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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7701 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 10, 2020 7:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:06 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:48 pm
Vecna wrote:
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And what about Temasek?
Vengeful shot.
That doesn't make sense, Bunny. If Squigs is Mafia Vengeful, why would he shoot the person Town wants him to shoot?
Oh...if he's scum!vengeful? Yet another miscommunique on my part. If he's scum vengeful, we lose someone valuable.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7702 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun May 10, 2020 7:10 pm

Chaqa, you didn't originally want to lynch Squigs.

Move your vote to Temasek and see what happens, huh?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7703 Post by xorxes » Sun May 10, 2020 7:10 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm

Squigs is the perfect candidate to leave alive until lylo. He ever gets there, he is the autolynch. Then if were wrong and he flips town, it gives us a magical second shot at hitting scum, meaning any lylo situation with 1 scum remaining is a near GUARANTEED town win.
How will we know when we're at lylo?

How do we know we're not at lylo right now, unlikely as it is?

When there's 5 left, how will we know if it's 4-1 or 3-2?
When there's 7 left, how will we know if it's 5-2 or 4-3?
When there's 9 left, how will we know if it's 7-2, 6-3 or 5-4?

Not to mention that there may be Inquisitors to deal with. Leaving Squigs, who is very likely scum, until a lylo that we don't even know when will it be is a bad idea.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7704 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun May 10, 2020 7:11 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:10 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm

Squigs is the perfect candidate to leave alive until lylo. He ever gets there, he is the autolynch. Then if were wrong and he flips town, it gives us a magical second shot at hitting scum, meaning any lylo situation with 1 scum remaining is a near GUARANTEED town win.
How will we know when we're at lylo?

How do we know we're not at lylo right now, unlikely as it is?

When there's 5 left, how will we know if it's 4-1 or 3-2?
When there's 7 left, how will we know if it's 5-2 or 4-3?
When there's 9 left, how will we know if it's 7-2, 6-3 or 5-4?

Not to mention that there may be Inquisitors to deal with. Leaving Squigs, who is very likely scum, until a lylo that we don't even know when will it be is a bad idea.
If you are convinced Squigs is scum, you can use your special ability on him tonight, can't you?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7705 Post by xorxes » Sun May 10, 2020 7:13 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:29 pm
Everyone claiming that lynching town here to kill scum, while we can just lynch the scum, is either scum or playing this really poorly.
I'm not claiming that. I'm claiming I want to lynch scum!Squigs, but with the backup assurance that if I'm wrong, we still get scum!Tem.

There is of course no certainty about either of them, but this gives us the best chance that we get scum today.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7706 Post by Chaqa » Sun May 10, 2020 7:21 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:10 pm
Chaqa, you didn't originally want to lynch Squigs.

Move your vote to Temasek and see what happens, huh?
I wanted to no-lynch. I really was town reading Sarah and could see her not utilizing her role correctly, but Tem seems shady. Idk

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7707 Post by Vecna » Sun May 10, 2020 7:21 pm

Unless someone can make a really convincing argument why Temasek is in fact a town lie detector, im rather certain that lynching Temasek WILL get us a confirmed scum today.

His likelyhood of being scum is so much higher than squigs.

And if squigs is town here, lynching him is A BAD IDEA.

Try to convince me that the odds of temasek flipping scum is lower than the odds of squigs flipping town, and we can talk about squigs.

im not buying that theyre both scum.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7708 Post by xorxes » Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:11 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:10 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm

Squigs is the perfect candidate to leave alive until lylo. He ever gets there, he is the autolynch. Then if were wrong and he flips town, it gives us a magical second shot at hitting scum, meaning any lylo situation with 1 scum remaining is a near GUARANTEED town win.
How will we know when we're at lylo?

How do we know we're not at lylo right now, unlikely as it is?

When there's 5 left, how will we know if it's 4-1 or 3-2?
When there's 7 left, how will we know if it's 5-2 or 4-3?
When there's 9 left, how will we know if it's 7-2, 6-3 or 5-4?

