disbelieve his claim. From foodcoats' perspective, shooting at me makes a lot of sense.

I am not the strongman so if foodcoats had the real shot I was protected. If foodcoats had the blank then emc/vec was protected or is the strongman.

I think xorxes has had a much better day 2 and is putting in effort to solve the game. I believe Xorxes is town.

[bozotheclown]

If one of Xorxes or Damo was scum, why would neph not want to actually participate to influence his teammate not getting killed off?

So both are scum? Neph/xorx/Damo?

Seems pretty tinfoil to me.

It does not have to be both xorxes and damo. Nephthys would not want to be the deciding vote to save his teammate any more than he would want to lynch his teammate.

[Chaqa]

Vecna:

Eddited out the enormous wall to keep this readable. Huh. Foodcoats sure is a LOT more active that he usually is. A wise person also told me yesterday that people that are using a lot of fancy newly made up words are 90% to be scum. He caught me using fancy words and I was scum. Anyways, put away the suspicions vecna.

I thought this as well based on my experience with foodcoats in M55. But having looked back on some of foodcoats play in M55 day 2 involved some good activity with a similar style to the current game (the effort to start a chaqa wagon). A forceful imploration to scan sarah in M55 as sarah wasn't going to be solved without a scan reminds me of foodcoats not wanting to participate in xorxes' vig survey.

I do see a difference in M55 foodcoats in that he seemed to be more willing to stay out of the tunnel. For example: foodcoats unvoted chaqa pretty quickly. In this game it seemed like xorxes was goal #1 and then I was going to be the second target. Perhaps this could be due to the much simpler game. I think foodcoats is town, and have no reason to disbelieve his claim. From foodcoats' perspective, shooting at me makes a lot of sense.

I am not the strongman so if foodcoats had the real shot I was protected. If foodcoats had the blank then emc/vec was protected or is the strongman.

I think xorxes has had a much better day 2 and is putting in effort to solve the game. I believe Xorxes is town.

Well, to make sure this analysis is complete, a mitigating factor in food dropping his case/vote on me in that game was that I added him to the Neighborhood (specifically to get him off my back).

[xorxes]

If one of Xorxes or Damo was scum, why would neph not want to actually participate to influence his teammate not getting killed off?

So both are scum? Neph/xorx/Damo?

Seems pretty tinfoil to me.

It does not have to be both xorxes and damo. Nephthys would not want to be the deciding vote to save his teammate any more than he would want to lynch his teammate.

If he is scum who was lurking, and was not planning to do anything with his vote, why show up at all though? I think his explanation for what happened at EOD is at least believable:

I woke up at 8:45, wondered why I knew I needed to do something, realised this was a thing and I also had class at 9, posted and then got up for class, checked back when I started to catch up

[bozotheclown]

Oh snap

Guess who forgot about this game

I’ll catch up in a few hours

I think this effort to look like he had not read D1 yet was to cover for his not voting for one of the wagons at EOD. If Nephthys is scum, I think this indicates at least one of xorxes and damo is also scum.

##VOTE Nephthys

When he posted 10 min before EOD wagons were 4-2-2 with me leading at 4 and damo and worcej at 2. it looked like I would be the lynch. If he really had to leave at that point, he could not have predicted rivera and summit would move to damo. So I don't think we can conclude any special connection with damo.

Also, if he was scum with me he would have either bussed me if he thought my lynch was inevitable, or voted for one of the competing wagons if he thought it would help to save me, so I don't think you can make much of a connection with me either.

I don't really want to defend him too hard, but it may be true he was not here for EOD. I don't know why he would not vote for me if he was scum.

Maybe Nephthys was waiting to see if he should bus you or try to save you, then thought damo was going to get lynched without his involvement after you voted for damo. Maybe you were discussing it in mafia chat. Maybe damo was there with you and you all decided to have him tie the vote in the last minute.

[bozotheclown]

So both are scum? Neph/xorx/Damo?

Seems pretty tinfoil to me.

It does not have to be both xorxes and damo. Nephthys would not want to be the deciding vote to save his teammate any more than he would want to lynch his teammate.

If he is scum who was lurking, and was not planning to do anything with his vote, why show up at all though? I think his explanation for what happened at EOD is at least believable:

I woke up at 8:45, wondered why I knew I needed to do something, realised this was a thing and I also had class at 9, posted and then got up for class, checked back when I started to catch up

Believable, but a convenient explanation for remembering a game he forgot about 10 minutes before EOD.

[worcej]

Can someone explain why we are not solving the issue of Vecna and Summit possibly being scum based on the vig information?

