M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[damo666]

Obviously I vote to save myself. Worcej's comment is laughable.

Xorxes's vote on me is NAI just as mine on him is.

I slightly disagree with Xorxes' analysis that if we are both town scum could easily have untied it to get a kill, despite the fact there was very limited time any scum switching late would look very dodgy following a townflip so I think if we are both town the scum team has wider possibilities than Xorxes thinks.

If Xorxes is scum I am pretty sure summit must be his teammate.

Neph not moving his vote is very odd. It only makes sense if it were SvS and I can assure that was not the case.

It's late for me here in UK so will do some more thinking of possible scumteams that fit yesterday's vote but basically it must be Xorxes, summit and Tom or kgray OR
1 or 2 from food/bozo/worcej/chaqa with 2 or 1 from kgray/tom/summit
OR 1 + 1 + Neph with the latter trying some sort of 'can't be scum otherwise I'd have voted kind' of thing

Gun to head my current guess would be bozo, worcej and summit

I omitted emc/Vecna by accident due to non vote.

[summit_fever]

In other sad news

I was playing a mafia-like game with my friends the other day, nailed a slip and they all got annoyed that Itried to push it hard.

That person ended up winning the game for scum.

Painful

You found a slip in this game?

[Nephthys]

In other sad news

I was playing a mafia-like game with my friends the other day, nailed a slip and they all got annoyed that Itried to push it hard.

That person ended up winning the game for scum.

Painful

You found a slip in this game?

Na, the other game

They declared me town when there was no way they could know that.

[summit_fever]

In other sad news

I was playing a mafia-like game with my friends the other day, nailed a slip and they all got annoyed that Itried to push it hard.

That person ended up winning the game for scum.

Painful

You found a slip in this game?

Na, the other game

They declared me town when there was no way they could know that.

Man I feel like I started playing when everybody else is sick of each other. Think there is a good group here but people have to remember it's just a game or it'll all fall apart.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote damo

[foodcoats]

"piggy-backing of other peoples pushes"

Like this read is so fake. I voted for damo and summit and literally started both wagons. And defended xorxes. Where did I piggy back off anything?

I agree with this self assessment.

Neph, what do you think of Chaqa's suggestion we resolve yesterday's wagons? You have indicated you think xorxes is scum.

[Nephthys]

"piggy-backing of other peoples pushes"

Like this read is so fake. I voted for damo and summit and literally started both wagons. And defended xorxes. Where did I piggy back off anything?

I agree with this self assessment.

Neph, what do you think of Chaqa's suggestion we resolve yesterday's wagons? You have indicated you think xorxes is scum.

I'm not against it.

However I think we have a better chance with tom/summit

[kgray]

its a bit odd that worcej just jumped the shark on the assumptions he made after claiming he tried to shoot me, no?

Theres 3 other things that couldve happened yet he instantly assumes he's shooting blanks.

Would be a bit odd to jump into that pool as mafia now, but it might be the correct play.

That would be an interesting scum play, to fake claim before the town Vigs are revealed.

Interesting, yes, but not unreasonable since we know there are two of them. If worcej is lying, neither of the real vigs would have a reason to counterclaim. Until one flips or claims, then the other wouldn't have any reason to suspect worcej is lying, and we might all just treat him as semi-clear in the meantime. Could also be why worcej is so adamant that the other vig NOT claim.

[kgray]

its a bit odd that worcej just jumped the shark on the assumptions he made after claiming he tried to shoot me, no?

Theres 3 other things that couldve happened yet he instantly assumes he's shooting blanks.

Would be a bit odd to jump into that pool as mafia now, but it might be the correct play.

Or it is better to let the other Vig know their shot is real? I don't care what anyone else thinks about it - that other person should now know they have a loaded gun.

This doesn't make sense to me. Both vigs should assume they have a loaded gun, so why would you think you needed to let the "real" vig know they're legit?

