Why?
Outguessing scum is pretty core to this game. Moreso when complicated mechanics are involved
#7141 Post by Nephthys » Sat May 09, 2020 11:26 am
Why?
#7142 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 11:28 am
Last night was family fun night and I am catching up. Cool yer jets.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:46 am@Neph, Foodcoats, Vecna, Temasek:
All vote Squigs please?
#7143 Post by Nephthys » Sat May 09, 2020 11:29 am
#7144 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 11:30 am
At some point though can't you make a read non mechanically? Xorx and bozo have both struck me as town based on their iso's. I'd lynch bozo with a guilty scan but I'm not surprised he's town.Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:47 amMy main concern is you could be lying and could have either:xorxes wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:45 amMost likely Squigs is not telling the truth.
If he is telling the truth, there's still a very good chance Tem is scum.
Even if they are both town, they are barely playing, so we don't lose a whole lot, and it is better to do this now than later.
But we still need to hear what Tem has to say before making a decision.
1. bussed your Inquisitor leader (seems unlikely)
2. could be the scum-version of your role
So I'm a little wary. What if you've false-cleared Bozo?
#7145 Post by Nephthys » Sat May 09, 2020 11:34 am
#7146 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 11:34 am
This seems like a really weird thing to say if you're town right now. I can't put my finger on it but this seems like fake news. This seems scummy... like trying to clear yourself through humility.Vecna wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:09 amAnyways, it might actually not be a terrible idea to blow me up with squigs ability. Ive managed to compromise my slot to such a degree I probably should not be in the endgame as ill likely lose any serious 1v1 against scum due to the high suspicions on my slot. Biggest downside is that it will cost us 2 townies now if squigs is town, but I can seriously see me losing us the game here, and im not sure any level of stellar play is going to salvage the stuff ive done this game
Also, I think its pretty obvious im not going to get NK'd here
Either that or we need to find a proper way to confirm my alignment here, but with the modified flavour on the cop scans, thats probably not happening.
#7147 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 11:35 am
Lol. Chaqa. Just... be quiet.Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:21 amIf scum knew what xorxes role was, I don't think he'd be alive. It's kinda a counterpoint to food being scum. I think the QT is probably safe.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:56 amI do not completely trust your QT, so I would not reveal my role there, because it is better if scum do not know my role.Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:46 amI don't know guys. I don't love the idea of us lynching Squigs, him shooting wrong, and suddenly we're down 2-3 town members tomorrow.
We have two (maybe three?) scanning abilities of sorts, not sure how Bunny works. Let's vote no-lynch and let them do work. Neph can try to roleblock someone and Jamie can add confusion to the mix by protecting someone else. Plus we have other roles in play yet that can help.
Or we force mass-claim now and then we have most information.
Does ANYONE have abilities that can help during the day?
@xorx - can I add Bozo to the QT and see if he can relay his role the same way you did?
#7148 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 11:38 am
Chaqa is so stupidly obsessed with roles that he must be town.Vecna wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:25 amI mean, he did the same thing to EMC
Its really sort of scummy, but me trying to push that is not going anywhere right now.
Its almost like the information needs to be public so it doesnt look scummy when the scum are aware exactly what and where to hit.
I mean, unless this is some QT ploy ofcourse![]()
#7149 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 11:40 am
How is this shocking? They knew brain was truthful. And they didn't want to risk their NK failing.
#7150 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 11:45 am
If they didn't it would reveal the turning to scum. This seems like a dumb question.xorxes wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:49 amI don't think it has been officially answered, but I would expect they maintain their access since it doesn't say anything to the contrary. And it would be really terrible if in addition to losing their killing and recruiting ability (if that's the case) they also lose their ability to coordinate.
#7151 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 09, 2020 11:51 am
I did not. I figured if I died, you'd know my action, and if not, I could reveal it here if needed.Chaqa wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 1:39 amDid you say that in the QT? I can't recall.
#7152 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 09, 2020 12:01 pm
Why aren't you voting, Foodcoats?foodcoats wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 2:01 amNice.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:22 pmIn addition, if we can make it so that the only votes are Squigs votes, even if that's before everyone has voted, then we should start voting end, to make it harder for Suicide Bomber Squigs to trigger at the last moment.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:20 pmSo, Squigs claims that he is Vengeful Townie with an unusual limitation, that he can only use his vengeful shot to kill someone, if they were on his wagon.
Chaqa proposes a theory that Squigs could be a Suicide Bomber, who plans to suicide moments before EoD, causing us to (mis?)lynch whoever the second-placed wagon is.
I suggest there is one strategy which mitigates against both of these potential problems.
Everyone, with no exceptions at all, should vote for Squigs.
This guy.
#7153 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 09, 2020 12:07 pm
It is possible I saved someone. It's hard to know because if my save is successful, neither I nor my target are told.
#7154 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 09, 2020 12:09 pm
Also Bunny why say "any of the members" when I'm the only one claiming a save?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:07 pmIt is possible I saved someone. It's hard to know because if my save is successful, neither I nor my target are told.
#7155 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 09, 2020 12:14 pm
We are hiding it from the scum.
#7157 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 12:16 pm
This is a good idea, best add for the QT.
#7158 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 09, 2020 12:19 pm
Yes I read it.
#7159 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 09, 2020 12:20 pm
What a fucking weird thing to say.
#7160 Post by foodcoats » Sat May 09, 2020 12:21 pm
Yeah baby.
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