[Nephthys]

It's funny cause last game bozo was certain me misremembering was scum indicative and now me forgetting this game is scum indicative

[Nephthys]

Can someone explain why we are not solving the issue of Vecna and Summit possibly being scum based on the vig information?

We can solve it by killing summit

##vote summit

[xorxes]

One of the scum is immune - you could have hit scum...

Fine. I aimed at EMC's corpse, whoever inherits that spot, because I wanted a lower post count but not a huge lurker.

You immediately vote me. You had 7 minutes to get your shot in on me. I'm sorry, I forgot that I'm a huge lurker.

@summit, what did you mean by this? What 7 minutes were you talking about?

[summit_fever]

Can someone explain why we are not solving the issue of Vecna and Summit possibly being scum based on the vig information?

We can solve it by killing summit

##vote summit

more asbestos! more asbestos!

[summit_fever]

Fine. I aimed at EMC's corpse, whoever inherits that spot, because I wanted a lower post count but not a huge lurker.

You immediately vote me. You had 7 minutes to get your shot in on me. I'm sorry, I forgot that I'm a huge lurker.

@summit, what did you mean by this? What 7 minutes were you talking about?

Why vote me immediately at the beginning of day 2 when he could have taken the shot at the end of day 1? I left plenty of time for worcej to put the orders in. Worcej's logic was that he wanted to go after a low poster but not one the huge lurkers. Sure, emc had over double the posts I had, but there wasn't much there in EMC's iso showing actual attempt to figure out the game.

[summit_fever]

You immediately vote me. You had 7 minutes to get your shot in on me. I'm sorry, I forgot that I'm a huge lurker.

@summit, what did you mean by this? What 7 minutes were you talking about?

Why vote me immediately at the beginning of day 2 when he could have taken the shot at the end of day 1? I left plenty of time for worcej to put the orders in. Worcej's logic was that he wanted to go after a low poster but not one the huge lurkers. Sure, emc had over double the posts I had, but there wasn't much there in EMC's iso showing actual attempt to figure out the game.

Anyways this was before foodcoats claimed vig unless there is a third claim I believe worcej's claim is real.

[worcej]

You immediately vote me. You had 7 minutes to get your shot in on me. I'm sorry, I forgot that I'm a huge lurker.

@summit, what did you mean by this? What 7 minutes were you talking about?

Why vote me immediately at the beginning of day 2 when he could have taken the shot at the end of day 1? I left plenty of time for worcej to put the orders in. Worcej's logic was that he wanted to go after a low poster but not one the huge lurkers. Sure, emc had over double the posts I had, but there wasn't much there in EMC's iso showing actual attempt to figure out the game.

I will repeat this: the order needed to be in before EOD due to INSTANT NIGHT PHASE.

[summit_fever]

@summit, what did you mean by this? What 7 minutes were you talking about?

Why vote me immediately at the beginning of day 2 when he could have taken the shot at the end of day 1? I left plenty of time for worcej to put the orders in. Worcej's logic was that he wanted to go after a low poster but not one the huge lurkers. Sure, emc had over double the posts I had, but there wasn't much there in EMC's iso showing actual attempt to figure out the game.

I will repeat this: the order needed to be in before EOD due to INSTANT NIGHT PHASE.

I may have missed the fact that you weren't around for end of day 1? You posted quickly at the start of day 2 so I assumed you were.

[bozotheclown]

It's funny cause last game bozo was certain me misremembering was scum indicative and now me forgetting this game is scum indicative

You still have not explained your 2 posts in the middle of D1.

[xorxes]

You immediately vote me. You had 7 minutes to get your shot in on me. I'm sorry, I forgot that I'm a huge lurker.

@summit, what did you mean by this? What 7 minutes were you talking about?

Why vote me immediately at the beginning of day 2 when he could have taken the shot at the end of day 1? I left plenty of time for worcej to put the orders in. Worcej's logic was that he wanted to go after a low poster but not one the huge lurkers. Sure, emc had over double the posts I had, but there wasn't much there in EMC's iso showing actual attempt to figure out the game.

OK, I see what you meant.

[Nephthys]

It's funny cause last game bozo was certain me misremembering was scum indicative and now me forgetting this game is scum indicative

You still have not explained your 2 posts in the middle of D1.

The one at Chaqa needs to explanation

As for xorx, there were cases, I agreed with them.
Damo, the intro looked a lil weird and I didn't like it

[Vecna]

If one of Xorxes or Damo was scum, why would neph not want to actually participate to influence his teammate not getting killed off?

So both are scum? Neph/xorx/Damo?

Seems pretty tinfoil to me.

Thats not what I was implying at all.