M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[e.m.c^42]

Odds I can get Chaqa to mute me on day 1?

Try posting the entirety of the script for Bee Movie.

Unpleasant joke phase. Scum.

In case it's not clear for people who did not play that game bozo quoted from, and did not check his quotes, all of this is obviously shitposting from worcej as he himself previously pasted the bee movie copypasta.

[e.m.c^42]

I think that the argument that one of the damo voters may be scum is interesting. But I'm going to ##vote Neph because that was Chaqa's first vote, and Chaqa's first vote last game proved to be accurate. Also because of the end vote, and because there's not much more to go on at this point.

xorxes, if Nephthys were to be lynched and flip scum, what do you believe that would tell us about Chaqa's alignment?

If Neph flips town, what will that mean about Chaqa?

What do you take it to mean that Chaqa's vote on dargorygel in M55 stayed there for more than 24 hours, whereas here Chaqa has already voted twice more?

Imma quote Tom here and say, I'm not sure what to make of this.

[Tom Bombadil]

emc - what do you make of xorx misremembering facts of previous games?

[e.m.c^42]

It seems to be in that fun zone of possibly a joke but at the same time, not really. Either genuine reasons presented insincerely or the opposite, and I'm not sure which one above was.

[kgray]

I think xorxes may be scum here. foodcoats has some good points and xorxes not bothering to get the facts correct about kgray's past games is somewhat suspicious.

##VOTE xorxes

Why is that suspicious? What scum motivation would xorxes have to get those facts wrong? I'd argue that scum would be more careful to be correct to avoid nonsensical heat like this

Well xorxes used a nonexistant game where I was scum to inform his read of me:

She seems to be in her town range. I think she was scum only once and if I remember correctly she would avoid having an opinion on things.

So he's basing a read off of something that never happened instead of what's happening in this game now. It's definitely a little suspicious.

[e.m.c^42]

emc - what do you make of xorx misremembering facts of previous games?

I think it's NAI. Again, Chaq's infectious, my man.

Now see, if it was bozo that misremembered facts of a previous game it would be a completely different thing. But for xorx it's in the normal range of things.

[e.m.c^42]

If anything, I'd put infinitesimally tiny town points for it, but that would be foolish lol

[rdrivera2005]

I think xorxes may be scum here. foodcoats has some good points and xorxes not bothering to get the facts correct about kgray's past games is somewhat suspicious.

##VOTE xorxes

And I think Bozo is scum. Not only this vote on Xorxes that to me look more like to be seem as "town who doesn't fear to push Xorxes" but also the quotes and the overall behavior.

##vote Bozo

[rdrivera2005]

I am policy voting the lowest poster until everyone has fulfilled their quota and will use reverse alphabetical to break ties

##vote Xorxes

I guess I will have to start posting then, don't want mighty Damo voting on me.

Lil' bit surprised rivera did not wait for another xorxes post to jump in for his first post haha, but since xorxes was mentioned in the post I guess it passes

Xorxes wasn't posting at all. Since you are around, when you intend to vote?

[rdrivera2005]

Kind of sad Tombomb came in with the crew and killed off the fun, thought he was playing along with the dargo mention but sadly it petered out lol

I've changed in my time away emc. All the silly short stories and fun has been replaced by a more mature man.

You could even say I've evolved into ThomasBombadil

Not sure if I like this Thomas guy. And not sure he is town.

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 1.5

damo666(2) - worcej, Kgray
xorxes(2) - foodcoats, Bozotheclown
bozotheclown(2) - damo666, Rdrivera2005
worcej(1) - Nephthys*
e.m.c^42(1) - Chaqa
foodcoats(1) - xorxes
Summit_fever(1) - Tom Bombadil

Just under 22 hours remain in Day One

No-one is scheduled to be lynched.

Two players have yet to vote. Summit_fever has yet to meet the posting requirement.

[worcej]

Hi Everybody!

Good town vibes off of kgray, chaqa and rdr.

Xorxes buddying Chaqa seems possible. Also may have tried buddying me.

Would like to see Bozo post some of his own thoughts.

Damo I just...I can see why you get scumread every game.

Noise to sound like summit is paying attention. Scum

[worcej]

Worce has been shitposty till now so I guess we shall see, although I believe he does it a little bit more as scum from the last game he was in

I always shitpost.

If you haven't noticed - I posted my read of a person based on their first post in the game. I stole the idea from Squigs.

[worcej]

I think xorxes may be scum here. foodcoats has some good points and xorxes not bothering to get the facts correct about kgray's past games is somewhat suspicious.

##VOTE xorxes

Finally he posted his own words. I feel the xorxes read is kinda forced though... Scum

[foodcoats]

I'm not inventing anything here. The below is your train of reasoning for voting Nephthys.

1. Chaqa's first vote last game was for dargorygel.
2. Last game, Chaqa was town, and dargorygel was scum.
3. This game, Chaqa's first vote was for Nephthys.
4. ?
5. Therefore, I, xorxes, will vote for Nephthys.

(4) is a question mark because you never expressly stated your leap in logic, but leap you did. It was precisely my point that you must presume Chaqa is town, or your original vote did not make sense for the reasons you gave, except for Neph's END vote being scummy.

You progressively elaborated on this idea by calling Chaqa a "litmus test," but what could that mean, in the context of sheeping Chaqa onto Neph, except that you believe Chaqa is town and has good scumdar? The only other explanation I have for the below is that you were justifying sheeping Chaqa. Are you saying that your proposal is we lynch Neph to evaluate the quality of Chaqa's scumdar?

You're way overanalyzing this. I voted for Neph because it felt good to do so with what I had so far at the time, and Chaqa having voted for him was an incentive because I did the same last game and it turned out to be a good hunch. You making such a huge deal of such triviality makes me confortable with my current vote.

