M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

I’ve explained my thoughts on it. If we aren’t no lynching I will join the all-on-Squigs wagon, but I think we’re taking an unnecessary risk when we’re so far ahead.

Interesting Vecna chooses to shade me after agreeing to vote no lynch with me

[Vecna]

you never followed up on my "being unkillable" and it mismatching with the inquisitor role pm xorxes.

You've been making some very sharp observations this game, and overall your play is pretty towny, but the followup on certain things has me wondering. As does the big mystery of the Rdrivera reveal. As was the way you were hounding EMC day2, while now you've flipped it around to me being likely scum in the way I pushed donny.

I still really cannot fathom a role that you could have that caught him and that also works together with a towncop summit and all the other investigative shit we had.

How were scum ever supposed to win this if they hadnt gotten lucky in the bus driver dying N2 with so many investigatives on town?

[xorxes]

And pulling them is why you’re in the sex cult, have xorxes do it.

That would be overstepping my position, that's the Chairman's job.

[Vecna]

I’ve explained my thoughts on it. If we aren’t no lynching I will join the all-on-Squigs wagon, but I think we’re taking an unnecessary risk when we’re so far ahead.

Interesting Vecna chooses to shade me after agreeing to vote no lynch with me

Im in the precarious position where youre the one protecting me, but I think theres a moderate risk of you putting in a great performance as scum here. I have quite a number of reasons to suspect this too.

Broken clock gotta be right at some point, eh?

[Chaqa]

I’ve explained my thoughts on it. If we aren’t no lynching I will join the all-on-Squigs wagon, but I think we’re taking an unnecessary risk when we’re so far ahead.

Interesting Vecna chooses to shade me after agreeing to vote no lynch with me

Im in the precarious position where youre the one protecting me, but I think theres a moderate risk of you putting in a great performance as scum here. I have quite a number of reasons to suspect this too.

Broken clock gotta be right at some point, eh?

Me and my friends have a saying “even a blind chud finds a squirrel”

[xorxes]

you never followed up on my "being unkillable" and it mismatching with the inquisitor role pm xorxes.

Please point me to it if I left something unanswered. I try to reply to what I think is relevant, but it may be that I missed something.

You've been making some very sharp observations this game, and overall your play is pretty towny, but the followup on certain things has me wondering. As does the big mystery of the Rdrivera reveal. As was the way you were hounding EMC day2, while now you've flipped it around to me being likely scum in the way I pushed donny.

I don't think I ever did that. I thought the way you pushed Donny was towny, because I had the same thoughts as you did about the "scumslip". What surprised me was how you changed your mind the next day and did not want to lynch emc.

I still really cannot fathom a role that you could have that caught him and that also works together with a towncop summit and all the other investigative shit we had.

How were scum ever supposed to win this if they hadnt gotten lucky in the bus driver dying N2 with so many investigatives on town?

I imagine scum must have some powerful ammunition as well. That's why your JOAT idea with many options makes a lot of sense.

[BunnyGo]

I’ve explained my thoughts on it. If we aren’t no lynching I will join the all-on-Squigs wagon, but I think we’re taking an unnecessary risk when we’re so far ahead.

Interesting Vecna chooses to shade me after agreeing to vote no lynch with me

Im in the precarious position where youre the one protecting me, but I think theres a moderate risk of you putting in a great performance as scum here. I have quite a number of reasons to suspect this too.

Broken clock gotta be right at some point, eh?

Me and my friends have a saying “even a blind chud finds a squirrel”

What is a blind chud? It sounds like a sex cult thing.

[Jamiet99uk]

you never followed up on my "being unkillable" and it mismatching with the inquisitor role pm xorxes.

You've been making some very sharp observations this game, and overall your play is pretty towny, but the followup on certain things has me wondering. As does the big mystery of the Rdrivera reveal. As was the way you were hounding EMC day2, while now you've flipped it around to me being likely scum in the way I pushed donny.

I still really cannot fathom a role that you could have that caught him and that also works together with a towncop summit and all the other investigative shit we had.

How were scum ever supposed to win this if they hadnt gotten lucky in the bus driver dying N2 with so many investigatives on town?

Vecna there have been nine deaths so far, and only one of them was Mafia. Seven were town.

You're being a little premature with the "oh this game is so townsided" complaint there, don't you think?

I can confirm that Xorxes' role is very specific and only yields useful information in certain circumstances. It is also as much an anti-3p role as an anti-Mafia role. You'll understand when you see the full details.

[foodcoats]

you never followed up on my "being unkillable" and it mismatching with the inquisitor role pm xorxes.

You've been making some very sharp observations this game, and overall your play is pretty towny, but the followup on certain things has me wondering. As does the big mystery of the Rdrivera reveal. As was the way you were hounding EMC day2, while now you've flipped it around to me being likely scum in the way I pushed donny.

