M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

Yes, LR is a roleblocker and the action that saved the original target is the roleblocking action (it affected rivera). So I think we're fine there.

But I'm not sure if the *action* that saved LR was a roleblocking action, even if Neph has a roleblocking type ability. He has a protective ability as well, which is the one that saved foodcoats. It's quite confusing.

The number of kills tonight should be informative anyway.

Not quite. The 3P role said he could choose not to kill. In addition to any saves that may occur.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sure, nobody listen to me.

[damo666]

Sure, nobody listen to me.

Whassup?

[brainbomb]

Did anyone holster a night action N1, but still got told they went to foodcoats

[brainbomb]

nvm its irrelevant

[foodcoats]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

Why wasn't I strictly saved by the roleblocking?

The PM I got N1 said, basically, "you active your ability... and then got thrown in jail!" Jail saved me from everything that would've hit me.

[foodcoats]

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

Yes, LR is a roleblocker and the action that saved the original target is the roleblocking action (it affected rivera). So I think we're fine there.

But I'm not sure if the *action* that saved LR was a roleblocking action, even if Neph has a roleblocking type ability. He has a protective ability as well, which is the one that saved foodcoats. It's quite confusing.

The number of kills tonight should be informative anyway.

OK so according to this the original target is OK but there's a doubt against food.

I like how damo isn't contributing anything, but feels like stopping in to suggest I'm cult.

Lynch damo tomorrow.

[BunnyGo]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

Why wasn't I strictly saved by the roleblocking?

The PM I got N1 said, basically, "you active your ability... and then got thrown in jail!" Jail saved me from everything that would've hit me.

Very interesting. This strongly suggests that Neph is town. Since town actions activate first.

[foodcoats]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

Why wasn't I strictly saved by the roleblocking?

The PM I got N1 said, basically, "you active your ability... and then got thrown in jail!" Jail saved me from everything that would've hit me.

Very interesting. This strongly suggests that Neph is town. Since town actions activate first.

Oh shit that's a really good point.

[foodcoats]

You just earned yourself a gold star, Bunny. I was worried with all your vapid commentary today that you were actually scum, even though I initially read darg as null and you seemed town earlier.

[foodcoats]

I wont say what my action was but I think its not lost given I went nowhere

Why did brainbomb say this D2 after my LR action? No one asks brain to claim, and brain says their action was "not lost?" That makes no sense as the doctor role brain later claimed. And brain made a big deal about crumbing doctor... so why crumb doctor but also suggest that you have a one-shot ability?

[xorxes]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

Why wasn't I strictly saved by the roleblocking?

The PM I got N1 said, basically, "you active your ability... and then got thrown in jail!" Jail saved me from everything that would've hit me.

I mean you would have been roleblocked if your action didn't have priority, but the effect the jail had on you was protection. But I don't know if worcej would consider that it was a roleblocking action that saved you. It was not a roleblocking action on the attacker. To me it is a bit confusing what rivera's role refers to.

[xorxes]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

Why wasn't I strictly saved by the roleblocking?

The PM I got N1 said, basically, "you active your ability... and then got thrown in jail!" Jail saved me from everything that would've hit me.

Very interesting. This strongly suggests that Neph is town. Since town actions activate first.

food's action clearly went first. He was not roleblocked by Neph.

[foodcoats]

Why wasn't I strictly saved by the roleblocking?

The PM I got N1 said, basically, "you active your ability... and then got thrown in jail!" Jail saved me from everything that would've hit me.

Very interesting. This strongly suggests that Neph is town. Since town actions activate first.

food's action clearly went first. He was not roleblocked by Neph.

He means that town PRs did not fire on me before I was jailed by a scum-jailor.

[foodcoats]

The order of procedure would still be relevant. I would've been tracked, watched, etc. if I hadn't been initially jailed.

[xorxes]

I wont say what my action was but I think its not lost given I went nowhere

Why did brainbomb say this D2 after my LR action? No one asks brain to claim, and brain says their action was "not lost?" That makes no sense as the doctor role brain later claimed. And brain made a big deal about crumbing doctor... so why crumb doctor but also suggest that you have a one-shot ability?

He said he meant he could save the same person again the next day because that one didn't count. He supposedly had not realized at that point that he did not have that restriction anyway. He clarified all that before RHK's role was revealed, I believe, but I have not checked.

[xorxes]

The order of procedure would still be relevant. I would've been tracked, watched, etc. if I hadn't been initially jailed.

Your "roleblock" (i.e. interference with everybody else's actions) occured before Nephs roleblock. Everything else (the protection from everyone else's actions) was Neph's action, which came after your roleblock.

If his roleblock had come first you would not have had any effect on anyone.

[brainbomb]

I wont say what my action was but I think its not lost given I went nowhere

Why did brainbomb say this D2 after my LR action? No one asks brain to claim, and brain says their action was "not lost?" That makes no sense as the doctor role brain later claimed. And brain made a big deal about crumbing doctor... so why crumb doctor but also suggest that you have a one-shot ability?

because I wanted maf to think my ability was a 1 shot so I wouldnt be nightkilled

[foodcoats]

I wont say what my action was but I think its not lost given I went nowhere

Why did brainbomb say this D2 after my LR action? No one asks brain to claim, and brain says their action was "not lost?" That makes no sense as the doctor role brain later claimed. And brain made a big deal about crumbing doctor... so why crumb doctor but also suggest that you have a one-shot ability?

He said he meant he could save the same person again the next day because that one didn't count. He supposedly had not realized at that point that he did not have that restriction anyway. He clarified all that before RHK's role was revealed, I believe, but I have not checked.

Fair enough. He doesn't, but, his claim still reads pretty naturally... it does not have the tinfoil elements I had absorbed from listening to Vecna for too long...

[brainbomb]

I wont say what my action was but I think its not lost given I went nowhere

Why did brainbomb say this D2 after my LR action? No one asks brain to claim, and brain says their action was "not lost?" That makes no sense as the doctor role brain later claimed. And brain made a big deal about crumbing doctor... so why crumb doctor but also suggest that you have a one-shot ability?

He said he meant he could save the same person again the next day because that one didn't count. He supposedly had not realized at that point that he did not have that restriction anyway. He clarified all that before RHK's role was revealed, I believe, but I have not checked.

as well as that I wasnt aware of consevutive rules too