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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8041 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 pm

shit. did this just clear the entire QT?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8042 Post by Squigs44 » Mon May 11, 2020 9:30 pm

So let's revisit Nephs jails:
N1 - claims he targeted foodcoats but with LR no way to verify this so N/A
N2 - claims he targeted Xorx trying to protect him. While this is more towny than scummy, its also possible scum just thought Xorxes was a good PR (which it appears he was)
N3 - claims to have jailed Bunny with little reasoning, throwing out that he thought he would catch a NK from scum Bunny. This is kinda a weird target, not super scummy but the way he explained it was super super awkward.
N4 - claims to have jailed himself. As town i guess it self preserves but as scum it is a convenient way of not allowing town investigatives of scanning you. Both alignments possible, but scum has more upside here i think.
N5 - claims to have jailed Vecna because he thought Vecna was scum and would flex his ego by making the NK. As town this is just bad play. As scum, I'm not sure the exact reasoning here. If Vecna were scum, he could be covering up a potential scan on Vecna. If Vecna is town, then this is a way of wasting a jail, kinda like the Bunny jail.

Conclusion: It is possible to view Neph as either a suboptimal town jailor or an outside the box scum jailor. Needs more looking at, but I think I'm comfortable keeping my vote here for now

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8043 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:32 pm

ok, any town person should actually be having the same thought as me here

What did we just learn?

What options does this give us?

These night actions are very telling, and there are some very different interesting ways to interpret all of this.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8044 Post by Chaqa » Mon May 11, 2020 9:33 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 pm
shit. did this just clear the entire QT?
Unless Neph is scummy which I’m really doubting

Bunny/Squigs/Vecna?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8045 Post by xorxes » Mon May 11, 2020 9:33 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:28 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:25 pm
##Vote Bozo until he claims

I’m 100% in massclaim mode. I’m taking a shower quick after work, brb
Calm down. We´re not lynching bozo today.
No, but he’s claiming.

Relay result?
I have something. Let me think a bit whether I should say it here or in code.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8046 Post by Chaqa » Mon May 11, 2020 9:34 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:30 pm
So let's revisit Nephs jails:
N1 - claims he targeted foodcoats but with LR no way to verify this so N/A
N2 - claims he targeted Xorx trying to protect him. While this is more towny than scummy, its also possible scum just thought Xorxes was a good PR (which it appears he was)
N3 - claims to have jailed Bunny with little reasoning, throwing out that he thought he would catch a NK from scum Bunny. This is kinda a weird target, not super scummy but the way he explained it was super super awkward.
N4 - claims to have jailed himself. As town i guess it self preserves but as scum it is a convenient way of not allowing town investigatives of scanning you. Both alignments possible, but scum has more upside here i think.
N5 - claims to have jailed Vecna because he thought Vecna was scum and would flex his ego by making the NK. As town this is just bad play. As scum, I'm not sure the exact reasoning here. If Vecna were scum, he could be covering up a potential scan on Vecna. If Vecna is town, then this is a way of wasting a jail, kinda like the Bunny jail.

Conclusion: It is possible to view Neph as either a suboptimal town jailor or an outside the box scum jailor. Needs more looking at, but I think I'm comfortable keeping my vote here for now
Food confirmed the N1 jail and its consistent with the results brain, Jamie had as well as what EMC and flash saw with xorxes N2.

Neph is 100% jailed. Alignment TBD.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8047 Post by Squigs44 » Mon May 11, 2020 9:34 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:24 pm
If mafia has a lawyer and a redirect the tinfoil is they did this to make us think Squigs is clear.

I’ll wait on info from Bozo, xorx, and Bunny.

@Neph: you jailed Vecna?
The only way I'm scum is if mafia have a lawyer and a redirector (or I'm godfather or some variation of this)

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8048 Post by Chaqa » Mon May 11, 2020 9:34 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:33 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:28 pm


Calm down. We´re not lynching bozo today.
No, but he’s claiming.

Relay result?
I have something. Let me think a bit whether I should say it here or in code.
One then the other?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8049 Post by Chaqa » Mon May 11, 2020 9:35 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:34 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:24 pm
If mafia has a lawyer and a redirect the tinfoil is they did this to make us think Squigs is clear.

I’ll wait on info from Bozo, xorx, and Bunny.

@Neph: you jailed Vecna?
The only way I'm scum is if mafia have a lawyer and a redirector (or I'm godfather or some variation of this)
That’s what I just said?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8050 Post by xorxes » Mon May 11, 2020 9:35 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 pm
shit. did this just clear the entire QT?
Explain. That would be awesome if true.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8051 Post by damo666 » Mon May 11, 2020 9:36 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:14 pm
jamiets role actually makes quite a lot of sense in the mechanical puzzle and the number of protectives.

Shame jamiet didnt leave behind a legacy to tell us what was discussed in the QT in regards to his ability usage.

BUT

this does mean that scum were intending to endgame us yesterday with a squigs lynch maybe? followed by a kill on jamiet and his protective target?

Before I go off again on how this incriminates the QT, lets hear it.

spill them beans
How would scum know Jamie's protectee would die with Jamie? Unless he revealed that in Chaqa's QT. But then Vecna, you are not in that. Did the mole tell you in mafchat?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8052 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:38 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:35 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 pm
shit. did this just clear the entire QT?
Explain. That would be awesome if true.
Well, either it clears the QT or the scum leader did a really smart plan and hoped that someone would think of this interaction.

Itd be a pretty good wifom plan. Which I think you and chaqa -might- be capable of. Hmmm

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8053 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:39 pm

You guys did confirm you were aware of Jamiet's role right?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8054 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:39 pm

yeah, given that chaqa just stated he knew he was targeting town and scum reads confirms they knew.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8055 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:40 pm

Scum have a redirector. Theyre using it on Summit.

If scum knew Jamiets role, they couldve just redirected jamiet to summit and killed both

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8056 Post by Nephthys » Mon May 11, 2020 9:41 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:40 pm
Scum have a redirector. Theyre using it on Summit.

If scum knew Jamiets role, they couldve just redirected jamiet to summit and killed both
Thinking here.

Scum have a redirector. They can make summit go to anyone. Why Squigs? Why not damo (who has already been scanned) seems like scum wanted the inno scan on squigs.

Therefore squigs is more likely scum

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8057 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:42 pm

they couldve killed anyone they wanted alongside with jamiet.

In fact, they shouldve kept him alive here if they knew jamiet's role.

Unless the redirector is at serious risk of dying, and they just wanna wifom....but

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8058 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:42 pm

Nephthys wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:41 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:40 pm
Scum have a redirector. Theyre using it on Summit.

If scum knew Jamiets role, they couldve just redirected jamiet to summit and killed both
Thinking here.

Scum have a redirector. They can make summit go to anyone. Why Squigs? Why not damo (who has already been scanned) seems like scum wanted the inno scan on squigs.

Therefore squigs is more likely scum
Your conclusion might be correct, but the thought process is too simple

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8059 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:45 pm

ofcourse if they had redirected jamiet to summit and killed both, it wouldve started a witch hunt in the QT

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#8060 Post by Vecna » Mon May 11, 2020 9:46 pm

I probably shouldve kept this conclusion quiet for a while to see if Chaqa/xorxes/foodcoats wouldve ever come out with it.

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