I still really cannot fathom a role that you could have that caught him and that also works together with a towncop summit and all the other investigative shit we had.

How were scum ever supposed to win this if they hadnt gotten lucky in the bus driver dying N2 with so many investigatives on town?

There could very well be 4 more scum, not just 3.

[Squigs44]

So here's how this game is gonna play out

- lynch Squigs
- Tem/Vecna gets shot
- Other one gets investigated
- Mass claim
- Lynch the guilty on Tem/Vec or damo/Bunny if their claim turns out to be trash

Prosper

Another example of someone posting as if they know I'm gonna flip town, yet blindly voting me. I'm gonna compile a list of these kinds of posts cause this is almost certainly scum.

[Vecna]

[*]Every role has an action. It may be triggered or player initiated and it may or may not target/visit players.

Because also, vanilla godfathers or ninja's are not a thing. Maybe they have gf/ninja's with extra abilities tacked on top, but so far that does not seem how any roles are designed.

Id expect the scum team would need to be something like this:

doctor
Super high powered JOAT
Lawyer or strongman, maybe both? (limited shots most likely)
Jailkeeper is a great fit, independant of read on Neph
Information gathering role on town roles

But even that feels like theyd have a hard time winning this, and thats already assuming they have 5 players

[Vecna]

you never followed up on my "being unkillable" and it mismatching with the inquisitor role pm xorxes.

You've been making some very sharp observations this game, and overall your play is pretty towny, but the followup on certain things has me wondering. As does the big mystery of the Rdrivera reveal. As was the way you were hounding EMC day2, while now you've flipped it around to me being likely scum in the way I pushed donny.

I still really cannot fathom a role that you could have that caught him and that also works together with a towncop summit and all the other investigative shit we had.

How were scum ever supposed to win this if they hadnt gotten lucky in the bus driver dying N2 with so many investigatives on town?

There could very well be 4 more scum, not just 3.

im fully counting on it, hence why the no lynch idea today is not good

[Vecna]

you never followed up on my "being unkillable" and it mismatching with the inquisitor role pm xorxes.

You've been making some very sharp observations this game, and overall your play is pretty towny, but the followup on certain things has me wondering. As does the big mystery of the Rdrivera reveal. As was the way you were hounding EMC day2, while now you've flipped it around to me being likely scum in the way I pushed donny.

I still really cannot fathom a role that you could have that caught him and that also works together with a towncop summit and all the other investigative shit we had.

How were scum ever supposed to win this if they hadnt gotten lucky in the bus driver dying N2 with so many investigatives on town?

Vecna there have been nine deaths so far, and only one of them was Mafia. Seven were town.

You're being a little premature with the "oh this game is so townsided" complaint there, don't you think?

I can confirm that Xorxes' role is very specific and only yields useful information in certain circumstances. It is also as much an anti-3p role as an anti-Mafia role. You'll understand when you see the full details.

Its not a complaint Jamiet. Its an argument why it could be doubted whether both Xorxes and Summit are telling the truth

[Vecna]

I just realized Xorxes' couldve also just caught Rdrivera because the BP claim is in direct contradiction with the game rules lol

[Vecna]

although it wouldnt explain why he was trying to force a claim from him, so nm

[Squigs44]

I am going to repeat myself for the benefit of those with short attention spans.

The best plan today is for everyone to vote for Squigs, whether you believe his claim or not. Here's the logic:

If he is telling the truth:

1. We should lynch him, because his power is only activated upon his lynch, and:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, so that he can use his shot effectively.

If he is lying:

1. Then he is scum and should be lynched anyway, but:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, to insure against the possibility he is a Suicide Bomber.

If you are not voting for Squigs the only reasonable conclusion is that you want to ensure that if he is Vengeful, you are safe from his shot. That is scum-indicative thinking.

Im pretty sure that if he's scum he's not actually the role he is claiming. That feels like too low of a power level for this type of setup.

Its a pretty good fakeclaim though, because it cannot be verified unless you die regardless. Pretty good fakeclaim that is, until people start coming up with this plan.

So in other words, if I was scum, fake claiming my role only makes sense if I thought town were a bunch of idiots, or I didn't think out the implications of my claim.

[Vecna]

That reminds me, Squigs is probably a good wagon with decent scum equity regardless.

The way he went on day1 "Huh Vecna, this secretary slip you picked up on is really good" and then went on to let me be the one to push it...

[Vecna]

Refresh my memory again, was there a mechanical reason for town!bozo?

[Squigs44]

That reminds me, Squigs is probably a good wagon with decent scum equity regardless.

The way he went on day1 "Huh Vecna, this secretary slip you picked up on is really good" and then went on to let me be the one to push it...

I wasn't playing day 1...

[Squigs44]

Refresh my memory again, was there a mechanical reason for town!bozo?

Xorxes mysterious role almost certainly guarantees him town. So to us outsiders, no.