M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8361 Post by BunnyGo » Tue May 12, 2020 3:05 am

I still think scum!chaqa makes the most sense both in tone of posts, logic of votes, and the fact that neighborizing scum is clever.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8362 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 12, 2020 6:29 am

Confirmed:
BismarckAlive: Town JOAT (Protective 2x, Killing, Investigative 2x, Roleblock)
kgray: Town Motion Detector (Investigative)
TheMarche: Town Bus Driver (Protective)
Donny Dude: Town Tracker (Investigative)
emc: Third Party Universal Backup -> Town Tracker (Investigative)
flash: Town Watcher (Investigative)
DemonRHK: Mafia Street Doctor (Protective)
rdrivera: Third Party Lead Inquisitor (Killing?)
brainbomb: Town Doctor (Protective)
Sarah/Temasek: Town Lie Detector (Investigative)
Jamie: Town Babysitter (Protective)
F​oxcastle/Squigs: Mafia Redirector (Roleblock)

Claims:
foodcoats: Lightning Rod (Roleblock)
Chaqa: Neighborizer (N/A)
Vecna: Paranoid Gun Owner (Killing)
summit_feve​r: Alignment Cop (Investigative)
Nephthys: Jailer (Roleblock)
dargorygel/BunnyGo: Student (Investigative?)

Others:
bozo
damo
xorxes

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8363 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 12, 2020 6:42 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:40 am
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:36 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:32 am


Correct. Couldn’t study LR because he was jailed.

Can only study on odd nights.
Its still unclear to me when studying does
Can copy ability on even nights.
Is your role considered investigative? If you visit someone who has used up their power, like Vecna or foodcoats, would you still be able to copy their power? Are you allowed to copy someone's power more than once? If you had visited the Third Party Lead Inquisitor, do you know if you would have been able to start your own 3P faction? If we had no-lynched D1, and you had visited emc N1, could you have copied his power and switch to town?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8364 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 12, 2020 7:16 am

If the mafia had a jailer and a redirector, it would cause a significant conflict if they had the same target, like they would have N1, so I do not think there is much of a chance Nephthys is mafia.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8365 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 12, 2020 7:22 am

I do not think summit is a fake cop, so I believe it comes down to BunnyGo, damo, and Vecna. Probably BunnyGo and damo if there are 2 scum left. My guess is damo is the lawyer who was targeting himself each night until he was scanned N4.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8366 Post by Nephthys » Tue May 12, 2020 7:28 am

@bozo sneaky of you to leave yourself off...

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8367 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 12, 2020 7:45 am

Nephthys wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 7:28 am
@bozo sneaky of you to leave yourself off...
Off what?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8368 Post by Nephthys » Tue May 12, 2020 8:14 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 7:45 am
Nephthys wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 7:28 am
@bozo sneaky of you to leave yourself off...
Off what?
The POE

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8369 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 12, 2020 8:16 am

Nephthys wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 8:14 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 7:45 am
Nephthys wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 7:28 am
@bozo sneaky of you to leave yourself off...
Off what?
The POE
I know I am town, though.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8370 Post by Vecna » Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 am

Xorxes also towncleared him?

so he's only scum if xorxes is.

Regardless, in the small offchance that bunny is town here and he is not jailed tonight he can confirm whatever ability xorxes is claiming (just in case xorxes mysteriously does not die) and confirm both town!xorx and town!bozo

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8371 Post by Vecna » Tue May 12, 2020 9:27 am

Anyways, bunnies role also could be a scum role

it would make the scum faction seriously underpowered if thats the case and damo just does that modifying stuff, but maybe its time to just occams razor this shit

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8372 Post by damo666 » Tue May 12, 2020 10:59 am

Vecna wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:35 am
xorxes wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:29 am
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:14 am


I do worry because ill be left behind to solve and win this game, and I dont want you to put up a convincing post urging people to lynch me. Itll already be hard enough considering nearly every dead town left the game with a scumread on me.
Nobody ever listens to dead townies, you know that.
In most situations that is very true. But id like to be able to win a 1v1 against neph or food if it ever comes down to that and one of the obvies doesnt flip scum. And I have this feeling its going to be a nailbiter
This is contradictory. You are basically saying the obvious are not obvious. Obviously you are oblivious to the obvious.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8373 Post by damo666 » Tue May 12, 2020 11:03 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 6:29 am
Confirmed:
BismarckAlive: Town JOAT (Protective 2x, Killing, Investigative 2x, Roleblock)
kgray: Town Motion Detector (Investigative)
TheMarche: Town Bus Driver (Protective)
Donny Dude: Town Tracker (Investigative)
emc: Third Party Universal Backup -> Town Tracker (Investigative)
flash: Town Watcher (Investigative)
DemonRHK: Mafia Street Doctor (Protective)
rdrivera: Third Party Lead Inquisitor (Killing?)
brainbomb: Town Doctor (Protective)
Sarah/Temasek: Town Lie Detector (Investigative)
Jamie: Town Babysitter (Protective)
F​oxcastle/Squigs: Mafia Redirector (Roleblock)

