M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

whoops, got my nights confused

To extrapolate off that, This means that Bunny can't be the driver OR the person that carried out the kill. Therefore he could only be the one other scum member, that cuts his likelihood of being scum.

I'm not against bunny not claiming til tomorrow but if he doesnt we lynch him

Also we kill him if his role isn't actually that useful. He's certinaly hyped it up

I did not! My first post about it in my first day here was that I wasn't sure yet how to exploit it.

I then later said I've been nothing but a glorified VT.

I also said I'd potentially be better and worse than summit, weaker in some ways, stronger in others.

[Nephthys]

To extrapolate off that, This means that Bunny can't be the driver OR the person that carried out the kill. Therefore he could only be the one other scum member, that cuts his likelihood of being scum.

I'm not against bunny not claiming til tomorrow but if he doesnt we lynch him

Also we kill him if his role isn't actually that useful. He's certinaly hyped it up

I did not! My first post about it in my first day here was that I wasn't sure yet how to exploit it.

I then later said I've been nothing but a glorified VT.

I also said I'd potentially be better and worse than summit, weaker in some ways, stronger in others.

Then I don't get why you are so reluctant to out.

Do you think you're gonna be NKed above a jailer, a cop or 2 unknown hella useful roles.

Beats me.

Anyway imma let this drop. If its picked up by others then I support but it's not critical. There's enough going on right now

[Nephthys]

Theory

Food is scum JOAT

Bismarck had 6 items so I guess food would have to have one. So far there have been events that have been one-offs each night. Seems weird to say the least.

N1- lightning rod
N2 - ?Strongman
N3 - Killing action
N4 - ???

It's not perfect by any means but The differences is flavour as possibly indicative.

[foodcoats]

@Bunny: By you not claiming your role, I'm assuming it's either because

(1) it is better than Alignment Cop, so if you claim it you are more likely to be killed than summit, or
(2) it can be interfered with by scum, so by not claiming you increase your chances of doing something good with it, or
(3) some other very good reason that I haven't thought about.

If none of those apply, and you claim something really boring like rivera did, you are lynched next.

It is better and worse than alignment cop. There are weaknesses, such that I have been effectively VT so far this game. But if I ever manage circumstances where I get it off, then I have some useful skills on par with alignment cop.

If you think I should claim more, I will. But I am likely to be a target for RB (if they have a RB--do we know one way or the other yet?) or killed. I think summit is probably a higher priority kill though (and our protectors too). So maybe I should claim?

What is better than a Paladin, I wonder...

[Chaqa]

Theory

Food is scum JOAT

Bismarck had 6 items so I guess food would have to have one. So far there have been events that have been one-offs each night. Seems weird to say the least.

N1- lightning rod
N2 - ?Strongman
N3 - Killing action
N4 - ???

It's not perfect by any means but The differences is flavour as possibly indicative.

Hey look it's the theory I've had on and off all game lol

I think food is only scum if xorxes or Jamiet is.

[BunnyGo]

How much power do we even have?

I had EMC all game. Night 1 he lost his action to the lightning rod. Night 2 he followed Flash and that confirmed flash and the jail existing. Night 3 he followed someone and died.

Foodcoats is either a spent lightning rod or maybe scum.

Jamie is using his role very effectively, it just hasn't paid off yet.

Xorxes caught rivera and cleared Bozo (sorta).

Why are you throwing shade on the Sex Cult?

It's hard to say when half the town's communication excludes the other half of the town. So Jamie is using his role effectively, why isn't he having results? Xorxes caught and cleared people BEFORE he joined the cult. That's why the shade...you have a MOLE!! And the rest of us can't help you find it, because we can't see sh*te.

You seem massively worked up for someone that's only just joined the game. It isn't like there's a lack of information in this thread

Just joined? I've put a LOT into this. I wasn't even supposed to be here because I'm busy. But I finished a project at work, so I'm in. And I'm hunting. And it's frustrating when half my supposed teammates are hiding intel from me and the rest of the town. So we're just twiddling our thumbs wondering what it is they know and how we move forwards, and if they are correctly interpreting and sharing information.

[Nephthys]

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TL;DR - bozo and Vecna don't look good, and if one is scum I believe the other might be. In addition, a scum Vecna should set of warning bells on Summit.

Can anyone explain to me how Vecna and bozo can both be town here, it seems massively unlikely

[Nephthys]

Theory

Food is scum JOAT

Bismarck had 6 items so I guess food would have to have one. So far there have been events that have been one-offs each night. Seems weird to say the least.

N1- lightning rod
N2 - ?Strongman
N3 - Killing action
N4 - ???

It's not perfect by any means but The differences is flavour as possibly indicative.

Hey look it's the theory I've had on and off all game lol

I think food is only scum if xorxes or Jamiet is.

Yea I mean it definitely came from you, not tryna take credit, just trying to flesh it out and see what happens

[summit_fever]

Only people possibly being added to the QT are summit and Bozo right now.

I think summit is a mistake. He's not needed there.

I don't understand why not Neph.

Still wabbit, I wanna join the crazy sex cult too!

[Nephthys]

Just joined? I've put a LOT into this. I wasn't even supposed to be here because I'm busy. But I finished a project at work, so I'm in. And I'm hunting. And it's frustrating when half my supposed teammates are hiding intel from me and the rest of the town. So we're just twiddling our thumbs wondering what it is they know and how we move forwards, and if they are correctly interpreting and sharing information.

