M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8581 Post by Vecna » Wed May 13, 2020 3:15 pm

foodcoats wrote:
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@Nephthys: I think you MUST jail BunnyGo tonight as it gives us the best chance of jailing the scum lawyer/JOAT with lawyering abilities. This gives town the best possible chance to get a good scan, as we need to jail the lawyer for summit's scan to be viable.
If you trust the QT to be town, this is not a very good suggestion. Damo is just as likely to be the lawyer (more imo, but thats up for debate) - and we can still get useful information from Bunny if he actually IS town here. We also have other ways to verify at least bunnies role, and id like to see what he digs up here.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8582 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 13, 2020 3:23 pm

Vecna wrote:
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@Nephthys: I think you MUST jail BunnyGo tonight as it gives us the best chance of jailing the scum lawyer/JOAT with lawyering abilities. This gives town the best possible chance to get a good scan, as we need to jail the lawyer for summit's scan to be viable.
If you trust the QT to be town, this is not a very good suggestion. Damo is just as likely to be the lawyer (more imo, but thats up for debate) - and we can still get useful information from Bunny if he actually IS town here. We also have other ways to verify at least bunnies role, and id like to see what he digs up here.
I think the way the redirect was used, when we did not yet know with certainty that there is a lawyer, makes it very, very likely that Bunny is the lawyer. It prevented Bunny from being roleblocked.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8583 Post by Vecna » Wed May 13, 2020 3:26 pm

Well, guess you better start hunting in your QT now then, because Bunny seems pretty confident he can produce Xorxes' role on the spot

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8584 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 13, 2020 3:31 pm

Bunny is probably mafia JOAT who had a 1x Role Cop/Thief ability.

Damo is probably mafia Lawyer

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8585 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 13, 2020 3:33 pm

Damo was probably Lawyering himself all game until he was scanned and then lawyer Squigs to protect against potential scans.

Bunny was redirected from so mafia could figure out just WTF xorxes' role is and if they are safe from it.

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#8586 Post by Vecna » Wed May 13, 2020 3:34 pm

Thats a possibility I guess.

I still think the jailkeeper is also a great fit on the scum team with what we know now, but a JOAT with different roles to figure out the setup makes sense as well.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8587 Post by BunnyGo » Wed May 13, 2020 3:35 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:26 pm
Well, guess you better start hunting in your QT now then, because Bunny seems pretty confident he can produce Xorxes' role on the spot
I’ve already used enough coded language that xorxes and foodc (and Chaq if he bothered to read) could see I know it. There’s a reason xorxes didn’t want it revealed. I’m willing and able, but would like to do it after a mass claim has been decided or not. But I can do as close to EON as I can. That’s 5 PM here and kids demand dinner and attention so no promises. If you don’t mind it an hour ahead of EON, I can do that. If we want to hammer night and have me be the last hammer, I can do that.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8588 Post by Vecna » Wed May 13, 2020 3:35 pm

Regardless, the outcome for night actions should be the same.

Neph should jail Damo and someone should wifom some action on Damo to confirm that actually happened.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8589 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 13, 2020 3:51 pm

Bunny 100% knows what xorx role is/how it works, FWIW.

I just happen to think it's because he's a scum role cop or something.

There's other possibilities like scumJoat!Food, as I said, but I'm not going to make wild theories before seeing what happens tonight.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8590 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 13, 2020 3:56 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:26 pm
Well, guess you better start hunting in your QT now then, because Bunny seems pretty confident he can produce Xorxes' role on the spot
As Chaqa has pointed out, there is no good reason to assume that Bunny knowing xorxes' role implicates the QT or clears Bunny. It is much simpler to assume there is a Mafia Role Cop or Power Thief.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8591 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:56 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:26 pm
Well, guess you better start hunting in your QT now then, because Bunny seems pretty confident he can produce Xorxes' role on the spot
As Chaqa has pointed out, there is no good reason to assume that Bunny knowing xorxes' role implicates the QT or clears Bunny. It is much simpler to assume there is a Mafia Role Cop or Power Thief.
Furthermore, Vecna, why would you think there is scum in the QT when you believe Neph and damo are the two remaining scum?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8592 Post by BunnyGo » Wed May 13, 2020 4:07 pm