Claims:
foodcoats: Lightning Rod (Roleblock)
Chaqa: Neighborizer (N/A)
Vecna: Paranoid Gun Owner (Killing)
summit_feve​r: Alignment Cop (Investigative)
Nephthys: Jailer (Roleblock)
dargorygel/BunnyGo: Student (Investigative?)

Others:
bozo
damo
xorxes
The Others make a good team

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8374 Post by damo666 » Tue May 12, 2020 11:04 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 6:42 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:40 am
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:36 am


Its still unclear to me when studying does
Can copy ability on even nights.
Is your role considered investigative? If you visit someone who has used up their power, like Vecna or foodcoats, would you still be able to copy their power? Are you allowed to copy someone's power more than once? If you had visited the Third Party Lead Inquisitor, do you know if you would have been able to start your own 3P faction? If we had no-lynched D1, and you had visited emc N1, could you have copied his power and switch to town?
Are you suggesting he made it up?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8375 Post by damo666 » Tue May 12, 2020 11:09 am

Looks like Bunny and Chaqa to me.

N6 They kill Xorxes
D7 lynch Bunny
N7 NK bozo
D8 mislynch me
N8 NK Summit
D9 lynch Chaqa

You got no chance scumboys, may as well concede as food suggests (for the wrong scumteam but whatever).

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8376 Post by foodcoats » Tue May 12, 2020 11:21 am

damo666 wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 11:09 am
Looks like Bunny and Chaqa to me.

N6 They kill Xorxes
D7 lynch Bunny
N7 NK bozo
D8 mislynch me
N8 NK Summit
D9 lynch Chaqa

You got no chance scumboys, may as well concede as food suggests (for the wrong scumteam but whatever).
Why would Chaqa lynch Chaqa?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8377 Post by damo666 » Tue May 12, 2020 11:23 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 11:21 am
damo666 wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 11:09 am
Looks like Bunny and Chaqa to me.

N6 They kill Xorxes
D7 lynch Bunny
N7 NK bozo
D8 mislynch me
N8 NK Summit
D9 lynch Chaqa

You got no chance scumboys, may as well concede as food suggests (for the wrong scumteam but whatever).
Why would Chaqa lynch Chaqa?
You Neph and Vecna do that

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8378 Post by xorxes » Tue May 12, 2020 11:35 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 2:57 am

By the way, do we really think there's an entire character who has the unique purpose of countering summit (and me if I study with summit)? That's soooo underpowered (especially compared to all he OP characters we've seen). Much more likely they have a JOAT and they wanted to make sure they got a use of their lawyer power.
Either a Lawyer ability that is part of a JOAT, or summit is scum and there's no Lawyer. But both the rules and Mafia's role PM strongly suggest a Lawyer or Lawyer ability, so I think either summit has to be town or the rules were purposefully made to confuse us.

I have to say you are making this "Student" role sound credible, so well done if it's all made up.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8379 Post by BunnyGo » Tue May 12, 2020 11:41 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 6:42 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:40 am
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 1:36 am


Its still unclear to me when studying does
Can copy ability on even nights.
Is your role considered investigative? If you visit someone who has used up their power, like Vecna or foodcoats, would you still be able to copy their power? Are you allowed to copy someone's power more than once? If you had visited the Third Party Lead Inquisitor, do you know if you would have been able to start your own 3P faction? If we had no-lynched D1, and you had visited emc N1, could you have copied his power and switch to town?
It actually changes. I am investigative on odd nights, and my other action on even.

I don’t steal alignment, and I don’t steal items, I learn skills. I’ll ask GM about what he intended for rdr, but I’m guessing it’d be kill/start a QT ability. But I dont know why you think it would start a new 3P. I could study with chaqa and start my own QT that way.

I assume that since EMC would not have done an action for me to study, I wouldn’t copy him. I’ll ask worcej, but I doubt he considered that interaction.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8380 Post by BunnyGo » Tue May 12, 2020 11:42 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 7:16 am
If the mafia had a jailer and a redirector, it would cause a significant conflict if they had the same target, like they would have N1, so I do not think there is much of a chance Nephthys is mafia.
How is that? If all the game analysis we’ve done, that one doesn’t immediately jump out at me.

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