M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

I am going to repeat myself for the benefit of those with short attention spans.

The best plan today is for everyone to vote for Squigs, whether you believe his claim or not. Here's the logic:

If he is telling the truth:

1. We should lynch him, because his power is only activated upon his lynch, and:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, so that he can use his shot effectively.

If he is lying:

1. Then he is scum and should be lynched anyway, but:
2. Everyone must be on his wagon, to insure against the possibility he is a Suicide Bomber.

If you are not voting for Squigs the only reasonable conclusion is that you want to ensure that if he is Vengeful, you are safe from his shot. That is scum-indicative thinking.

[Nephthys]

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The NK is factional, so if there is a driver, the driver can also perform the NK.

I thought people could only carry out one action at night?

[Jamiet99uk]

Voting for "No Lynch" today, or advocating that there ought to be a counter-wagon is either cowardly, or scummy, or both.

[Nephthys]

There is also the thing where Squigs says he can only target Temasek if Temasek is on his wagon.

Right. So in order to hammer before Tem shows up we need to pick another target for town!Squigs. And Vecna should be voting Squigs so he is in the mix.

If Squigs is a scum Vengeful who really does have the restriction of killing someone on his wagon, we are giving him a choice of kills. I think it would be a good idea to have a second wagon on Temasek, with at least you and summit voting for Temasek.

An excellent point.

[Nephthys]

Yea na I take that back. Jamie's thoughts are the most logical.

[Nephthys]

Also tomorrow, we are massclaiming

I don't give a shit if your role "might" be useful later. It is unlikely to be stronger than what we already have.

People being hella shifty isn't helping us move forwards

[xorxes]

But as a question to you; did you read my earlier logic regarding the redirector and how it was used to redirect brainbomb to me?

Do you feel like my logic there is flawed, or are you worried that im fakeclaiming my role and I have some other killing ability of which I knew beforehand what the flavour would be?

I think I responded, although I was confusing Redirector with Deflector.

If you are town, brain could have been redirected to you so that scum could kill emc or flash without fear of them being saved, and with some hope that you would still have a charge and killed brain, and also to test if you still had it.

If you are scum, you could have redirected him to yourself so that you could kill emc or flash without fear of them being saved, plus you would be safe from a potential SK, and you could also make the above argument.

So I don't think this redirection really says much about your alignment.

[Nephthys]

Also, to further my other post I was partially curious to see who would answer immediately and who wouldn't.

I find it interesting that NO ONE has mentioned that I didn't include brain in my possible people that could get killed. (an oversight by me)

He was literally the person that did die...

At times I fell like there's no critical analysis of anything.

I would say the scumteam is massively on the backfoot.

[Nephthys]

So here's how this game is gonna play out

- lynch Squigs
- Tem/Vecna gets shot
- Other one gets investigated
- Mass claim
- Lynch the guilty on Tem/Vec or damo/Bunny if their claim turns out to be trash

Prosper

[Chaqa]

With the suicide bomber thing being a possibility, should we not make sure our secondary wagon is not "no lynch?"

##VOTE Temasek

I'll move back if everyone thinks that's best but I think having two possible wagons is a good thing... and both should be lynch targets. I do not get no lynching... and also xorxes and Summit should be on Tem not Squigs.

If there is no secondary wagon at all, then the triggering of the Suicide Bomber cannot cause the secondary wagon to be mislynched, because there isn't one.

If Squigs is telling the truth about his role, you need to be on his wagon so that you are among his vengeful shot choices.

I note that Vecna, Chaqa, and now Foodcoats are deeply afraid of being shot.

? Why would I be shot or worried about it?

[Chaqa]

Voting for "No Lynch" today, or advocating that there ought to be a counter-wagon is either cowardly, or scummy, or both.

I believe no lynch is the logical thing to do.

[Chaqa]

I guess we aren’t hammering?

[xorxes]

I guess we aren’t hammering?

If we hammer and Squigs is town for some reason, who does he kill? Bunny?

[BunnyGo]

Why shoot Vecna? Vecna may be scum. Damo is either scum or a certain PR we want dead anyway.

Isn't that what you're claiming damo? You're activated not by our powers but by our votes, so to speak?

Damo hasn’t claimed he’s useful dead...maybe you should tell us what you think he is. I have no idea.

[Jamiet99uk]

I guess we aren’t hammering?

We aren't hammering because several people, yourself included, are interfering with the proposal on which hammering was predicated.

[Jamiet99uk]

Voting for "No Lynch" today, or advocating that there ought to be a counter-wagon is either cowardly, or scummy, or both.

I believe no lynch is the logical thing to do.

Why?

[Jamiet99uk]

With the suicide bomber thing being a possibility, should we not make sure our secondary wagon is not "no lynch?"

##VOTE Temasek

I'll move back if everyone thinks that's best but I think having two possible wagons is a good thing... and both should be lynch targets. I do not get no lynching... and also xorxes and Summit should be on Tem not Squigs.

If there is no secondary wagon at all, then the triggering of the Suicide Bomber cannot cause the secondary wagon to be mislynched, because there isn't one.

If Squigs is telling the truth about his role, you need to be on his wagon so that you are among his vengeful shot choices.

I note that Vecna, Chaqa, and now Foodcoats are deeply afraid of being shot.

? Why would I be shot or worried about it?

You are making sure you can't be shot, by refusing to vote for Squigs.

Prove me wrong.

[Chaqa]

Voting for "No Lynch" today, or advocating that there ought to be a counter-wagon is either cowardly, or scummy, or both.

I believe no lynch is the logical thing to do.

Why?

I already explained the reasons a few pages aho

[Jamiet99uk]

I believe no lynch is the logical thing to do.

Why?

I already explained the reasons a few pages aho

I saw your post on page 356, that one?

What are you proposing we do with Squigs? Lynch him tomorrow?

[foodcoats]

Also tomorrow, we are massclaiming

I don't give a shit if your role "might" be useful later. It is unlikely to be stronger than what we already have.

People being hella shifty isn't helping us move forwards

should probably mass claim now tbh