M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

yea but now youre just scum

Sure a scum neighbourizer, why not.

scum mastermind manipulator with extra powers added on top of the neighbouriser?

its possible jamiet, dont be ruling it out now.

Remember: CHAQA KNEW THERE WAS MORE 3P OUT THERE

when RHK was flailing around, he suggested it might be a 3P doc and not to lynch him but leash him

Oh...that does make flavor sense if the mastermind is handing out the watches

[Vecna]

@brain - I'm hoping to add you to the QT tomorrow to explain what happened today, but I think we can trust xorxes. The only person in the QT I'm unsure of is food, and if anything he's Inquisitor. But, if he were, xorxes would also likely be, since there seems to be a missing kill from Night 2.

Why would Xorxes even out his own cult leader? Makes no sense

And if that role actually transferred it would be the most op 3rd party by quite a large margin.

It already was pretty pretty out there now

I think we can safely rule that out and stop fearmongering over more inquisitors

[Vecna]

I tried saving summit and was told vecna did not need my services

I don't know what to make of it then.

its a bus driver.
a scum bus driver

redirector more plausible IF you are town

They clearly thought there was a chance you might die from visiting me, so they wouldnt risk visiting me themselves first

[Vecna]

I am now pretty sure that Xorxes is town.

[Vecna]

I am now pretty sure that Xorxes is town.

He must be really good in that orgy you got going...

I need you bunny.

you n me feel like the only sane people left lol

[Vecna]

N2 Flavor
The room is dark. The Mastermind sits in a comfy chair, watching several monitors. He is happy - his little ticket to millions in cash is going well so far. The producers he hired are foaming at the lips with all the drama they are able to clip and make numerous episodes out of already.

On one screen, a woman is seen approaching a man, only to be mowed down by a hail of bullets from an AK-47. On another, he sees a bus driver being chocked out and his neck broken effortlessly. The rest of the monitors show people sheltering in place, scared out of their mind.

He takes a sip from his wine glass. "Good... keep performing well my little minions...

He leans back in the chair and puts his feet up on the table as he watches more.

kgray HAS DIED! SHE WAS THE TOWN MOTION DETECTOR!

You are the Town Motion Detector! Your keen sense of detection has been homed in by all the hours you’ve spent as a TSA agent. During the night, you may ##detect a player by PMing the GM. When you do, you learn if any actions were performed on a player, how many, and what type of actions were – meaning you will be told if it was either a Roleblock-type, Protective-type, Investigative-type, or Killing action. You do not learn who did the actions or if they were successful or not. Your ability is considered an Investigative-type ability.

You win when the Town faction is the last faction left standing.

TheMarche HAS DIED! THEY WERE THE TOWN BUS DRIVER!

You are the Town Bus Driver! You love taking people to and from for whatever reason you want! Each night, you can ##swap two players by PMing the GM. When you do, those players swap places and any action targeting one will target the other. Your ability is considered a Protective-type ability.

You win when the Town faction is the last faction left standing.

Day 3 has begun. You may now post.

so xorx was jailed this night.
and theres a death from bullets and a strangling

Strangling likely was the kill flavour for the inquisitor. The role pm talks about his RIGHTEOUS HAND leading all sinners to the path of redemption

so strangling makes sense there

[Vecna]

Neph, we kinda really need to know what you're role is classified as

Sorry still like 15 pages behind, am a roleblock

Ask the gm if you jailoring someone would cause them to convert if targeted by the inQ.

He'll only answer the question if it comes from you since its your role and not public, following GM convention

[Vecna]

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

Food confirmed he is a roleblocker way back when

Well I'm not sure I buy that.

Sort of interesting he stated that way back when huh?

Hint: its because he was already aware of the inquisitor role after getting recruited.

LR is not a roleblocking action BY ANY LOGIC EVER

[Vecna]

Why wasn't I strictly saved by the roleblocking?

The PM I got N1 said, basically, "you active your ability... and then got thrown in jail!" Jail saved me from everything that would've hit me.

Very interesting. This strongly suggests that Neph is town. Since town actions activate first.

Oh shit that's a really good point.

How is that a good point whatsoever?

You claim your action is a roleblock action.

This proves that is a lie. Or that neph is actually not town. Potentially even both.

If you were both town roleblockers your actions would activate AT THE SAME TIME, meaning you would not be jailkept because he would not be redirected.

so either it means neph is actually SCUM or that YOU are 3p that got recruited and is lying about the RB part because you knew it might come up when the inquisitor would get lynched later on.

nice slipping buddy

[Vecna]

Continuing catchup. Will be very suspect if xorxes does not comment on that inconsistency

[Jamiet99uk]

Very interesting. This strongly suggests that Neph is town. Since town actions activate first.