Since all agree I’ve demonstrated sufficient knowledge of xorxes role. I’ll not post it before EON.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8593 Post by Vecna » Wed May 13, 2020 4:13 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:56 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:26 pm
Well, guess you better start hunting in your QT now then, because Bunny seems pretty confident he can produce Xorxes' role on the spot
As Chaqa has pointed out, there is no good reason to assume that Bunny knowing xorxes' role implicates the QT or clears Bunny. It is much simpler to assume there is a Mafia Role Cop or Power Thief.
Furthermore, Vecna, why would you think there is scum in the QT when you believe Neph and damo are the two remaining scum?
I was talking from your pov, but a simple rolecop/rolethief on scum is indeed a fine explanation as well.

Anyways, we'll see what happens. Whether neph is scum or town he's not going to listen to my suggestions regardless so we'll just sort through the outcome.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8594 Post by Vecna » Wed May 13, 2020 4:20 pm

Nice job on the fakeclaim at any rate if you are scum bunny, it probably wouldve worked on me

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8595 Post by BunnyGo » Wed May 13, 2020 4:22 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:20 pm
Nice job on the fakeclaim at any rate if you are scum bunny, it probably wouldve worked on me
It’s not fake. And I don’t know why you’re letting Chaq manipulate you.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8596 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 13, 2020 4:27 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:57 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:56 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 3:26 pm
Well, guess you better start hunting in your QT now then, because Bunny seems pretty confident he can produce Xorxes' role on the spot
As Chaqa has pointed out, there is no good reason to assume that Bunny knowing xorxes' role implicates the QT or clears Bunny. It is much simpler to assume there is a Mafia Role Cop or Power Thief.
Furthermore, Vecna, why would you think there is scum in the QT when you believe Neph and damo are the two remaining scum?
This is an interesting catch, but may just be in-line with his tunneling tinfoil all game.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8597 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 13, 2020 4:37 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:07 pm
Since all agree I’ve demonstrated sufficient knowledge of xorxes role. I’ll not post it before EON.
Make sure you post it AT EoN, not AFTER EON.

If you do not post anything at EoN, I will be suspicious.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8598 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 13, 2020 4:37 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:22 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:20 pm
Nice job on the fakeclaim at any rate if you are scum bunny, it probably wouldve worked on me
It’s not fake. And I don’t know why you’re letting Chaq manipulate you.
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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8599 Post by BunnyGo » Wed May 13, 2020 4:41 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:37 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:07 pm
Since all agree I’ve demonstrated sufficient knowledge of xorxes role. I’ll not post it before EON.
Make sure you post it AT EoN, not AFTER EON.

If you do not post anything at EoN, I will be suspicious.
Why post it? You know I know. Posting only diminishes my scan and xorxes scan. I think you’re just making sh*t up now that doesn’t make sense.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8600 Post by foodcoats » Wed May 13, 2020 4:46 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:41 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:37 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 4:07 pm
Since all agree I’ve demonstrated sufficient knowledge of xorxes role. I’ll not post it before EON.
Make sure you post it AT EoN, not AFTER EON.

If you do not post anything at EoN, I will be suspicious.
Why post it? You know I know. Posting only diminishes my scan and xorxes scan. I think you’re just making sh*t up now that doesn’t make sense.
Bunny, you HAVE to post it because it proves your claim. I am still willing to be persuaded you are not scum, but if you do not post it, you are obvscum.

Chaqa spoke too broadly. You have actually not specified certain elements that are key to proving you actually took xorxes' action. You need to do that. xorxes is basically guaranteed to die tonight - scum still have lawyering, presumably, so they will kill xorxes before summit. So there's no fear of outing him.

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