[kgray]

So then do you think we need to lynch Vecna now? Or would it be better to wait for the other Vig to attempt a shot and claim?

No, I don't think emc was/is the Tough Guy, I was townreading him. But you wanted to kill him, so it's weird that you are not even considering that as a possibility.

I am not saying it's impossible, it's just rather low odds. We can figure this out quickly at any point if the other Vig actually attempts a shot and if they fail or not.

If you tried to shoot emc, then you must have thought he was scum, no? So then it'd be a 1/3 chance that he's the tough guy. And you said yourself that there was very little chance that either you or emc were commuted, or that you were roleblocked. So I really don't see why you think the odds of emc being tough guy are so low.

[kgray]

Just to remind you, I enjoyed keeping you in the last mini game until the end because you are not as good at this game as you think you are. You always scum me and doubt me. Have you not forgotten how obvious my town game is?

Your town game has never been obvious to me, I don't think.

And yes, it is always possible that scum are being tricky, I said that at the start of this analysis. But if everything is as it seems, that's my most likely team at the moment.

I don't really care about the fact you scum me incorrectly, it's more that you're going to perpetually doubt anything I do and assume the scum-side when you give free passes to others and proceed to town them.

Who do you think xorxes is giving free passes to?

[kgray]

I think for sake of knowledge we have a imperative to resolve one of the Day 1 wagons in one way or another.

Although I scumread both D1 wagons (to very different extents, granted), I really strongly disagree with this. We should always lynch who we think is scum. If D2 is still between damo and xorxes because they're the scummiest, fine. If it's new people on the chopping block, then that just gives us new info that we can then use to go back and look at D1 with.

[summit_fever]

Neph how do you think it benefits scum to night kill rivera?

[kgray]

Obviously I vote to save myself. Worcej's comment is laughable.

Xorxes's vote on me is NAI just as mine on him is.

I agree, but it's consistent with town!worcej's weird aversion to self-preservation.

Neph not moving his vote is very odd. It only makes sense if it were SvS and I can assure that was not the case.

Or it was TvT, and he didn't think you'd be back in time to tie it and didn't want to be the deciding vote on lynching town.

[summit_fever]

Obviously I vote to save myself. Worcej's comment is laughable.

Xorxes's vote on me is NAI just as mine on him is.

I agree, but it's consistent with town!worcej's weird aversion to self-preservation.

Neph not moving his vote is very odd. It only makes sense if it were SvS and I can assure that was not the case.

Or it was TvT, and he didn't think you'd be back in time to tie it and didn't want to be the deciding vote on lynching town.

Hmm...

[summit_fever]

Obviously I vote to save myself. Worcej's comment is laughable.

Xorxes's vote on me is NAI just as mine on him is.

I agree, but it's consistent with town!worcej's weird aversion to self-preservation.

Neph not moving his vote is very odd. It only makes sense if it were SvS and I can assure that was not the case.

Or it was TvT, and he didn't think you'd be back in time to tie it and didn't want to be the deciding vote on lynching town.

Hmm...

I was very surprised to see Neph's anger. Brainbomb's I thought was legit. This I'm not so sure.

[kgray]

Your Kgray read is really funny.

This

Look in the mirror

Summit what does this mean?

[summit_fever]

This

Look in the mirror

Summit what does this mean?

Neph was trolly as fuck in the previous game. Xorxes was trolling at this point.

[kgray]

Look in the mirror

Summit what does this mean?

Neph was trolly as fuck in the previous game. Xorxes was trolling at this point.

Yeah but I think Neph was agreeing with rdr that xorxes was being funny, so Neph was in on the trolling.

[kgray]

I agree, but it's consistent with town!worcej's weird aversion to self-preservation.



Or it was TvT, and he didn't think you'd be back in time to tie it and didn't want to be the deciding vote on lynching town.

Hmm...

I was very surprised to see Neph's anger. Brainbomb's I thought was legit. This I'm not so sure.

You think Neph seems angry?