Oh shit that's a really good point.

How is that a good point whatsoever?

You claim your action is a roleblock action.

This proves that is a lie. Or that neph is actually not town. Potentially even both.

If you were both town roleblockers your actions would activate AT THE SAME TIME, meaning you would not be jailkept because he would not be redirected.

so either it means neph is actually SCUM or that YOU are 3p that got recruited and is lying about the RB part because you knew it might come up when the inquisitor would get lynched later on.

nice slipping buddy

Incorrect, Vecna.

Look:

6. For ability adjudication, the town teams ability will go first, then mafia, followed by 3P. AKA: If a town roleblock targets a mafia roleblock, the town roleblock will go off and the mafia one will not due to being roleblocked

[Vecna]

I wont say what my action was but I think its not lost given I went nowhere

Why did brainbomb say this D2 after my LR action? No one asks brain to claim, and brain says their action was "not lost?" That makes no sense as the doctor role brain later claimed. And brain made a big deal about crumbing doctor... so why crumb doctor but also suggest that you have a one-shot ability?

oh look, another brainbomb slip.

He later clarified stating "I meant whether I could retarget"

but now he's claiming he could retarget regardless?

or did he only find out later?

regardless, this shit was suspect

[xorxes]

obviously?

It seemed likely to me, but also seemed like possibly a NPC (non-player character). They weren't actually *on* the island or have a watch I think. So it wasn't clear to me if they had enough skin in the game to be on scum team.

Mastermind is clearly worcej's role. That's how I've been interpreting it.

[Vecna]

Oh shit that's a really good point.

How is that a good point whatsoever?

You claim your action is a roleblock action.

This proves that is a lie. Or that neph is actually not town. Potentially even both.

If you were both town roleblockers your actions would activate AT THE SAME TIME, meaning you would not be jailkept because he would not be redirected.

so either it means neph is actually SCUM or that YOU are 3p that got recruited and is lying about the RB part because you knew it might come up when the inquisitor would get lynched later on.

nice slipping buddy

Incorrect, Vecna.

Look:

6. For ability adjudication, the town teams ability will go first, then mafia, followed by 3P. AKA: If a town roleblock targets a mafia roleblock, the town roleblock will go off and the mafia one will not due to being roleblocked

Yes jamiet, so if theyre both town with abilities classified as a roleblock?

What does that mean?

That they fire simultaneously. Which was not the case, because nephs action was pulled in.

Ergo, they cannot both be town telling the truth that their abilities are both roleblock actions

[Vecna]

obviously?

It seemed likely to me, but also seemed like possibly a NPC (non-player character). They weren't actually *on* the island or have a watch I think. So it wasn't clear to me if they had enough skin in the game to be on scum team.

Mastermind is clearly worcej's role. That's how I've been interpreting it.

Why would the inquisitor be a nuisance to the GM?

read the rdrivera flip again

[Vecna]

Theres like 120 pages of this game I havent read and I still feel like I pick up on way more than anyone else.

big lol @ the lotta ya really

[Vecna]

Very interesting. This strongly suggests that Neph is town. Since town actions activate first.

food's action clearly went first. He was not roleblocked by Neph.

He means that town PRs did not fire on me before I was jailed by a scum-jailor.

which wouldnt happen regardless, unless there was a town roleblocker, of which foodcoats shouldve gotten a message.

All other abilities would fire after a scum jailkeep as well

[Vecna]

The order of procedure would still be relevant. I would've been tracked, watched, etc. if I hadn't been initially jailed.

Falsehood

[Vecna]

The order of procedure would still be relevant. I would've been tracked, watched, etc. if I hadn't been initially jailed.

Your "roleblock" (i.e. interference with everybody else's actions) occured before Nephs roleblock. Everything else (the protection from everyone else's actions) was Neph's action, which came after your roleblock.

If his roleblock had come first you would not have had any effect on anyone.

Well, at least xorxes did comment on the inconsistency

[Vecna]

Why did brainbomb say this D2 after my LR action? No one asks brain to claim, and brain says their action was "not lost?" That makes no sense as the doctor role brain later claimed. And brain made a big deal about crumbing doctor... so why crumb doctor but also suggest that you have a one-shot ability?

He said he meant he could save the same person again the next day because that one didn't count. He supposedly had not realized at that point that he did not have that restriction anyway. He clarified all that before RHK's role was revealed, I believe, but I have not checked.

Fair enough. He doesn't, but, his claim still reads pretty naturally... it does not have the tinfoil elements I had absorbed from listening to Vecna for too long...

you were trying to distract from the xorxes guilty on rdrivera lol.

it was so obvious