Sorry, I'm not trying to belittle or undermine what you are doing. I have a lot of respect that you've joined and are contributing meaningfully. I just think there are other things we can focus on, and while annoying, it isn't the end of the world

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny: By you not claiming your role, I'm assuming it's either because

(1) it is better than Alignment Cop, so if you claim it you are more likely to be killed than summit, or
(2) it can be interfered with by scum, so by not claiming you increase your chances of doing something good with it, or
(3) some other very good reason that I haven't thought about.

If none of those apply, and you claim something really boring like rivera did, you are lynched next.

It is better and worse than alignment cop. There are weaknesses, such that I have been effectively VT so far this game. But if I ever manage circumstances where I get it off, then I have some useful skills on par with alignment cop.

If you think I should claim more, I will. But I am likely to be a target for RB (if they have a RB--do we know one way or the other yet?) or killed. I think summit is probably a higher priority kill though (and our protectors too). So maybe I should claim?

What is better than a Paladin, I wonder...

A wizard? Also worse...especially if they keep having their concentration interrupted!

[Nephthys]

@Vecna

Worcej has responded.

As no-one who is playing any attention is surprised about, Rd couldn't convert people I RB. I am a role0blocking action and thats the explicit caveat.

[Chaqa]

Game seems pretty dead. I don't think lynching Squigs is the worst thing, but I really feel like this is one of the few situations where no-lynch would actually be preferable. My thoughts:

We have two roles that are info-gathering. Summit and Xorxes can attempt to get info on Bunny, Temasek, Squigs, and Vecna (some grouping of them). With a bit of luck, we'll have some definitive information.

Neph can jail one of Temasek and Bunny (and maybe Foodcoats as an option). This could prevent the mafia night-kill. Jamiet can use his protective ability to possibly block the kill.

There's at least one or two other roles out there that can be used tonight, I'm sure. Bunny says his power is good, so I'd recommend he isn't the jail target but a scan target.

If the mafia makes a kill, it will likely be xorxes or summit. This isn't amazing for us, BUT it does eliminate the concerns about one of them being deep-cover scum.

Best-case today if we lynch is Squigs is scum.
Medium cases are he is town and he shoots scum, or he is scum and suicides into a town member causing a no lynch.
Worst-case is he is town and shoots a town.

So, if we lynch, we can be anyway from -3T to -1S, -1T tomorrow. But on average we're -2.5T, -0.5S (assuming NK and Squigs is truthful).

If we no-lynch, at worst we're -1T, but sometimes we're -0T. Hell, if someone has some shenanigans to pull, we could even be -1T, -1S.

I just honestly think it's a better plan than lynching Squigs.

##Vote No Lynch

#ComeAtMe

[Chaqa]

Thinking he's suicide bomber is probably tinfoil, but thinking we're likely to lose 3 Townies with this play is not. We don't know enough about the setup and the current numbers to take this risky of a play.

Plus, a Vengeful claimant is super useful at the end of the game. Let's say we get down to a 3 player situation, and the game is still going and Squigs is alive. This would mean it's like 2v1 Town vs. Scum.

Lynch Squigs then. If he flips scum, it's a win. If he flips town, he can shoot someone (likely there will be one clear or almost-clear alive then) and it's a win.

I just think there's too many unknowns and we can't be sure he hits scum.

[summit_fever]

Thinking he's suicide bomber is probably tinfoil, but thinking we're likely to lose 3 Townies with this play is not. We don't know enough about the setup and the current numbers to take this risky of a play.

Plus, a Vengeful claimant is super useful at the end of the game. Let's say we get down to a 3 player situation, and the game is still going and Squigs is alive. This would mean it's like 2v1 Town vs. Scum.

Lynch Squigs then. If he flips scum, it's a win. If he flips town, he can shoot someone (likely there will be one clear or almost-clear alive then) and it's a win.

I just think there's too many unknowns and we can't be sure he hits scum.

I think now is the time to read. I intended to but got drunk with the ol' wife.

We also need Tesa to start saying something.

[Squigs44]

If Ezio were here, he might join you on the no lynch.

[damo666]

At least 2 from Xorxes Neph Squigs Tem (?) Bozo

and

a wrongly assumed town role Vecna/Food/emc

Something like that anyway.

But tbh I'm very confused.

My role thus far has been useless but should change. More than this I decline to say.

Also this makes me want to make damo claim.

Or to further this.

@Damo, when will your role become useful?

It is triggered by outsider action. That is why it is undisclosable.

[BunnyGo]

Also this makes me want to make damo claim.

Or to further this.

@Damo, when will your role become useful?

It is triggered by outsider action. That is why it is undisclosable.

Being scanned by summit didn’t count?

[Vecna]

@Vecna why are you only looking into tinfoils. I don't recall you doing anything much outside of this. Can you provide a read list.

Can you stop tryna think of the weird shit and put some effort into solving

Well, this is role madness dear Nephtys, so even though ive been majorly wrong on the things I have been yelling about, scum is most likely at least doing some shenanigans somewhere

[Vecna]

@Vecna, what were the 120 pages you haven't read?

A lot of stuff in the 200-320 range