Not to mention that there may be Inquisitors to deal with. Leaving Squigs, who is very likely scum, until a lylo that we don't even know when will it be is a bad idea.
If you are convinced Squigs is scum, you can use your special ability on him tonight, can't you?
We don't really want to discuss that here and now. Squigs is a very questionable slot. His claimed power requires that we lynch him in order for it to be useful. Best time to lynch him is when we have a good target in sight.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7709 Post by Vecna » Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm

Squigs, why arent you talking

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#7710 Post by Chaqa » Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm

If we can’t all agree, maybe we should no lynch and give the investigators another night?

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#7711 Post by summit_fever » Sun May 10, 2020 7:25 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:09 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:06 pm
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Time to town it up squigs.

If you do get lynched and are town: if Temasek manoevres himself in such a way that you cannot venge him, own Xorxes
That's probably a very bad idea.

Chaqa, Jamie, do you think there's much chance xorxes is scum leading us by the nose?
It's possible, yes. Scum could have realised Rdrivera was a third party by other means than the means Xorxes claims.

Call me paranoid but I'm coming to the view that at least one person in the sex cult is scum, and it isn't me. I feel I'm being manipulated, in more ways than one.

##VOTE TEMASEK
Have you always felt manipulated? I imagine you were cautious upon first joining. Can you pinpoint when you started feeling manipulated?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7712 Post by Vecna » Sun May 10, 2020 7:25 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm
If we can’t all agree, maybe we should no lynch and give the investigators another night?
No lynch is by far the worst option of them all id say

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7713 Post by Vecna » Sun May 10, 2020 7:27 pm

Big QTs are such an anti-town mechanic lol

Any potential gain is just ruined by suspicion, potential scum knowing everything, and half of the playerlist being completely out of the loop

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7714 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 10, 2020 7:29 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm
If we can’t all agree, maybe we should no lynch and give the investigators another night?
Chaq, can you stop setting off my "Chaq is scum" alerts with literally every post? Try making a couple that don't set it off please.

My deadline has passed. ##unend. ##vote temasek.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7715 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun May 10, 2020 7:36 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm
Squigs, why arent you talking
This is worrying me.

He's showing as online, and has been for the past hour or so.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7716 Post by Squigs44 » Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm

Trying to catch up, but busy on and off with family this weekend. I'll post in probably half an hour.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7717 Post by Vecna » Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm

alright

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7718 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:41 pm
Trying to catch up, but busy on and off with family this weekend. I'll post in probably half an hour.
I asked you an important question about your ability:

Do you have to input your target whilst you are still alive? Or, do you get to order it during the Night phase after your lynch?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7719 Post by Chaqa » Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:29 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm
If we can’t all agree, maybe we should no lynch and give the investigators another night?
Chaq, can you stop setting off my "Chaq is scum" alerts with literally every post? Try making a couple that don't set it off please.

My deadline has passed. ##unend. ##vote temasek.
If they’re setting off chaqa is scum alerts then maybe you need to recalibrate what is scummy and what is not (even just for me)

I’ve always gotten scumread for having a different view of the game

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#7720 Post by BunnyGo » Sun May 10, 2020 7:44 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:42 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:29 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 7:24 pm
If we can’t all agree, maybe we should no lynch and give the investigators another night?
Chaq, can you stop setting off my "Chaq is scum" alerts with literally every post? Try making a couple that don't set it off please.

My deadline has passed. ##unend. ##vote temasek.
If they’re setting off chaqa is scum alerts then maybe you need to recalibrate what is scummy and what is not (even just for me)

I’ve always gotten scumread for having a different view of the game
Fair enough. I thought my Chaqa calibration was set better. The QT is so anti-town if it is infiltrated (by sectioning town, and by letting scum have more info than the rest of town) that it is also setting off my alerts. It's actually a very clever role (neighborizer) to make scummy.

I'm tabling this for now as we have better targets.

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