M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[xorxes]

Ok Xorxes I'll attempt to hammer Tem if you can get some other volunteers.

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We need seven votes to hammer.

And people staying off the Squigs wagon are very suspect.

Question. Can tem jump and vote end on someone else and end? What are the rules this game?

I’ll ##end. But if it gets close be ready to finish when Tem is on squigs wagon. I’m uncomfortable.

That's why everyone else needs to be on Squigs.

Two people should coordinate to vote end together when we have 5 end votes so that Tem can't end it by himself.

[Vecna]

Get people to state their alignment, check it, boom. And thats the absolute worst possible use you could come up with.

Just out of curiosity, what would be an example of a better use?

Lie detecting posts from flipped scum claiming 3 people are all town?

I mean, im just spouting out general stuff here on the fly. Scum know a lot, and you can come up with a wild number of amazing uses for a town lie detector. Theres a reason that role is generally never used.

[Vecna]

@Xorxes what do you make of Tem's claim?

3 dollar bill

This seems like some weird code?

And damo is not in the QT?

[Vecna]

Not a chance he is telling the truth, but maybe go for Vecna if you're town?

I second this

Gimme that townclear (not like itll last more than a day)

How would town!Squigs shooting you give you a townclear that lasts for a day? Or are you saying that scum!Squigs saying he will shoot you clears you in any way whatsoever? I don't understand what you meant there.

He would townclear me and then flip scum, thus invalidating his result?

[xorxes]

@Xorxes what do you make of Tem's claim?

3 dollar bill

This seems like some weird code?

And damo is not in the QT?

Yeah, damo probably knows the expression "fake as a 3 dollar bill" though.

[Vecna]

Not a chance he is telling the truth, but maybe go for Vecna if you're town?

I second this

Gimme that townclear (not like itll last more than a day)

How would town!Squigs shooting you give you a townclear that lasts for a day? Or are you saying that scum!Squigs saying he will shoot you clears you in any way whatsoever? I don't understand what you meant there.

Oh, I thought this post was adressing Tem;s ability use, not Squigs blowing up, and I thought you were telling him to lie detector me.

nm that

[xorxes]

I second this

Gimme that townclear (not like itll last more than a day)

How would town!Squigs shooting you give you a townclear that lasts for a day? Or are you saying that scum!Squigs saying he will shoot you clears you in any way whatsoever? I don't understand what you meant there.

He would townclear me and then flip scum, thus invalidating his result?

We're on different wavelengths here. How does he townclear you by agreeing to shoot you if he does not have a vengeful shot?

[Vecna]

The interesting thing is, if Tem is fakeclaiming here it sort of townclears Squigs

Not at all.

Think about it. He comes with this shitty claim because he's afraid of being blown up by squigs. No other reason to fakeclaim something that dodgy this early. Unless you know squigs be telling the truth and youre at risk of being blown up.

Or he thinks sacrificing himself for Squigs, and perhaps giving Squigs some towncred in the process, is a good idea.

But then, who gave Tem this idea? Was it already discussed earlier? Daychat still on the table?

I don't believe there's daychat, but so many people kept pushing that idea for some reason.

Except theres no way he could anticipate us all switching onto himself with this. Meaning Squigs would die, and then he would just die the next day.

What youre suggesting makes very little sense here Xorxes.

Loads of people had already posted before I even suggested lynching tem with good rationale.

And yes, if we lynch Tem here and it flips scum, it does feel strongly like people are just trying to get us to mislynch Squigs here.

So I dont know why you continue trying to push us to lynch squigs instead of Tem

[Vecna]

Ok Xorxes I'll attempt to hammer Tem if you can get some other volunteers.

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We need seven votes to hammer.

And people staying off the Squigs wagon are very suspect.

xorxes is trying really hard to shut off all discusison in switching the wagon from squigs to Tem.

Which is freaking weird, given how him especially should know that a lie detector does not fit at all here with the role he is claiming, and a cop/watcher/tracker/busdriver etc etc

[BunnyGo]

Ok Xorxes I'll attempt to hammer Tem if you can get some other volunteers.

##end

We need seven votes to hammer.