That's not what a litmus test is, or at leats that's a very specialized meaning. It's a test for acidity or alkalinity using litmus. You are the litmus paper and I'm using you to test the scummicity or townicity of (in this case) Neph.

It seems to me that the below must be a contradiction. Interestingly, you have not claimed that your initial vote was a joke. Instead, you are insisting that your vote was motivated by other factors, and I am misunderstanding you. But which factors? If you do not think Chaqa is town, and further you do not think Chaqa has good scumdar, why did you sheep him onto Nephthys?

You seem to think that I have a strong conviction that Neph is scum based on a strong conviction that Chaqa is town and a strong conviction that Chaqa has good reads when he is town. None of those things are even remotely close to the truth though.

My initial vote was not a complete joke, and Neph may very well be scum. I don't believe you're misunderstanding anything, I believe you understand perfectly well the extent of my seriousness and that you are just fabricating a lot of smoke.

I am sorry xorxes, but this explanation still does not make sense.

You are now claiming you seriously voted Neph for reasons you have nowhere explained.

This was your vote:

I think that the argument that one of the damo voters may be scum is interesting. But I'm going to ##vote Neph because that was Chaqa's first vote, and Chaqa's first vote last game proved to be accurate. Also because of the end vote, and because there's not much more to go on at this point.

Do you understand why I am confused? You specifically ignored something you said was an interesting argument, because you were so interested in Chaqa's scumdar capabilities. But now you are claiming your vote was based on other reasons, which are nowhere described in your iso thus far - other than the end vote, which was presented as secondary to your belief in Chaqa.

Now you also are saying Neph may "very well" be scum. That sounds like hedging, when you also claim you were so confident before re:Neph for reasons other than Chaqa-scumdar, which you say now was only gravy.

So, xorxes, maybe I missed it. Why do you think Nephthys is scum?

[Tom Bombadil]

"when you also claim you were so confident before re:Neph for reasons other than Chaqa-scumdar, which you say now was only gravy."

What picture are you trying to paint here food?

What about the post below lead you to believe xorxes was so confident in his vote? Because to me the statement that there is not much more to go on directly implies that he is not all that confident...

"I think that the argument that one of the damo voters may be scum is interesting. But I'm going to @@vote Neph because that was Chaqa's first vote, and Chaqa's first vote last game proved to be accurate. Also because of the end vote, and because there's not much more to go on at this point. "

[bozotheclown]

Hi Everybody!

Good town vibes off of kgray, chaqa and rdr.

Xorxes buddying Chaqa seems possible. Also may have tried buddying me.

Would like to see Bozo post some of his own thoughts.

Damo I just...I can see why you get scumread every game.

What makes you say that about rdrivera?

Just an overall vibe. His post regarding your posts resonated with me as well.

You agree with Kgray ?

I do think kgray and Chaqa are more likely to be town than rdrivera.

[bozotheclown]

I think xorxes may be scum here. foodcoats has some good points and xorxes not bothering to get the facts correct about kgray's past games is somewhat suspicious.

##VOTE xorxes

Why is that suspicious? What scum motivation would xorxes have to get those facts wrong? I'd argue that scum would be more careful to be correct to avoid nonsensical heat like this

xorxes says he puts more effort in as town.

[bozotheclown]

I also dislike Bozo posting quotes without comments. I understand he probably want to make clear the old game references but without comment it just look like filler.
Start a pool of you need to post something and don't know what, Bozo.

I think xorxes may be scum here. foodcoats has some good points and xorxes not bothering to get the facts correct about kgray's past games is somewhat suspicious.

##VOTE xorxes

And I think Bozo is scum. Not only this vote on Xorxes that to me look more like to be seem as "town who doesn't fear to push Xorxes" but also the quotes and the overall behavior.

##vote Bozo

In the first post, rdrivera implies he thinks I am scum posting "filler", but did not vote for me. In the second post he find another reason to scum read me and is willing to vote for me, after I already had a vote. I think there is a good chance rdrivera is scum.

[xorxes]

My initial vote was not a complete joke, and Neph may very well be scum. I don't believe you're misunderstanding anything, I believe you understand perfectly well the extent of my seriousness and that you are just fabricating a lot of smoke.

I am sorry xorxes, but this explanation still does not make sense.

You are now claiming you seriously voted Neph for reasons you have nowhere explained.

This was your vote:

I think that the argument that one of the damo voters may be scum is interesting. But I'm going to ##vote Neph because that was Chaqa's first vote, and Chaqa's first vote last game proved to be accurate. Also because of the end vote, and because there's not much more to go on at this point.

Do you understand why I am confused? You specifically ignored something you said was an interesting argument, because you were so interested in Chaqa's scumdar capabilities. But now you are claiming your vote was based on other reasons, which are nowhere described in your iso thus far - other than the end vote, which was presented as secondary to your belief in Chaqa.

Now you also are saying Neph may "very well" be scum. That sounds like hedging, when you also claim you were so confident before re:Neph for reasons other than Chaqa-scumdar, which you say now was only gravy.

So, xorxes, maybe I missed it. Why do you think Nephthys is scum?

I voted for Neph after he had posted twice, I think. And yes, the fact that Chaqa voted for him and I remembered last game when I had a similar reaction to a vote by Chaqa on dargo and we happened to be right made me comment on that fact and gave me a bit of confidence that we might be right again. And no, I don't think any of that is in any way a strong argument to think someone is scum, but it's a perfectly normal reason for a first D1 vote. And I have no idea if Neph is scum or not, he may very well be. And the fact that you don't seem to understand any of that after so many explanations makes me think you are trying very hard to not understand.