M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

Can you share your results so far?

Day 1: Sarah actually gets a fairly good result and manages to find out Don's tracker claim is real

Day 2/3: Power not used by Sarah.

Day 4: i went for some statement not made by rdr because I misread the role, but the result made me think rdr was town.

Day 5: not used yet, suggestions would be really appreciated.

Squigs' claim would be useful. We can decide whether to save the vengeful 1-shot for later (as per chaq's suggestion). If he's lying, we lynch him (maybe with extra precautions for suicide bomber).

He could check Squigs "I am town" statement, or yours.

[summit_fever]

I am town.

[summit_fever]

Summit, when you scan, does it specifically tell you in the result who your scan landed on? Would you know if you were redirected / driven or whatever?

Yeah. The night 1 scan I was told I was redirected to foodcoats. Other scans have listed the player and the verdict.

Serious question time. I want an answer from everyone as soon as they see this post.

Did you read the post I made about me jailing myself? I mean read it. Not just acknowledge it was my logic and move on. I mean read what I wrote and why I wrote it.

Vecna -
Chaqa -
Tem -
Squigs -
Damo -
Bunny -
Jamie -
Xorx -
Summit -
Bozo -
Food -

I've read it. Not sure what you are asking me about it though. Do I agree with the strategy? I would imagine some sort of randomisation of your role, including jailing yourself, would be optimal.

[BunnyGo]

Day 1: Sarah actually gets a fairly good result and manages to find out Don's tracker claim is real

Day 2/3: Power not used by Sarah.

Day 4: i went for some statement not made by rdr because I misread the role, but the result made me think rdr was town.

Day 5: not used yet, suggestions would be really appreciated.

Squigs' claim would be useful. We can decide whether to save the vengeful 1-shot for later (as per chaq's suggestion). If he's lying, we lynch him (maybe with extra precautions for suicide bomber).

He could check Squigs "I am town" statement, or yours.

I hadn't seen Xorxes' suggestion yet. It's a good one.

I was only thinking of existing statements, Dumb AND Drunk Bunny (TM) simultaneously.

[xorxes]

@Tem, you joined the game in the middle of N3. Why did you not use your power that night, given that Sarah had not used it yet?

[foodcoats]

I’m still not sure shooting Temasek is good until we hear his claim.

Though I’m wondering who the scum team can be if damo and Bozo are both town

The scum pool, if the information from Xorxes and Summit is credible, would be down to you, BunnyGo, Squigs, Temasek, Vecna, and possibly Foodcoats.

Three or four from that pool of Six.

I think you too, right Jamie?

The way Jamie slowly alluded to and then eventually revealed his role (in the Chipotle Chat) could only be scum if worcej provided full on fake claims I think. And as I said above based on RHK I don't think they have fake claim roles that specifically.

[foodcoats]

Just concluding that squigs, bunny and tem are scum here feels way too easy and kinda unlikely

Correct, you're leaving out Godfather damo.

[foodcoats]

If town's most powerful role fell into the hands of Sarah-Temasek it's going to be sad.

Let's be the light in each other's lives.

[foodcoats]

If town's most powerful role fell into the hands of Sarah-Temasek it's going to be sad.

I agree with you. It is really quite sad.

You are strong and beautiful.

[foodcoats]

I am town.

Everyone should make this statement, just in case he is telling the truth.

I, foodcoats, am town.

[foodcoats]

I am to the best of my knowledge not scum.

Oh shit wtf

[foodcoats]

Squigs, i appreciate the effort you're putting in now.

Who are your top 3 scum reads?

[Squigs44]

Yeah Tems claimed role is definitely OP, since (assuming Neph is town) Janitor Neph can save Tem and Jamie can use whatever protective to save Neph, making Tem unkillable for 2 or 3 more days guaranteed (especially since mafia don't seem to have a RB). Tem getting janitored im guessing doesn't stop him from using his ability in the day.

I'm currently targeting Tem

[Squigs44]

Squigs, i appreciate the effort you're putting in now.

Who are your top 3 scum reads?

Temasek, Bunny and... at this point someone that is "clear" obviously can't be, so either Vecna or damo probably. I feel like Vecnas claim and subsequent info makes him town, but we have seen that Vecna is capable of some outside the box plays so idk. The scan on damo should make him clear, but mafia likely has some way to mess with investigatives given the number of town investigatives.

[BunnyGo]

Yeah Tems claimed role is definitely OP, since (assuming Neph is town) Janitor Neph can save Tem and Jamie can use whatever protective to save Neph, making Tem unkillable for 2 or 3 more days guaranteed (especially since mafia don't seem to have a RB). Tem getting janitored im guessing doesn't stop him from using his ability in the day.

I'm currently targeting Tem

That’s a great point. If those three are all town, this game is over.

[Nephthys]

Why don't we all include our roles?

Someone that has faked a role this far is 100% scum

I am a town jailer

[Nephthys]

Also

Mass claim is happening now'

There is literally nothing more vital than Tem

Also helps us direct the squigs shot

[bozotheclown]

Also

Mass claim is happening now'

There is literally nothing more vital than Tem

Also helps us direct the squigs shot

There is no point in claiming my role, so obviously I do not have a role anyone else has claimed.

[Chaqa]

lol

I am the Town Neighborizer

[damo666]

I am going to repeat myself for the benefit of those with short attention spans.

The best plan today is for everyone to vote for Squigs, whether you believe his claim or not. Here's the logic:

If he is telling the truth:

1. We should lynch him, because his power is only activated upon his lynch, and:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, so that he can use his shot effectively.

If he is lying:

1. Then he is scum and should be lynched anyway, but:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, to insure against the possibility he is a Suicide Bomber.

If you are not voting for Squigs the only reasonable conclusion is that you want to ensure that if he is Vengeful, you are safe from his shot. That is scum-indicative thinking.

How does everyone on his wagon protect against him if he is a Suicide Bomber, can they typically only kill from their wagon? I am more concerned Squigs could be a mafia Vengeful, the Suicide Bomber idea is just speculation.

Good evening, Bozo. You're missing the point so allow me to explain it.

Suicide Bomber is a role that can blow themselves up, during the Day. In doing so they die, and also kill a target of their choice. It's usually a Mafia role and generally cannot be protected against.

Chaqa's theory was that Scum Squigs could be fake-claiming Vengeful in an attempt to make himself a large lead wagon, but with some manipulation or luck hopefully making some poor townie the second-placed wagon.

With that arrangement coming to fruition, he would in theory wait until a few minutes before EoD, and then *BOOM*, he detonates himself, also kills his Town target, and not only that, suddenly the second-placed wagon is propelled into the lead, because all the votes on the Suicide Bomber would no longer be valid due to his death. Day would end before enough people had a chance to cast a new vote, and some poor Town schmuck gets lynched too. So the death of the Suicide Bomber eliminates not just one townie, but two.

Having everyone vote for Squigs is a mitigation against that event, because there isn't a second wagon that would be put into the lead by the suicide explosion.

If Squigs is scum suicide bomber then 1 minute before EOD his teammates switch to the same townsperson and then Squigs detonated. Your system fails.