And people staying off the Squigs wagon are very suspect.

xorxes is trying really hard to shut off all discusison in switching the wagon from squigs to Tem.

Which is freaking weird, given how him especially should know that a lie detector does not fit at all here with the role he is claiming, and a cop/watcher/tracker/busdriver etc etc

Ok. I’m out on a walk with family. ##unend. Figure this out while I’m gone or I’ll help when I get back.

[Vecna]

My current guess would be:

RHK: Doctor
Vecna: JOAT
Squigs: Redirector
Tem: Lawyer

WHY WOULD TEM CLAIM NOW if he is scum with squigs.

This "he's trying to save him!" is just such incredibly fake logic. Sacrefising the lawyer on a long shot of saving whatever other role squigs could be?

You even moved the redirector off of the JOAT now to make it fit. And how would Tem know to do it now without daychat?

Like, are you scared that Tem flipping scum lie detector will out how you knew that Rdrivera was 3rd party?

Extremely fishy. Trying to endhammer the day. This is some of the most important discussions in the game.

Town Xorxes would want more people to respond to garner reactions.

[Vecna]

Ok Xorxes I'll attempt to hammer Tem if you can get some other volunteers.

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We need seven votes to hammer.

And people staying off the Squigs wagon are very suspect.

I don't understand. Why are you sacrificing a possible town Squigs when Tem is almost certain scum. I am not townreading Squigs by any stretch of the imagination but surely the optimal townplay is to lynch Tem and leave Squigs until tomorrow when we have may info from the night which makes things clearer.

And this would be exactly what Xorxes would be suggesting here if he was town really believing that Tem is likely faking it.

in his Poe there are still 2 investigatives minimum. Squigs can easily be neutralized if he is scum with a jailkeeper (assuming neph town)

[Vecna]

##end

We need seven votes to hammer.

And people staying off the Squigs wagon are very suspect.

I don't understand. Why are you sacrificing a possible town Squigs when Tem is almost certain scum. I am not townreading Squigs by any stretch of the imagination but surely the optimal townplay is to lynch Tem and leave Squigs until tomorrow when we have may info from the night which makes things clearer.

Because I don't think Squigs is town and in the unlikely case that he is we get Tem anyway.

Unless Tem votes off the wagon and then endvotes.

Im not on the wagon.

Town xorxes would be afraid of doing this plan with endvotes when all his scum suspects can manoevre themselves OFF THE WAGON.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok Xorxes I'll attempt to hammer Tem if you can get some other volunteers.

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We need seven votes to hammer.

And people staying off the Squigs wagon are very suspect.

I am confused.

You said you wanted to hammer Temasek. Now you are hammering Squigs.

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't understand what Xorxes is up to here.

[Vecna]

Tem got spooked by all the people asking squigs to explode on him.

He probably blurted out his real role here.

Xorxes knows that if he flips scum lie detector, everyone will draw the connection that scum figured out Rdrivera was 3rd party.

Heck, this is probably how it went:

Xorxes: Hey Rdrivera, I need to know your role because I think youre lying:
Rdrivera: Im BP
Temasek: Lie detector the BP statement:
Temasek in scumchat: Rdrivera is lying. We know he is not scum. Thus he must be 3rd party
Xorxes: Ok guys, Rdrivera is lying. Lynch him
Xorxes in QT: Making up some bullshit role that somehow convinced the people in there.

[Vecna]

In fact, Rdrivera probably KNEW to claim BP because he knew that the N2 kill was HIS.

Meaning he probably knew scum shot at him N2.

Xorxes and Tem are scum here.

Tem will flip Scum Lie detector.

Is my tinfoil finally correct?

[Vecna]

The way Xorxes was talking to EMC already hit some chords with me. Because the tone was so similair how he always talks to me when he's falsely scumreading me as 3rd party or scum.

[foodcoats]

Lynching Squigs based on his iso still makes sense. Squigs could be a powerful scum PR. Squigs could be a Lawyer and scum wants another night out of his ability. That's why I'm suspicious of the chaos and Squigs and damo and Tem finally playing the game instead of being bumps on logs.

[Vecna]

endvotes here are scumclaims